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Catholidox sexism strikes again. https://i.imgur.com/Cpd1pRx.mp4
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Aug 28, 2018 13:51
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pidan posted:Silly hat no A sister of the order of seagulls?
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Aug 28, 2018 14:19
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A fun thing I just learned: In traditional Lakota culture, a woman could divorce her husband at any time and for any reason. This was most commonly done by the wife dumping the husband's belongings outside their tipi to show he ain't welcome in the house any more.
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Aug 28, 2018 15:15
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quote:Say a prayer for John McCain http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/08/27/elegy-for-john-mccain/
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Aug 28, 2018 15:44
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slatestarcodex is a racist. no links to racist sites here.
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Aug 28, 2018 15:46
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My Dad died peacefully this morning. Thank you all for your prayers, and continue them for my mother and our family.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:54
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Deteriorata posted:My Dad died peacefully this morning. Thank you all for your prayers, and continue them for my mother and our family.
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So I was reading this article on the Vigano letter controversy and something leapt out at me.The NY Times posted:Two weeks ago, Archbishop Viganò privately shared his plan to speak out with an influential American friend: Timothy Busch, a wealthy, conservative Catholic lawyer on the board of governors of the media network in which Archbishop Viganò ultimately revealed his letter. Yes, yes...Pope Benedict got on the horn to Irondale, Alabama to let EWTN know Vigano was telling the truth  I can't imagine a scenario where Benedict betrays his oath of fidelity to Francis just to help out the American Catholic right.
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Pershing posted:So I was reading this article on the Vigano letter controversy and something leapt out at me. benedict also, afaik, does not make media appearences any more edit: at least he speaks english, i didn't know he did HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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Aug 28, 2018 17:32
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HEY GUNS posted:slatestarcodex is a racist. no links to racist sites here. He's an old friend of mine. Source cited for proof of him being a racist?
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Aug 28, 2018 18:28
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Deteriorata posted:My Dad died peacefully this morning. Thank you all for your prayers, and continue them for my mother and our family. My condolences. 
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Aug 28, 2018 18:29
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CountFosco posted:He's an old friend of mine. Source cited for proof of him being a racist? deliberately disingenuous reasoning and waffle like this: http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/06/21/against-murderism/ butter wouldn't melt in his mouth edit: i have read the bell curve in its entirety. even if the authors' argument were true, most of their footnotes link either to things they themselves wrote or things by the same think tank as the one that funded them. Even if I were a racist I'd think it was trash because of those footnotes. It is propaganda disguised as a book. You can't simply "encounter" this book. he is not only a racist he is using a great deal of waffle to make racists look like the aggrieved party. "why can't you just be logical about this!" he cries. "why are you all so angry about this!" He is also far too close to the Dark Enlightenment people for my taste, and has gradually been persuaded by them. But among other beliefs you want to make it more difficult for people to travel so human groups can preserve their "diversity," so I suppose you do not see the warning signs here. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 28, 2018 18:41
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CountFosco knows a dude who might be intolerant? Colour me surprised 
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Aug 28, 2018 19:01
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what the gently caress is with psychologists and being neck deep in dunning-kruger
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Aug 28, 2018 19:02
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The Phlegmatist posted:what the gently caress is with psychologists and being neck deep in dunning-kruger
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Pellisworth posted:A fun thing I just learned: I'm assuming you learned this first hand the hard way. Deteriorata posted:My Dad died peacefully this morning. Thank you all for your prayers, and continue them for my mother and our family. Requiescat in Pace.
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Aug 28, 2018 19:27
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some crazy germans made a trading card game about saints: http://saintscardgame.de/
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Aug 28, 2018 21:54
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Apparently this is a Collectable Card Game about Catholic saints: http://saintscardgame.de/ I don't speak German or I'd buy it. E;FB
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Aug 28, 2018 21:54
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Lutha Mahtin posted:. this was a major reason why slavery was abolished You realize, of course, that in the United States, at least, slavery was abolished by the Civil War. The love that Christians had for their neighbors didn't stop them from enslaving their neighbors in the first place, nor from slaughtering their neighbors over questions of secession and slavery.
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Aug 28, 2018 21:57
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Deteriorata posted:My Dad died peacefully this morning. Thank you all for your prayers, and continue them for my mother and our family. Praying for you and your family.
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Aug 28, 2018 22:02
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Epicurius posted:You realize, of course, that in the United States, at least, slavery was abolished by the Civil War. The love that Christians had for their neighbors didn't stop them from enslaving their neighbors in the first place, nor from slaughtering their neighbors over questions of secession and slavery. maybe you're not familiar but it is a true fact that the abolition movement was very much intertwined with churches and religious people. saying "oh but slave owners quoted the Bible too" does not detract from this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVTBcFV5lN0
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pidan fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Aug 28, 2018 22:19
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Lutha Mahtin posted:maybe you're not familiar but it is a true fact that the abolition movement was very much intertwined with churches and religious people. saying "oh but slave owners quoted the Bible too" does not detract from this I'm very familiar, trust me. Ibe read and studied the abolitionists. I don't disagree that many people's abolitionism was motivated by their religious beliefs and feelings. But that also doesn't detract from the fact that "slave owners quoted the bible too". It was Christians who enslaved people and Christians who fought to make them free (and Christians who were enslaved). As much as Christianity could be used as a voice for liberation, it could be used for repression too.
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Aug 28, 2018 22:24
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HEY GUNS posted:deliberately disingenuous reasoning and waffle like this: He literally wrote the anti-reactionary FAQ. But I guess the fact that some DE types frequent the comment section of his blog, that there is enough to brand the scarlet-R on his chest. It's been a while since I've read that blog entry. I don't remember ever reading one of his articles and thinking, boy, Scott's really taken a racist turn. I most associate him with the lesswrong/rationalist community, and the rationalwiki page has one of the best compilation of anti-racist arguments on the web (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism) so I retain my skepticism that it's appropriate to tag him with the term racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKzMShLaB6w quote:CountFosco knows a dude who might be intolerant? Colour me surprised Gee buddy, love you too.
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Aug 28, 2018 23:12
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lesswrong is an awful culty community Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 28, 2018 23:39
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I'm going to try to take a little break from this thread. Feel free to pray for me to have more acceptable political views and associations, I won't mind. If you're feeling more charitable, a prayer just for my general well-being would be welcome as well, but I understand if you all feel somewhat hesitant to do that.
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Aug 28, 2018 23:58
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how bout i pray for you to knock it off with the passive-aggressive condescension
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Aug 29, 2018 00:28
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Deteriorata posted:My Dad died peacefully this morning. Thank you all for your prayers, and continue them for my mother and our family. I'm very sorry for your loss, and my best wishes and prayers are yours, of course.
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Aug 29, 2018 00:50
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dat bear
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CountFosco you are way too close to all sorts of sketchy-rear end poo poo and it may be time to look within as to loving why HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 29, 2018 01:46
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CountFosco posted:I'm going to try to take a little break from this thread. Feel free to pray for me to have more acceptable political views and associations, I won't mind. If you're feeling more charitable, a prayer just for my general well-being would be welcome as well, but I understand if you all feel somewhat hesitant to do that. Someone said ONE thing about you and this is your reaction?
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Aug 29, 2018 02:20
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lesswrong is bad? I used to be into that site and its weird thought experiments when I was in a transhumanist phase like 10 years ago. I don't remember anything problematic happening at that time...
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Aug 29, 2018 03:21
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yeah, it's really bad. in the past year or two a number of women have come forward detailing very gross sexism and abuse claims against prominent people in that community, as well as against rando dudes in that community one must also come to terms with the fact that this is a community which believes that theoretical computer science wankery research is more important than feeding people who are starving now. lesswrong types are obsessed with ideas like Roko's Basilisk, which is effectively "Cthulhu, but for artificial intelligence wankers". These people believe that, instead of feeding poor people or providing tools to reduce malaria outbreaks, we should pour millions of dollars into researching the theoretical idea that there might be in the future an artificial intelligence program which takes over all computers jn the world and tortures all humans who didn't help it achieve sentience. I'm not kidding. this is an actual thing they believe and which they have used to secure millions of dollars in tax-deductible donations
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Aug 29, 2018 06:34
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pidan fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Aug 29, 2018 06:49
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i would slightly disagree there pidan. while lesswrong might not be "filled" with bigots, some of their fundamental cultural practices allow such people to survive and flourish within the community
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Aug 29, 2018 06:55
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CountFosco posted:He literally wrote the anti-reactionary FAQ. But I guess the fact that some DE types frequent the comment section of his blog, that there is enough to brand the scarlet-R on his chest. You're the one with the religion that says you have to love your enemies, not me. Though, to be charitable, I've mostly sort of ignored you since you told me that 1900s christian authors could prove I was summoning demons in my 4000+ years old tradition 
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Lutha Mahtin posted:yeah, it's really bad. in the past year or two a number of women have come forward detailing very gross sexism and abuse claims against prominent people in that community, as well as against rando dudes in that community Yeah I remember some of that stuff from way back when. At the time it was just a smallish blog with weird thought experiments. I used to be super into reading about that stuff but got out of it for various reasons, I think one of the things that made me move on was hearing that some anarchists believed if a technological singularity was imminent it must be prevented by any means possible. I was so shocked, why would anyone want to prevent a technological utopia? Then I realized the implication was it would probably only be a utopia for the 1% and the rest of us would be worse off than we are now.
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Slimy Hog posted:Someone said ONE thing about you and this is your reaction? the last time he called me a communist, so in context this is progress edit: it's also telling that he himself appears to be some sort of anti-technologist but he hangs out with techno-futurists. if you want to make it harder to travel so individual human cultures stop changing, why hang out with people who yearn for the singularity? if you don't believe in scientism because it isn't spiritual enough, why hang out with the bell curve people? only commonality between such disparate belief systems is the racism-adjacence. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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