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Data Graham posted:Would I (as another hasn't-kept-up-with-SP-lately) be wrong in assuming PC Principal is a tiresome pink-haired horn-rimmed fussbudget who talks about snowflakes and safe spaces with all the subtlety of the principal in Cobra Kai? He's a frat guy
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Data Graham posted:Would I (as another hasn't-kept-up-with-SP-lately) be wrong in assuming PC Principal is a tiresome pink-haired horn-rimmed fussbudget who talks about snowflakes and safe spaces with all the subtlety of the principal in Cobra Kai? You actually would be, he’s portrayed as a stereotypical frat bro who’s in your face and aggressive about social issues. At first I thought he was meant to lampoon mid-20s white guys that pay lip service to stuff like that without actually caring, but they never actually portray him as anything less than genuine.
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houstonguy posted:You actually would be, he’s portrayed as a stereotypical frat bro who’s in your face and aggressive about social issues. At first I thought he was meant to lampoon mid-20s white guys that pay lip service to stuff like that without actually caring, but they never actually portray him as anything less than genuine. It's an interesting thing. They also end one of the seasons with a big speech that's like "Yeah, South Park does need to change in that direction". But the last few seasons still haven't been very good.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:45
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PC Principal owns
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PancakeTransmission posted:I was barely out of my teens when this (S14E18) first aired. To see the show I grew up with, just shoot itself in the head... Dark times man. im sorry you had to see that
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Aug 28, 2018 22:06
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PostNouveau posted:It's an interesting thing. They also end one of the seasons with a big speech that's like "Yeah, South Park does need to change in that direction". Didn't help when they put all their story eggs in the Hilary wins basket.
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Babe Magnet posted:PC Principal owns I'm the handwringing about him, an adult, bullying a child (the child being cartman lmfao)
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Aug 28, 2018 22:20
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Wait then what happened to principal Victoria with the very specific accent
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Aug 29, 2018 06:58
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I found an animation mistake in The Simpsons the head of the beer is the same color as the beer
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Aug 29, 2018 10:49
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The evidence is incontrovertible. That is indeed the lowest point of The Simpsons.
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Aug 29, 2018 12:00
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Why are people discussing SP? Homer vs NYC was lovely.
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Aug 29, 2018 14:16
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SirPablo posted:Why are people discussing SP? they'd put this guy in tower 1
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snack eater posted:they'd put this guy in tower 1 oh, and he definitely drinks Mountain Dew
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Aug 29, 2018 14:40
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I literally work in the WTC, and every morning when I pass the halal carts there I have to suppress a smirk
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In 100% of cases where someone asks me to pick one of two equally bad options, I always say “ugh... God... crab juice please.”
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SirPablo posted:Why are people discussing SP? Also the "almost there" gag with the stick when he wants pizza and the whole "bathroom out of order" joke. Actually, now that I think about it, the most memorable jokes (at least, to me) from that episode are all in the span of like a minute. The family touring NYC and the other stuff with Homer aren't as amazing as those 3 gags in the middle of the show. JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Aug 29, 2018 15:08
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SirPablo posted:Why are people discussing SP? Because PC Principal, even just as a concept, is still way more interesting than any character The Simpsons has introduced in the past 25 years. I know South Park discussion isn’t really the point of this thread but it drive home just how stale The Simpsons is. South Park is a pretty bad show nowadays and it was never anywhere close to how great The Simpsons was at its peak, but it’s at least somewhat culturally relevant and like a tenth as stale as The Simpsons is. But to go back to The Simpsons, when was the last time the show was able to introduce a new, interesting, reoccurring character? I think part of the reason the show is so awful now is due to the fact that they’ve squeezed every drop of blood possible out of the stones that are parodies of fast food mascots and characters from 50 year old movies.
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South Park is also a show where a “bad” episode still has enough room to be funnier than 90% of available content, and while there are totally unwatchable episodes, those all come down to personal preference. I always skip Oprah’s Minge, The Snuke, and Queef Sisters because I, at 30, just have to own that I don’t think vaginas are funny. I think they can be cute, and pretty, and fun, and beautiful, but I’ve never laughed at one... wait that’s a lie once I was about to gently caress my friend and right before she took her underwear off she said “hey one of my labia hangs lower than the other and I call her the Underachiever.” and we giggle about for a few minutes then bone.
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Bust Rodd posted:South Park is also a show where a “bad” episode still has enough room to be funnier than 90% of available content, and while there are totally unwatchable episodes, those all come down to personal preference. The Oprah one was just super weak because it was basically a clip show. Let's put a freeze-frame of her crotch on screen for 15 minutes while we do our bad attempt at a British accent because Guy Ritchie is inherently funny or something
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Tree Goat posted:there's lots of scenarios where they cancel the simpsons, it's very easy to envision:
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houstonguy posted:But to go back to The Simpsons, when was the last time the show was able to introduce a new, interesting, reoccurring character? Gil? Like ... 18 years ago
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Are there newer reoccurring characters?
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SeANMcBAY posted:Are there newer reoccurring characters? Cookie Kwan #1 on the west side
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snack eater posted:Cookie Kwan #1 on the west side Isn’t she just as old as Gil? Didn’t they debut in the same episode?
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snack eater posted:Cookie Kwan #1 on the west side Introduced, I think, in the same episode as Gil almost 20 years ago. Also, she barely recurs.
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n-n-no Gil and Cookie Kwan are new characters I'm not old I'm not old
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Aug 29, 2018 18:06
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JazzFlight posted:The Mountain Dew / Crab Juice joke was a great burn, come on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YymW49FMYrA
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Aug 29, 2018 18:08
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Lol chuds
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Lisa holding up that flyer creeps me out every time.
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City of New York vs. Homer Simpson was the first episode that stood out to me back then as being more mean spirited, but its actually still a really good episode.
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Data Graham posted:Lol chuds Pimps and Chuds
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Iron Crowned posted:Pimps and Chuds Formerly Chuck's
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:City of New York vs. Homer Simpson was the first episode that stood out to me back then as being more mean spirited, but its actually still a really good episode. I was reading Mike Reiss' book not too long ago and when he came back to the show around this time he said the first thing that stuck out to him was how different the writing process was compared to the early 90s. When he started the writing room was basically like a college dorm where everyone got along and when he came back it felt like a cliquey high school with gossip and "enemies" that leaked into the show. The one joke he cited as really bothering him was when Kirk Van Houten's arm gets cut off by piano wire from that season ("I told that idiot to cut my sandwich...ouch"). So, yeah, it wasn't just you that thought the show was getting more mean-spirited with its jokes. It's why I had to stop watching because feeling dirty after watching The Simpsons is not a good feeling.
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Justin Godscock posted:I was reading Mike Reiss' book not too long ago and when he came back to the show around this time he said the first thing that stuck out to him was how different the writing process was compared to the early 90s. When he started the writing room was basically like a college dorm where everyone got along and when he came back it felt like a cliquey high school with gossip and "enemies" that leaked into the show. The one joke he cited as really bothering him was when Kirk Van Houten's arm gets cut off by piano wire from that season ("I told that idiot to cut my sandwich...ouch"). That joke always stuck out so hard to me. Like it really comes off something modern Family Guy would do but with blood and guts and Peter screaming for a full minute. It could have been worse earlier, but I remember when I stopped finding the Simpsons funny was the episode where Homer and Ned go to Vegas. The punch-up was really obvious even to a kid (Modern Simpsons feels like at least 80% punch-up with plots designed around a few gags they want to do), and it was around the time network TV started really getting back into thinking of contrived plots of characters dying or doing scandalous things so you'd see the same goddamned commercial over and over for a whole week teasing the episode. It was basically '90s clickbait, with constant commercials showing "THIS CHARACTER DIES?!" or "HOMER MARRIES SOMEONE ELSE?!" Plan Z fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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On an early seasons rewatch, I decided to wade into Season 10 a bit and stopped right at the episode where Homer finds out his middle name and becomes a hippie. That was the worst Homer had ever acted on the show so far, just complete rear end in a top hat to everyone. I also think an earlier ep where Homer gets drunk and stares at Maude's cleavage, then tries to get out of marriage counseling and barely apologizes to Marge is pretty bad, as well.
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JazzFlight posted:On an early seasons rewatch, I decided to wade into Season 10 a bit and stopped right at the episode where Homer finds out his middle name and becomes a hippie. That was the worst Homer had ever acted on the show so far, just complete rear end in a top hat to everyone. Yeah the first seasons had some stinkers. The one where Marge freaks out and almost divorces Homer over dancing with a belly dancer fully clothed and the town treating it like the sexiest thing ever comes to mind.
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I have to chuckle when flipping through the seasons on FXXXXX when seeing where I stop recognizing any episode in the list. Season 13/14 is when I start losing it and can only really pick out one or two from the list, but season 15 is definitely where I can look at the list of thumbnails and not recognize any of it. That was 15 years ago 
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Plan Z posted:The one where Marge freaks out and almost divorces Homer over dancing with a belly dancer fully clothed and the town treating it like the sexiest thing ever comes to mind. Not what they had in mind, but it's really not that uncommon now.
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Plan Z posted:Yeah the first seasons had some stinkers. The one where Marge freaks out and almost divorces Homer over dancing with a belly dancer fully clothed and the town treating it like the sexiest thing ever comes to mind. If the Simpsons had ended after 10 seasons, that would be a contender for lowest point of the Simpsons
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I think there I general consensus that Stupid Homer becoming Jerk Homer was a tipping point. So when did Jerk Homer first appear? Also, I'm rewatching Homer v NYC. I think what bothers me is the dimension of sober Barney in the beginning. Feels forced.
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