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LOCUST FART HELL posted:He has a history of being lovely to LGBTQ people (especially trans-women, whom he blocks en-masse) and did and said nothing about his rapist pal Chris Hardwick, and still hasn't cut ties with him. All while presenting himself as a reasonable progressive liberal who cares about minorities etc. He's also incredibly centrist and think Berniebros cost Hillary the election and will loudly state that to anyone that listens. He's like if the liberal nerd side of reddit was a person. Wow, I didn't know any of this. That sucks, I kinda liked him.
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:Wow, I didn't know any of this. That sucks, I kinda liked him. Never meet your
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Garrand posted:I still don't understand why jokes for literal middle schoolers are somehow some amazing ownage of people. Directness is in, pretension is out. Get with the times Pal.
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:He has a history of being lovely to LGBTQ people (especially trans-women, whom he blocks en-masse) and did and said nothing about his rapist pal Chris Hardwick, and still hasn't cut ties with him. All while presenting himself as a reasonable progressive liberal who cares about minorities etc. He's also incredibly centrist and think Berniebros cost Hillary the election and will loudly state that to anyone that listens. He's like if the liberal nerd side of reddit was a person. For how much material there is of people consistently ridiculing him with minor jabs like that I thought it was something inconsequential that people could still poke fun at. Like he wears a bowtie or something. This is so odd to hear, considering that everyone seems pretty restained when making fun of him.
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Aug 30, 2018 17:53
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Aug 30, 2018 17:53
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I don’t care what anyone says, BOFA is always great.
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:He has a history of being lovely to LGBTQ people (especially trans-women, whom he blocks en-masse) and did and said nothing about his rapist pal Chris Hardwick, and still hasn't cut ties with him. All while presenting himself as a reasonable progressive liberal who cares about minorities etc. He's also incredibly centrist and think Berniebros cost Hillary the election and will loudly state that to anyone that listens. He's like if the liberal nerd side of reddit was a person. Lol I went to unfollow him on Twitter because I didn't know about this before and he's not turning up in my search. I guess he must have blocked me (a trans person).
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Aug 30, 2018 18:24
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RareAcumen posted:For how much material there is of people consistently ridiculing him with minor jabs like that I thought it was something inconsequential that people could still poke fun at. Like he wears a bowtie or something. This is so odd to hear, considering that everyone seems pretty restained when making fun of him. That's because no matter how terrible a person he may be, he's still Wil Wheaton. Mild derision is the most appropriate amount of energy to direct towards him.
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Aug 30, 2018 18:35
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Woebin posted:Lol I went to unfollow him on Twitter because I didn't know about this before and he's not turning up in my search. I guess he must have blocked me (a trans person). As a gross Twitter user, I relish the huge turn of opinion/perception of trans people that is happening. Every idiot TERF is cratered immediately by the trans supporting community. It's not yet great BUT I'm shocked to see the momentum. Hell, even in my line of work (which is largely conservative people) the support for trans people and their rights is surprisingly large.
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Aug 30, 2018 18:43
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Aug 30, 2018 18:50
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Gay Horney posted:Imagine breathlessly rushing to block some one on Twitter because you read a post on a forum How about an actual article about it? https://medium.com/@AmberEnderton/wil-wheaton-has-a-listening-problem-accdf6277b88
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Aug 30, 2018 18:54
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Not to derail this even further, but Hardwick was found innocent by both the networks he represents, so calling him a rapist just because you choose to believe one side over another a bit extreme..
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Aug 30, 2018 18:59
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:Wow, I didn't know any of this. That sucks, I kinda liked him. Probably because it's based entirely on the raging of people on twitter, and everyone loves piling on even if they never actually see any of this poo poo the person in question supposedly did. Entirely related: Gay Horney posted:Imagine breathlessly rushing to block some one on Twitter because you read a post on a forum I read what he wrote about the whole incident, and ignoring anything about who did what to who when (I don't have the energy to defend a guy I don't even know to other people I don't know)....dude's spot on about how utterly toxic these sites are now. How many people in just this thread are nodding along to "gently caress Wil Wheaton" who didn't even know about any of this poo poo. I've been banned from so many sphynx cat groups on facebook for "being mean" by doing things like responding to "Omg something is wrong with my cat what should I do" with "stop asking for medical advice on facebook and take her to the vet". I'm pretty sure it's impossible to interact with anyone on social media at this point and not kick off a lynch mob that wants to drive you off of it, no matter how minor (or imaginary) your crimes. It's a lot easier to believe the horrible poo poo you read about someone and write them off as a terrible person than it is to give them the benefit of the doubt. All that said, burn it all to the ground and start over. Or don't, I'm totally fine with twitter just not existing anymore.
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New Leaf posted:Not to derail this even further, but Hardwick was found innocent by both the networks he represents, so calling him a rapist just because you choose to believe one side over another a bit extreme.. You mean to say a law firm that represents Hardwick's in-laws was asked to investigate, they asked Chloe Dykstra to participate, she declined because she said it wasn't her intention to ruin his career, and they decided that was case closed...
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:He has a history of being lovely to LGBTQ people (especially trans-women, whom he blocks en-masse) and did and said nothing about his rapist pal Chris Hardwick, and still hasn't cut ties with him. All while presenting himself as a reasonable progressive liberal who cares about minorities etc. He's also incredibly centrist and think Berniebros cost Hillary the election and will loudly state that to anyone that listens. He's like if the liberal nerd side of reddit was a person. Wow, I had no idea he was such a raging jackass.
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New Leaf posted:Not to derail this even further, but Hardwick was found innocent by both the networks he represents, so calling him a rapist just because you choose to believe one side over another a bit extreme.. But what about the rich straight white men who rape women, forum's user New Leaf asks? Who will speak for them? Won't someone please stand up against this injustice? A man has been inconvenienced, this cannot be allowed to stand!
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No it's okay, you see the businesses that have a vested commercial interest in him being innocent conducted their own investigation and found no evidence of him being an abuser and torturer of women!
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Aug 30, 2018 19:11
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biracial bear for uncut posted:How about an actual article about it? His crimes as I read them are: accidentally promoted a terf-block list that he then apologized for Reported someone for being BOFA pranked (which admittedly is a lame thing to do) and that someone happened to be trans, so he's a transphobe quote:This is hardly his only blunder involving trans issues. More recently, he was a celebrity endorsement for Brianna Wu, a candidate who among other things notoriously donated to the North Carolina GOP after they passed a bill meant to purge trans people from public spaces.
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Bombadilillo posted:
Imagine twitter but not run by nazi and with better moderation and community guidelines / TOS that gets enforced.
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No joke, until a couple posts later when someone explained what Mastodon (the web site) was, I was briefly worried that something happened to Mastodon (the band). I'm old and sometimes technology confuses me and I care less and less every year.
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zoux posted:His crimes as I read them are: Pretty much. I love how this "article" (someone's rant) even describes exactly what happened, which is incredibly clear was due to the idiotic "prank" and not because the user was trans in any way.....and then acknowledges the obvious problem here with, "Why does this user being trans matter?" Because he made a mistake ages ago, which he apologized for and rectified as far as he was able to, if he does ANYTHING and the other party happens to be trans he's a monster? You read anything else he writes, and it's incredibly clear he's on the right side of poo poo. But that requires effort and thought.
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Aug 30, 2018 19:21
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biracial bear for uncut posted:How about an actual article about it? quote:This is hardly his only blunder involving trans issues. More recently, he was a celebrity endorsement for Brianna Wu, a candidate who among other things notoriously donated to the North Carolina GOP after they passed a bill meant to purge trans people from public spaces. Since when was Brianna Wu of all people donating to the GOP for anti-trans bills? e;fb
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Pretty much. I love how this "article" (someone's rant) even describes exactly what happened, which is incredibly clear was due to the idiotic "prank" and not because the user was trans in any way.....and then acknowledges the obvious problem here with, "Why does this user being trans matter?" Because he made a mistake ages ago, which he apologized for and rectified as far as he was able to, if he does ANYTHING and the other party happens to be trans he's a monster? Most of the complaints boil down to the whole "Silence is complicity" thing. If you aren't regularly saying "gently caress those awful people that do those awful things" as a person with (even as small as Wheaton's) sphere of influence, you're probably supporting them.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Most of the complaints boil down to the whole "Silence is complicity" thing. If you aren't regularly saying "gently caress those awful people that do those awful things" as a person with (even as small as Wheaton's) sphere of influence, you're probably supporting them. Which gets down to the heart of the biggest problem with social media in general as a court of public opinion: The only emotion allowed is outrage. You're either yelling about the correct things, or you're the enemy.
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chitoryu12 posted:Since when was Brianna Wu of all people donating to the GOP for anti-trans bills? Donating any money to them at all is donating to support those bills, is the basic logic of it, since the GOP's anti-trans legislation around the country is a pretty big loving deal and a main issue of concern. She did end up withdrawing her donations later, but the Internet never forgets when you gently caress up.
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I feel like people are missing the really important thing from this discussion;BaronVonVaderham posted:I've been banned from so many sphynx cat groups on facebook
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:You mean to say a law firm that represents Hardwick's in-laws was asked to investigate, they asked Chloe Dykstra to participate, she declined because she said it wasn't her intention to ruin his career, and they decided that was case closed... If you're not going to follow it up, why say anything at all? I don't understand "Not to ruin any lives or anything, but Person X is a rapist and abuser. Please don't ask me about it, and please enjoy your day!"
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Donating any money to them at all is donating to support those bills, is the basic logic of it, since the GOP's anti-trans legislation around the country is a pretty big loving deal and a main issue of concern. I just don't get why she would donate to the GOP at all. She's running on the Democrat ticket and is a vocal anti-Trump feminist. It just doesn't make sense as a donation at all. On the other hand, she tried to raise awareness of her campaign through Twitch streaming and said that we can't colonize the moon because it'll let people drop moon rocks on Earth like nukes, so I don't think she's the brightest bulb. The General posted:If you're not going to follow it up, why say anything at all? I don't understand "Not to ruin any lives or anything, but Person X is a rapist and abuser. Please don't ask me about it, and please enjoy your day!" She never said who the person was. Media outlets figured it out from context.
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That avocado is far too ripe. https://twitter.com/ella_beaudoin/status/1035194952236589058
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Donating any money to them at all is donating to support those bills, is the basic logic of it, since the GOP's anti-trans legislation around the country is a pretty big loving deal and a main issue of concern. I'm confused because she's running as a D, and I did a quick google search for "Brianna Wu GOP Donations" but couldn't find anything. Do you have a link?
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The General posted:If you're not going to follow it up, why say anything at all? I don't understand "Not to ruin any lives or anything, but Person X is a rapist and abuser. Please don't ask me about it, and please enjoy your day!" Closure? Catharsis? Because she wanted someone, anyone to know what happened, and maybe help people in similar situations know they're not alone, but then not have to go through another few months or possible years of civil court litigation reliving it and being called a lying whore by the public?
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biracial bear for uncut posted:If you aren't regularly saying "gently caress those awful people that do those awful things" as a person with (even as small as Wheaton's) sphere of influence, you're probably supporting them. I legit can't tell if this is sarcasm at this point in 2018
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What the gently caress is going on in this thread.
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The General posted:If you're not going to follow it up, why say anything at all? I don't understand "Not to ruin any lives or anything, but Person X is a rapist and abuser. Please don't ask me about it, and please enjoy your day!" If you don't understand how PTSD actually works and how it affects victims of assault, or why a victim of that kind of assault in many cases literally cannot endure the bullshit our legal system puts them through because it blames the victim 99% of the time in these kinds of cases, I don't know what to tell you.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:What the gently caress is going on in this thread. I honestly thought this was IOSM because I don't pay enough attention to things....so yeah, I'm going to slip out of this derail now. Have a funny cat gif. https://i.imgur.com/uIBsSLt.mp4
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:What the gently caress is going on in this thread. Yeah, what the gently caress? That guy just said that he has been banned from multiple sphynx cat Facebook groups, and everybody is just arguing about Wil Wheaton like it was no big deal. I'm sorry, but that kind of revelation is the sort of thing that changes the topic of conversation.
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