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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Nnnnoooooooo

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/PortlandDSA/status/1034917033069035521?s=19

https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1035008808152653825?s=19

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

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Karl Barks has issued a correction as of 05:05 on Aug 31, 2018

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

like honestly, these people think others haven't considered "wow it would be so much better and easier if an incorruptible communist cadre just had complete control over the entire global political and economic realm". incredible analysis, let's just do that! why didn't I think of it

i apologize for my outburst

Karl Barks has issued a correction as of 20:37 on Aug 30, 2018

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Karl Barks posted:

like honestly, these people think others haven't considered "wow it would be so much better and easier if an incorruptible communist cadre just had complete control over the entire global political and economic realm". incredible analysis, let's just do that! why didn't I think of it

i apologize for my outburst

I mean they also immediately responded to his tweet with "Yeah you're right we'll clarify" so, like... breathe a little, it'll be okay

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

I mean they also immediately responded to his tweet with "Yeah you're right we'll clarify" so, like... breathe a little, it'll be okay

i mean they clarified that the facts underpinning their arguments were all not true. i guess that's a good first step. beijer has it right here:

https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1035241012820684802

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Idunno how you can be aware that 2,200 people take half the world's wealth every year, and also think that the end of oppression means the developed world will have to live on Spam.

Unless you are, of course, just a self-aggrandizing wrecker and/or a turbowoke idiot

Serf
May 5, 2011


the county commissioner's meeting got broken up early because this dude was down there hollering about the new property tax and how the commissioners are all rich guys but the tax wouldn't affect any of them

i feel like maybe the time is here to create the south georgia dsa

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Serf posted:

the county commissioner's meeting got broken up early because this dude was down there hollering about the new property tax and how the commissioners are all rich guys but the tax wouldn't affect any of them

i feel like maybe the time is here to create the south georgia dsa

You can do it

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

i do think it's a mistake to trivialize the difficulty of meaningful anti-imperialist action in american politics.it will probably be harder to intentionally diminish the empire and disentangle the MIC than it will be to build a really good welfare state, at least imo

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Halloween Jack posted:

Idunno how you can be aware that 2,200 people take half the world's wealth every year, and also think that the end of oppression means the developed world will have to live on Spam.

Unless you are, of course, just a self-aggrandizing wrecker and/or a turbowoke idiot

They're rightly criticizing (although in a very clumsy way) the distribution of common needs through taxes (circulating money). And how that requires market competition, which incentivizes national/collective policies that build up to imperialism.

It's ridiculous to criticize attempts (of varying degrees of success) to reduce the impact of market competition without at least mentioning an alternative! Their tweet would be better if they advocated for ALSO having marketless labor remuneration alongside the usual welfare stuff more typical of today.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Serf posted:

the county commissioner's meeting got broken up early because this dude was down there hollering about the new property tax and how the commissioners are all rich guys but the tax wouldn't affect any of them

i feel like maybe the time is here to create the south georgia dsa

:hai:

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

if I have no concrete ideas about socialism or how to get there it means I don’t have to do any work AND I can still get all the likes and retweets when I tell Felix from chapo that he’s cancelled, sis

so I don’t get the problem here

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Pentecoastal Elites posted:

if I have no concrete ideas about socialism or how to get there it means I don’t have to do any work AND I can still get all the likes and retweets when I tell Felix from chapo that he’s cancelled, sis

so I don’t get the problem here

:hmmyes:

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.
i was wondering how long it'd take before aob c/p'd my chapter's dumb twitter flareups itt. welp

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.
first we piss off all the libs by saying mccain was no hero, then we rustle the feathers of the pragmatists by saying the nordic model Isn't Good. perhaps the answer..

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

first we piss off all the libs by saying mccain was no hero, then we rustle the feathers of the pragmatists by saying the nordic model Isn't Good. perhaps the answer..

to tweet is a great adventure

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Last week we roasted a bunch of corn and fed folks while laughing at a bunch of less than stellar fascists who came spoiling for a fight. They mostly just stood on the pavement and baked for three hours while we hung out in the shade. The fascists, primarily from "The Hiwaymen" even had a poor dog, and got more angry than at anything else when one of our medics were concern trolling them over getting it water. It wasn't a DSA event but we brought down and cooked the food, about two dozen of us made the drive over. One of those moments that helps get a fire burning mobilization wise.

https://twitter.com/greencountrydsa/status/1035312373698101249

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

first we piss off all the libs by saying mccain was no hero, then we rustle the feathers of the pragmatists by saying the nordic model Isn't Good. perhaps the answer..

maybe u should get a new social media person

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Zas posted:

i do think it's a mistake to trivialize the difficulty of meaningful anti-imperialist action in american politics.it will probably be harder to intentionally diminish the empire and disentangle the MIC than it will be to build a really good welfare state, at least imo

Gotta already be in power, then do it slow and steady and hope they don't notice and assassinate you.

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.

Ace of Baes posted:

maybe u should get a new social media person

but if twitter drama disappeared from dsa what would you post about

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.
speaking of being perpetually online can one of you pm me the discord instructions, tia

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I don't use discord, I don't even own a computer bitch

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


gotta say i give you guys a lot of poo poo for the drama but making tucker carlson a sleeper agent was a masterstroke

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Yinlock posted:

gotta say i give you guys a lot of poo poo for the drama but making tucker carlson a sleeper agent was a masterstroke

can we have an emote that is just that face that tucker does. you know the one

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Yinlock posted:

gotta say i give you guys a lot of poo poo for the drama but making tucker carlson a sleeper agent was a masterstroke

well openly singling out bernie for praise hurts bernie's appeal among liberals who (correctly) hate carlson. serves a dual purpose

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
The amount of stubbornness I'm seeing from a bunch of committee heads in my chapter is infuriating since its going to lead to a stagnate chapter of white educated folks.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Serf posted:

the county commissioner's meeting got broken up early because this dude was down there hollering about the new property tax and how the commissioners are all rich guys but the tax wouldn't affect any of them

i feel like maybe the time is here to create the south georgia dsa

Property taxes > Education funding > Free college/trade school (with a side order of making the rich pay their share)

I've had good results with pointing out that someone with an associates degree or trade school certification is going to pay substantially more taxes during their working lifetime than someone with just high school diploma or GED. Free higher education is an investment and will start paying for itself in no more than five years.

Once you get people on board with one point of the DSA program, and, and this is important, receptive to socialism being cheaper, you can bring up MFA, which will return 200+ billion dollars to the economy every year.

At that point you have people on board for two major socialist positions, the rest should be easy.

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS

achillesforever6 posted:

The amount of stubbornness I'm seeing from a bunch of committee heads in my chapter is infuriating since its going to lead to a stagnate chapter of white educated folks.

yeah uh... lead to...

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Vhak lord of hate posted:

yeah uh... lead to...
True, but I'm glad people from the black community came out to actually tell our chapter why that is (maybe when you are working with protesters to block a major highway you don't go trying to convince a couple of the protesters to run for office)

Of course the response from a bunch of the committee heads has been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqZ2PPOLik

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

Ace of Baes posted:

I don't use discord, I don't even own a computer bitch

someone donate this nerd their old bitcoin rig

Captain Queernabs
Dec 25, 2005

Fig. 1: bonehorse
Pillbug
https://twitter.com/n_super1/status/1035609956941221888

insights into the normal refoundation caucus

Captain Queernabs has issued a correction as of 04:23 on Sep 1, 2018

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Having a real normal one

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Refoundation seem bad, you guys. Do they do good things?

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Not online, certainly.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

business hammocks posted:

Refoundation seem bad, you guys. Do they do good things?

locally they are mostly involved as individuals in our education and labor committees though there are a couple in conflict resolution as well and a smattering of other committees. they are working on strengthening ties with organized labor, trying to organize tenant councils, and establishing some non-binding chapter points of unity.

our local refoundation seems like an outlier based on online, but literally all the caucuses seem bad by online, so either ours are unusually good or online is just really good at bringing attention to the worst of everything.

mrfreeze
Apr 3, 2009

Jon Arbuckle: Master of pleasuring women


I was hoping that the second tweet meant they were drawing fanart of him where it's like a Tex Avery cartoon and you can see his skeleton. The reality is way more depressing.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
These people need Soviet work safety posters.

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS
there are worse ways of becoming a socialist thsn being shocked while installing wiring and becoming a communist frankenstein monster

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Vhak lord of hate posted:

there are worse ways of becoming a socialist thsn being shocked while installing wiring and becoming a communist frankenstein monster

I was transformed into a socialist when my research into the October Revolution toppled over into a large bin of memes, exploding and killing my beloved wife. But I became...this. Those fools at the university will pay for forcing me out! They called my experiments unnatural. I say political science demands sacrifice! <lightning strikes outside windows>

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