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Star Control Origins is basically a bootleg, being made by a company who bought the name from someone that didn't have the right to sell it, run by someone that tries to murder his own employees with bees. Other than that, it looks kind of dull, tbh.
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CYBEReris posted:Personally I'm passing on that even if it's good, Stardock were incredibly scummy to Toys for Bob. yeah this. gently caress everything those guys put out.
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Aug 30, 2018 23:12
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I was also planning on giving it a pass because of Stardock, but everything except the combat has also looked pretty rough in SCO. It seems like it'll be early access without calling it that. Hasn't Stardock done that before?
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Aug 31, 2018 00:03
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FuzzySlippers posted:Woah this game looked awesome. So much classic scifi art in it. Was it any good? For a DOS game from 25 years ago I'd give it a recommendation. At the time it got poor reviews in part because it wasn't Starflight 3 (see also reviews of Fallout: Tactics that were angry it wasn't Fallout 3.) If you like games like Star Control/Starflight/etc, Protostar's worth a play. All the bits are there, they've all been done better elsewhere, but it's a competent enough execution of the concept.
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Aug 31, 2018 00:07
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Tarquinn posted:In case you love Starflight and space RPGs like I do, Starflight 3's campaign is now live on Fig. Planet's Edge: https://www.mobygames.com/game/planets-edge-the-point-of-no-return It's wonderful.
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Aug 31, 2018 03:11
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Are stardock enormous assholes in general or just this once? I have a buddy who works at a game studio that's somewhat comeptitive with their kind of game and he always complains but doesn't give details.
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Aug 31, 2018 03:21
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They've been assholes for a long time on a wide range of issues.
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Aug 31, 2018 03:30
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Scaramouche posted:Are stardock enormous assholes in general or just this once? I have a buddy who works at a game studio that's somewhat comeptitive with their kind of game and he always complains but doesn't give details. Brad Wardell is a really, really bad person. That kinda ends up poisoning all of Stardock's stuff as a result. There might be good, talented people there, but I'm not gonna touch anything they do while involved with Wardell.
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Aug 31, 2018 08:06
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Wasn't Brad Wardell the fella who went completely off the deep end after being accused of sexual harassment, and made red-pillers look like poster-children for well-adjusted members of society?
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Aug 31, 2018 08:17
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You don't have to touch him. He'll touch you. From a distance. With bees. He is a poo poo person and pretty much seems to revel in it these days. Fortunately he still posts publicly on some forums, which is great if you like drama and seeing him act like an rear end in a top hat. I only wish he'd get involved in Star Citizen somehow. On a more thread-relevant note, I have a thing for solo or at most duo runs of games that are meant for a full 4+ member party. Not extreme challenge runs, games that at least somewhat support it. Any recommendations for fun things to try, preferably for a Wizardry style of game? I'm currently doing it in Stranger of Sword City, and I've played a fair bit of solo/duo Infinity Engine stuff, and of course I've bashed my head against Wizardry 8 once or twice. Also not really a fan of square-dancing.
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Aug 31, 2018 08:21
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Yup. That's the fella! And speaking of Star Control, he's also making life hell for the original creators of the series: https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/22/17041632/star-control-stardock-brad-wardell-lawsuit
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Aug 31, 2018 08:23
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I looked it up. https://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/09/former-employee-sues-over-sexual-harassment-studio-says-she-ruined-its-game/ Wow what a tool. That's 2012, anyone know how that one ended up? EDIT: Huh, dismissed with prejudice - both suit and counter suit. Chairchucker fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Aug 31, 2018 |
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Aug 31, 2018 08:48
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I am in the same boat as the rest of you when it comes to SCO. I want it to be good, and I wish there wasn't this kerfuffle with Toys for Bob.  The Joe Man posted:Planet's Edge: https://www.mobygames.com/game/planets-edge-the-point-of-no-return Yeah, I bought that like 18 years ago, but did not really enjoy it. Have to give it another try, because it still looks fantastic. Thanks! 
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Tarquinn posted:Speaking of space RPGs, anybody got a good recommendation? I played most of the classics (Starflight, Star Control, Future Magic, Hard Nova, Escape Velocity), but I feel there must be one or two spaceship RPGs out there that I have missed. It sort of leans more on the "we stuck RPG elements in our action game", but the recent Seven: Days Long Gone kinda flew under everybody's radar when it was actually quite good in an old-school exploration kind of way. Imagine old-school Ultima crossing with Assassin's Creed set in the ruins of a much more advanced civilization. There are technically spaceships! Edit: this is not technically an oldschool game. Or even not-technically. Also comedy option this ten year old weird thing based off eastern european sci-fi. Merrill Grinch fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Aug 31, 2018 |
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Aug 31, 2018 13:29
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Speaking of Toys For Bob, remember their game The Horde? That game was so rad. EDIT: Also apparently the actual guys who did the original Star Controls are working on a direct sequel to Star Control II called Ghost of the Precursors. EDIT EDIT: Oh wait that's right, Wardell is a colossal jackass again and is suing them. Chairchucker fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Aug 31, 2018 |
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Aug 31, 2018 13:44
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I've heard tale that World of Xeen is a game that can benefit enormously from having some kind of good Roland setup for the sound, either via actual hardware if so fortunate or perhaps some kind of specific munt shenanigans combined with whatever emulation means---is there some definitive easy guide for such? Or does this also hold true for Might & Magic 3 along similar lines?
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I'm sure many have seen this list before, but a while ago on the RPG Codex forums they voted on the top 50 cRPGs of all time. It was just fun to see how it lined up with my own preferences: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/rpg-codexs-top-50-crpgs-results-and-reviews.89680/ Also it gets broken down into pre-1995, and post-1995, which was interesting, too.
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Aug 31, 2018 13:49
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Looks like a good list.
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Yeah considering their reputation as hating everything I do agree that nearly every game on that list is great. And then... And then they have Temple of Elemental Evil in the top 25. Literally one of the worst CRPGs I have ever paid for. Hmm. Well, if you replaced it with Fallout 3 I might agree  (or, even more seriously, ELEX, A MODERN MASTERPIECE) (Wizardry VI is a guilty pleasure of mine for nostalgia reasons and I would still never say it belongs ranked nearly that high either)
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Dr. Quarex posted:(Wizardry VI is a guilty pleasure of mine for nostalgia reasons and I would still never say it belongs ranked nearly that high either) No judgement here. I like the second Pools of Radiance game, Ruins of Myth Drannor, despite its many, many flaws to which I would readily admit. I wish that it would come to GOG for convenience sake even though I still have my game CDs.
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Dr. Quarex posted:And then... And then they have Temple of Elemental Evil in the top 25. Literally one of the worst CRPGs I have ever paid for. Hmm. Well, if you replaced it with Fallout 3 I might agree I still maintain that ToEE was a fantastic game engine saddled with a terrible plot. Similar to Wizard's Crown (which didn't so really have a "terrible plot" so much as a basically non-existent plot coupled with a massive difficulty spike in the middle of the game).
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The games that I'm most happy to see on that list (Wizardry 8 and Alpha Protocol) have some serious flaws.
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Captain Kevbo posted:I still maintain that ToEE was a fantastic game engine saddled with a terrible plot. I agree. I also think that it was a brilliantly faithful recreation of 3.5 edition D&Ds combat, with all the good and bad that comes with that. My primary "want" for that game would be that it have better scaling for people like myself who like to play with large parties.
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I mean... wasn't the plot for Temple of Elemental Evil lifted directly from the module published in 1985? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Temple_of_Elemental_Evil
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Mr. Fortitude posted:I mean... wasn't the plot for Temple of Elemental Evil lifted directly from the module published in 1985? Yeah, but old modules were often just the barest of plots with a list of maps and encounters, the idea being you'd have an actual human DM to fill in the gaps. The proper way to do an adaptation of it would be to have actual writers fill in those gaps with further narrative.
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That was one of the few projects were the bulk of the writing was done by Tim Cain, and he's been self-flagellating about it to this day, to be fair.
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ToEE is very good, but it's almost unplayable without fan patches and mods iirc.
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Chairchucker posted:The games that I'm most happy to see on that list (Wizardry 8 and Alpha Protocol) have some serious flaws.
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Seems Cleve has finally realized the price for his masterpiece might not be reasonable: https://store.steampowered.com/app/650670 quote:Permanent & Sale price reductions at launch of V2 :
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I'm mildly surprised that he backed off on the pricing thing, but moreso I am pretty embarrassed that I spent $36 at release for this game and have yet to play it due in large part due to it being far from "finished." How it can still be this rough after the many years that he has worked on it is hard for me to fathom.
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It's because he's trying to single handedly create a game with a scope that should have an entire dev team working on it, and rather than using any of the modern game making tools that are available, he's carving out every scrap of code from the raw earth to prove Neanderthal superiority or something. Point being, Cleve making any concession to reality is a rare and precious thing.
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ExiledTinkerer posted:I've heard tale that World of Xeen is a game that can benefit enormously from having some kind of good Roland setup for the sound, either via actual hardware if so fortunate or perhaps some kind of specific munt shenanigans combined with whatever emulation means---is there some definitive easy guide for such? Or does this also hold true for Might & Magic 3 along similar lines?
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JustJeff88 posted:I'm mildly surprised that he backed off on the pricing thing, but moreso I am pretty embarrassed that I spent $36 at release for this game and have yet to play it due in large part due to it being far from "finished." How it can still be this rough after the many years that he has worked on it is hard for me to fathom. It's because he's literally insane. This is a game that no single person should ever have tried to make without a team. In fairness, say what you will about the end result but it's incredibly impressive for one dude's work.
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For those of you who were interested in the Dragon Wars LP: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3867581 Hope you enjoy. I'm also planning to do a few posts on replaying the game, different versions, etc. Hopefully, at least some of that will actually come to pass!
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rujasu posted:For those of you who were interested in the Dragon Wars LP: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3867581 Awesome, thanks! Gonna read it right now.
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I really like LPs that explain mechanics. It's especially good for old, obscure games with a lot of trap choices in character building, and sometimes it's good for a laugh and/or utterly horrifying when you see some of the incredibly stupid poo poo that developers due to stupidity, spite, or lack of time/resources. Many of the negatives of older games were made due to technical limitations. Many were done to make games extra difficult and last longer. Many were just made by idiots.
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I've been sucked into Wasteland all night. Probably played ten hours. Admittedly I'm spoiling as many mechanics as I can. The game is pretty sparse on objectives of any kind, which is probably my biggest complaint. Otherwise I'm really liking it. edit:  I tried Pool of Radiance yesterday and when I got to the weapon store and there were like 60 types of melee weapons I just moved on. Someday I'll return; it looks really interesting. Chinook fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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Chinook posted:edit: You monster. quote:I tried Pool of Radiance yesterday and when I got to the weapon store and there were like 60 types of melee weapons I just moved on. Someday I'll return; it looks really interesting. Most of the weapons can be safely ignored. Just get longswords, halberds or 2H swords for fighters Maces or flails for clerics Longsword for pure thief Daggers or quarterstaves for mages For ranged weapons use Longbows & arrows for fighters Slings for thief Darts for mages Staff sling for clerics (don't think these were in PoR)
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Largepotato posted:You monster. Staff slings were in azure bonds for the first time. I'm not sure if it worked properly in PoR but a fighter/thief with a fine composite longbow and some gauntlets of ogre power was deadly. They sell the bow in the silver goods shop for like 25k pp.
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JustJeff88 posted:I really like LPs that explain mechanics. It's especially good for old, obscure games with a lot of trap choices in character building, and sometimes it's good for a laugh and/or utterly horrifying when you see some of the incredibly stupid poo poo that developers due to stupidity, spite, or lack of time/resources. I've always been curious what percentage of gross revenue selling walkthroughs generally were and how much that was on the mind of the game designers.
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