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Ghost Leviathan posted:I love that the Monarch basically gladly admits to arching Shallow Gravy. Did he admit to killing 24 too? Or did I misread that.
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Action Man, take it down a notch Stop just thinking with your Action Crotch
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I don't know how I feel about Dean being given the serious, not-as-funny story-lines. That imagine sport for Hank was great!Moose-Alini posted:Did he admit to killing 24 too? Or did I misread that. X_Toad fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 17:09
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I love that all of the unnecessary killings from Jonas’ era are Rodney going apeshit. Like Tuuuuuuuuuuurnbuckle and the henchmen at spiderskull island.
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Sep 1, 2018 18:50
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Don't forget that shweet, shweet bebeh!
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Sep 1, 2018 19:35
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It was a werewolf . I did like the confirmation this episode that a level 5 can be a dude with a high-powered sno cone machine, making me assume a level 1 is just a guy yelling on a street corner.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:39
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Level 1 is probably Augustus St. Cloud and Conjectural Technologies. Or possibly early season Hank and Dean on their own.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Level 1 is probably Augustus St. Cloud and Conjectural Technologies. Or possibly early season Hank and Dean on their own. Hank and Dean getting their own arch nemesis would be a good episode.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Level 1 is probably Augustus St. Cloud and Conjectural Technologies. Or possibly early season Hank and Dean on their own. St. Cloud did have the Truckasarus that was loving up their trailer, and he was able to steal the red ball, so he's not entirely incompetent.
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X_Toad posted:[THE MIGHTY MONARCH] gloated about breaking up Shallow Gravy and that was a consequence of Helper's destruction, thus implying that he was the one who detonated the bomb that killed 24.
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St. Cloud is probably a 3-4. Guy has a lot of potentially dangerous assets but not the talent.
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I like how the episode continued the theme of it usually being the "good" guys, especially the Venture crew, that tend to use overwhelming force. The whole arch level system was created after Action Man straight up murdered Turnbuckle in cold blood after already saving Rusty and pistol-whipping the poo poo out of Turnbuckle. Brock and the OG Team Venture have killed so many people on the compound, much less elsewhere, that the field near Ben's house is a mass grave. And in this episode we found out that a level 5 protagonist leveled a city block with a fancy sno-cone machine. Outside of genuinely terrifying antagonists like Red Death, a lot of the weird bureaucracy around the OSI and GCI is set up to protect the antagonists from the Venture clan as much as it is to protect the general public from both sides.
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Preem Palver posted:I like how the episode continued the theme of it usually being the "good" guys, especially the Venture crew, that tend to use overwhelming force. The whole arch level system was created after Action Man straight up murdered Turnbuckle in cold blood after already saving Rusty and pistol-whipping the poo poo out of Turnbuckle. Brock and the OG Team Venture have killed so many people on the compound, much less elsewhere, that the field near Ben's house is a mass grave. And in this episode we found out that a level 5 protagonist leveled a city block with a fancy sno-cone machine. Outside of genuinely terrifying antagonists like Red Death, a lot of the weird bureaucracy around the OSI and GCI is set up to protect the antagonists from the Venture clan as much as it is to protect the general public from both sides. Wrong. It was the arch that leveled the block with his Level 8 unsactioned gun. The Guild guy is totally not at fault for that.
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I think the protagonists are able to go overboard because that's just the nature of the game. It's usually just one person or a small group of people doing their super science and making a living. Then an antagonist raids their building or compound or whatever to steal things and cause mayhem. They usually have an army of expendable henchmen and it is expected that a bunch of them will die. It sucks if you're a henchman though, as you're the only one in the equation expected to die.
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The whole "pee pee belt" joke felt like the male counterpart to teenage girls' tendency to be grossed out by uncircumcised teenage boys in the show. As in men have an ingrained stereotypical belief that women don't understand their "plumbing", hence why a woman is the only one to realize what's really going on because the other meaning doesn't register at all to her.
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Mokinokaro posted:St. Cloud is probably a 3-4. Guy has a lot of potentially dangerous assets but not the talent. I don't know they seemed pretty clear that he's only spent the minimum possible to be allowed to harass Pete and Billy. And he doesn't even got a bunch of henchmen around, just his own albino.
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An albino who is pretty much the Brock to his Rusty though. That guy would kick Billy and White's asses in three seconds flat. A question about the new episode : if Red Helper thought that Dean was Rusty, does that mean that Red Helper's perception of time is somewhat altered or that he was created relatively recently but with memories from the late sixties? Because he wouldn't have made that confusion if he had known that Rusty was supposed to be more than 40 years old. X_Toad fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Considering Dr. Z said that the Monarch's rating is "exceedingly generous", that is really a backhanded turn of phrase considering how low the bar is for a Level 5. I wonder what Dr. Z would have actually rated the Monarch without his wife's influence; a 3?
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Man this season has been gold so far.
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Xelkelvos posted:Wrong. It was the arch that leveled the block with his Level 8 unsactioned gun. The Guild guy is totally not at fault for that. That was exactly my point. Do you not know what protagonist/antagonist means? Preem Palver fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Preem Palver posted:I like how the episode continued the theme of it usually being the "good" guys, especially the Venture crew, that tend to use overwhelming force. The whole arch level system was created after Action Man straight up murdered Turnbuckle in cold blood after already saving Rusty and pistol-whipping the poo poo out of Turnbuckle. Brock and the OG Team Venture have killed so many people on the compound, much less elsewhere, that the field near Ben's house is a mass grave. And in this episode we found out that a level 5 protagonist leveled a city block with a fancy sno-cone machine. Outside of genuinely terrifying antagonists like Red Death, a lot of the weird bureaucracy around the OSI and GCI is set up to protect the antagonists from the Venture clan as much as it is to protect the general public from both sides. My take is that it shows just how pathetic the villains really are. They want to be able to do whatever they want but the slightest sign of consequences for all their bullshit and they start crying about how unfair it all is.
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I don't know, I thought this was also a big condemnation of the O.S.I as well, notably the fact that they expect the Guild to keep a tight leash on their membership but won't do anything to rein in the people they're in charge of, even when they level a city block and kill two civilians with an unregistered weapon of mass destruction.
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THEY ALL CHILDREN
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And Jonas' way of dealing with children? Have them duke it out! It's a good thing JJ didn't come out of Rusty until when into their forties.
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My least favorite part of the episode was Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's sudden foray into Don't get me wrong--she's an educated woman who is one of the most competent antagonists we see on the show, and in spite of this, she has been the target of overt sexism throughout her career. So, the fact that she's a feminist doesn't bother me; it makes perfect sense for her character. In the past, they don't deal with this side of her personality all that much, but when they do, it's usually in a fair and understandable way that isn't annoying or preachy. (I'm thinking of the scene with her, Watch, and Ward in "Shadowman 9: In the Cradle of Destiny" here.) The pronoun thing, though, just feels off somehow.
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She does kind of hate it when people imply that she's a man.
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Rand Brittain posted:She does kind of hate it when people imply that she's a man. True, but that's a whole different thing. And to be fair, they haven't hit on that in a very long time.
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It felt perfectly in line with her clowning on Wide Wale's sexist henchmen in The Rorqual Affair
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tarlibone posted:My least favorite part of the episode was Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's sudden foray into Are those pronouns? "Gentlemen" and "guys" feel more like titles to me. Maybe she's just become more strict about it now that she's part of the Council? Also, Rusty apparently has trouble using the female title even talking to her specifically, so maybe that's why she calls him out on it each time.
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I just wish if she cared that much, she would have a villain name that wasn't defined by her relationship with The Monarch.
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Mokinokaro posted:St. Cloud is probably a 3-4. Guy has a lot of potentially dangerous assets but not the talent. Or the inclination. He's petty and spiteful, not bombastic and hateful.
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X_Toad posted:Are those pronouns? "Gentlemen" and "guys" feel more like titles to me. She has a complicated relationship with Rusty and might have felt he was slighting her, on top of feeling the need to have the respect she deserves at such an important meeting. She didn't care about the pool fight but did with all the negotiations so she takes her job far more seriously than the other council members. Or less seriously given how much importance they placed in such a stupid dispute resolution. IUG posted:I just wish if she cared that much, she would have a villain name that wasn't defined by her relationship with The Monarch. I think they're building up to that. It doesn't seem like she's going to be arching with The Monarch any time soon, and even in his fantasy she only appears as a hallucination to wake him up.
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Except for Lady Au Pair, has she ever had her own name that wasn't based on whoever she was dating?
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I admit I keep bringing surprised that she isn't Dr. Councilwoman the Monarch.
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Cojawfee posted:Except for Lady Au Pair, has she ever had her own name that wasn't based on whoever she was dating? No, but in fairness, why would/should she? Lady Au Pair was her as a solo villain, so it makes sense she had a solo name. Queen Etheria and Dr. Girlfriend/Dr. Mrs. the Monarch were both the number 2s of other villains. It's not a gender thing (although the lazy choice of naming for her name when she's working with the Monarch kind of is) it's a villain's number 2 thing. Same reason why Gary's villain name was the Viceroy. You stick with the theme.
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An au pair is a live in maid/nanny, so even Lady Au Pair is still a diminishing title that implies she's just the hired help for someone else, even if she wasn't directly someone's number 2.
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I do think we're going to see Councilwoman Sheila have a blow up before the end of the season (either quitting villainy or staging a violent coup to become the new Sovereign), as she's pretty much the only person (besides Dr. Z) taking the Guild seriously, and all the weight seems to be on her shoulders with no one giving a gently caress or offering to help. Phantom Limb seems to have become the supervillain version of Frasier, and I wouldn't mind him just...going away if he continues to be a useless fop instead of becoming someone threatening again.
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She's also been the monarch's partner not his #2 since the end of season 2.
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