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Splicer posted:I am now creating a setting where a poorly phrased spell has turned much of the world into angry skeletons, but none of the inhabitants. That would make a kickass one-shot for Halloween.
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look if i cant make called shots to the groin then whats even the point
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Splicer posted:Low vs high fantasy are literary genres referring to whether things are set in the "real world" or in an entirely fictional world. It has nothing to do with the tenor of the stories told or the amount of type of magic present, that confusion is caused by RPG nerds misusing jargon they don't quite understand in an attempt to look smart and, when being called out on it, hiding behind what "the words mean to me, language evolves abloo bloo you're the wrong one shut up" but no one uses it for rpgs like that so, uh, it did evolve to serve a different purpose
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Countblanc posted:but no one uses it for rpgs like that so, uh, it did evolve to serve a different purpose Splicer fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 11:32
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theironjef posted:Which Gundam shows are which kind of fantasy? Cite sources, use lots of quotes, and be thorough, thanks. Escaflowne
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Nuns with Guns posted:Escaflowne Dunbine because it was by the same director and studio
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Plutonis posted:Dunbine because it was by the same director and studio Gundam is Escaflowne fantasy and Escaflowne is Dunbine fanstasy
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Which one's Combine fantasy?
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Splicer posted:Low vs high fantasy are literary genres referring to whether things are set in the "real world" or in an entirely fictional world. It has nothing to do with the tenor of the stories told or the amount of type of magic present, that confusion is caused by RPG nerds misusing jargon they don't quite understand in an attempt to look smart and, when being called out on it, hiding behind what "the words mean to me, language evolves abloo bloo you're the wrong one shut up" Where did you get that from? Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't match up with my understanding of the terms.
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I've personally never heard that definition and I've been into genre fic for decades.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Escaflowne Plutonis posted:Dunbine because it was by the same director and studio Nuns with Guns posted:Gundam is Escaflowne fantasy and Escaflowne is Dunbine fanstasy One of the more surprising things about the Mecha genre is just how many Fantasy series are in it EDIT: have some additional examples of this phenomenon; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiAvb_XfNM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuvca6MPO0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2CiX6ArmsQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQxC1vGgyoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfAgcXECU2M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk2dXSV-3KM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcki6j-i28g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o1Z80x3G5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxGilsRr5Yk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa5kpWjWU_E drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Falstaff posted:Where did you get that from? Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't match up with my understanding of the terms. It's the definition given by Wikipedia FWIW.
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Falstaff posted:Where did you get that from? Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't match up with my understanding of the terms.
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I just realized and this has kinda flashed me but Escaflowne is actually a proto-Isekai genre story. WTF. Also, I always thought that Low Fantasy and High Fantasy was sort of a split of the prevalence of magic and fantastic elements in comparison to other genre elements. A story of a hard-boiled detective in a fantasy world where he is looking for a murderer and wizards are downplayed for a cool noir story is low fantasy, while the campbellian story-mythos and wizards-first! stories are more high fantasy, you know, magic airships, giant wizard battles, magic batteries running strange necro-arch towers and the magic railways, settings where magic is front and center.
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Mr.Misfit posted:I just realized and this has kinda flashed me but Escaflowne is actually a proto-Isekai genre story. WTF.
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Siivola posted:The nineties were all about that "transported into a magical world" trope, but back then the protagonists were more often women instead of goony guys. Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi and El-Hazard all came out a long-rear end while ago. The older stories also didn't have the lovely "world is a videogame" thing, They were treated as a normal world. Though I think el hazard did the "Japanese cooking is the best" thing with one of the characters getting rich of cooking with soy sauce.
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Lemon-Lime posted:It's the definition given by Wikipedia FWIW. Thanks, I guess I could have done a quick google.
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Siivola posted:The nineties were all about that "transported into a magical world" trope, but back then the protagonists were more often women instead of goony guys. Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi and El-Hazard all came out a long-rear end while ago. Inu-loving-yasha. You're absolutely right. Isekai was big in the 90s, but it was just about girls falling into fantasy worlds and meeting cute boys and getting super powers and saving the universe. Would Amethyst of Gemworld count actually?  https://youtu.be/pkd5mYvKWig
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Hel posted:The older stories also didn't have the lovely "world is a videogame" thing, They were treated as a normal world. Though I think el hazard did the "Japanese cooking is the best" thing with one of the characters getting rich of cooking with soy sauce. Best world is a video game is still Digimon because it was super feral and trying to kill them.
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"Person from our world is transported to another world where they're super special because reasons" is a trope going back to pretty much forever. It's just that recently the market for
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I read a really bad fantasy novel where a guy got teleported into a fantasy world and then he was the mcguffin because his ring was made of a metal which was magic in the fantasy world but then he was garbage at everything and it wasn't even slightly fun to read. It was from my dad's collection and was like a six book series so it is probably a very old isekai Also, FFX is an isekai where the main character is from a different fantasy world
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The Divine Comedy is isekai
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cheetah7071 posted:I read a really bad fantasy novel where a guy got teleported into a fantasy world and then he was the mcguffin because his ring was made of a metal which was magic in the fantasy world but then he was garbage at everything and it wasn't even slightly fun to read. It was from my dad's collection and was like a six book series so it is probably a very old isekai The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. I haven't read it since I was about fourteen but I remember it being heavy going.
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cheetah7071 posted:I read a really bad fantasy novel where a guy got teleported into a fantasy world and then he was the mcguffin because his ring was made of a metal which was magic in the fantasy world but then he was garbage at everything and it wasn't even slightly fun to read. It was from my dad's collection and was like a six book series so it is probably a very old isekai Good old Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. It would have been so much better if Donaldson didn't have this thing about rape.
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The Last Starfighter is a really interesting contrast. Alex is good at flying alien spaceships, and the videogame was a method by which they could find him. It's a Chosen One story about being good at shooting spaceships with a video game as a maguffin to provide the entry point (and enhance the wish fulfilment aspect). In the current nerd wish fulfilment explosion it's not about the video games making you good at something, it's about the video games making you good at video games, or good at recognising references to video games. It would be like John Carter of Mars solving every problem by exploiting the rules to American Football, but not ever actually running anywhere or kicking anything.
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NinjaDebugger posted:Good old Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. It would have been so much better if Donaldson didn't have this thing about rape. A good use of 30 minutes.
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cheetah7071 posted:I read a really bad fantasy novel where a guy got teleported into a fantasy world and then he was the mcguffin because his ring was made of a metal which was magic in the fantasy world but then he was garbage at everything and it wasn't even slightly fun to read. It was from my dad's collection and was like a six book series so it is probably a very old isekai I like the FFX novel sequels where Tidus gets decapitated when he kicks a Blitz-Ball that was actually a land-mine disguised as a Blitz-Ball. The novels were written by the lead writer of FFX and promoted by Square Enix so that's how you know they're canon.
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fool_of_sound posted:The Divine Comedy is isekai self-insert Bible fanfiction isekai, at that. That's the argument htat I always bring up when people rail on fanfiction. Quality can be found anywhere.
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Bedlamdan posted:I like the FFX novel sequels where Tidus gets decapitated when he kicks a Blitz-Ball that was actually a land-mine disguised as a Blitz-Ball. You're full of poo poo. But on the off-chance you aren't, link please?
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Splicer posted:Yeah I heard it was a classic, started reading, put the book down at the first rape scene. The Gap Cycle novels are even worse. 
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Splicer posted:"Person from our world is transported to another world where they're super special because reasons" is a trope going back to pretty much forever. Mark Twain, the original isekai author.
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Covok posted:You're full of poo poo. But on the off-chance you aren't, link please? No, for real: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2.5_~Eien_no_Daish%C5%8D~ and a tl;dr: https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/23fw1g/a_summary_of_final_fantasy_x25/ Also again, it's officially supported material. And in the sequel novel to this sequel, Sin comes back, making the first game utterly pointless. 
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Brother Entropy posted:canon is a false idea It's amazing regardless, and the world of FFX is now richer for it! 
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Mark Twain, the original isekai author. I've seen the term "Portal Fantasy" to collectively describe these kinds of works.
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Bedlamdan posted:No, for real: 
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paradoxGentleman posted:self-insert Bible fanfiction isekai, at that. I still have weird expectations for fanfic quality after reading novel-length fanfic by a guy with a doctorate in classical literature from Oxford.
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Covok posted:You're full of poo poo. But on the off-chance you aren't, link please?
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Splicer posted:Yeah I heard it was a classic, started reading, put the book down at the first rape scene. fiction.txt
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