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Sininu posted:Intel integrated graphics doesn't support freesync right? Not yet, but they do plan to support it eventually.
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Cancelbot posted:I think I just got my shipping notification for my 8086k competition; I got a mystery DPD delivery text that a package is on its way and I haven't ordered anything in weeks. I saw a reddit post where someone received theirs recently so it's the only thing I can think of. Turns out it was! So H310 board?  I'm actually torn, my 4670k is still plenty for what I do, and has been so for 5 years now. I can't justify the upgrade and yet I have a free loving processor sat on my desk.
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Sep 2, 2018 20:56
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I'd sell the 4670K board / chip / DDR3, should pay for the 8086K board / ram and a cooler, wouldn't it?
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Sep 2, 2018 21:09
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True, it should net zero even going for a Z370 / 16GB RAM and selling what was there before.
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Can I make a retro request in this thread? If anyone knows there was also a neat spinny Pentium MMX Demo thing that has eluded me, There are just these two pics that you have to really dig for, and no video or anything. You would shoot little polygonal spheres at it and it would bing and ping and make all kinds of musical noises and the rings would spin around, going from the state in the first image to the state in the second, spinning like those machines they strap you into to make you puke on everyone in a 20 foot radius.   It was cool as poo poo and I wanna play with it again.
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I searched Internet Archive with no luck, that seems to be the sort of thing they'd specialize in. If anyone has it stored on a HD somewhere I'm sure they would be glad to host it.
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I recommend you hit up https://www.vogons.org there has to be at least one old software hoarder on there that has it.
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Is the 9700k going to work on a 370 board?
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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What the hell should I do for an upgrade? I'm on a 3570k that I ocd to 4.3ghz 5 years back. I struggled at 1440p raids in wow last night with a 1070gtx. I feel like the cpu is more of a bottleneck at this point than the gpu. Should I dive in and get an 8700k? Wait for the 9700k? I'm a bit on the fence because late next year cannon lake should be out with ddr5 If I'm not mistaken.
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The 9700K is going to be marginally faster but if you don't feel like waiting then the 8700K is fine. The 9-series will come with a fair number of nice-to-haves like a soldered IHS and much higher out-of-box clocks, and possibly slightly higher OCs. Cannon Lake doesn't have DDR5, I don't think, seeing as there are already Cannon Lake NUCs out, and if you're primarily gaming the 14++ processors are likely to be the fastest thing around.
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Zotix posted:What the hell should I do for an upgrade? I'm on a 3570k that I ocd to 4.3ghz 5 years back. I struggled at 1440p raids in wow last night with a 1070gtx. I feel like the cpu is more of a bottleneck at this point than the gpu. Should I dive in and get an 8700k? Wait for the 9700k? I'm a bit on the fence because late next year cannon lake should be out with ddr5 If I'm not mistaken. I tried finding some DX11 vs DX12 benchmarks but only found the one, but that might be a reason if you've suddenly run into lower performance. Ideally, you'd either wait for the 9X00K or Zen 2 in Q1 for the optimal bump in CPU performance. But that also assumes you're CPU bottlenecked; maybe run something like MSI Afterburner and see which of your CPU and GPU are closing in on 100% usage?
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With MMOs the bottleneck could just as much be with your network connection as it would be with your CPU, as some real-time visual updates could literally depend on the inputs of others on the server. If you've already taken the easier steps such as wiring to your router by Ethernet or making sure your game is running in DirectX 11 mode, you could install the nVidia Game Ready driver for WoW (I think one was released just recently) or try one of the more reputable VPN gaming services out there. It might still be too early to do a drastic thing such as get a new CPU since at that point you'd also want to reinstall Windows fresh too (and presumably any WoW mods you had on), to avoid any lingering application inconsistencies.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:With MMOs the bottleneck could just as much be with your network connection as it would be with your CPU, as some real-time visual updates could literally depend on the inputs of others on the server. MMOs just run like rear end in general and are the quintessential "clock as high as you can" single-threaded games. WoW's new DX12 engine doesn't actually help performance any from what I hear.
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I'll try the dx11 tonight. I did a fresh install of windows before the expansion dropped so that's not that big of a deal. I think part of my issue is I'm gaming at 1440p on an old cpu. I'm going to hook up my older 1080p monitor tonight and see how that goes.
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Zotix posted:I'll try the dx11 tonight. I did a fresh install of windows before the expansion dropped so that's not that big of a deal. If dropping settings doesn't help, it's probably a CPU bottleneck, and in that case dropping your resolution won't help either.
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Always the off chance your add-ons are causing problems.
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And it's soldered whoohoo. Poor AMD, they had a good run for a year.
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Has there been any confirmation the new i7 is soldered? All I've seen is about the i9
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The i9s and i7s are going to be the same die, just with and without hyperthreading. It would probably be more expensive to split off the i7s to not solder them. The low end Ryzens for example were all soldered (except for the APU dies) so I assume this makes logistical sense. Llamadeus fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 6, 2018 |
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So I've come across a HP Elitedesk 800 G2 with an i5 6500 and 8gb of DDR 2166 (I think?) in it - this is the first time in a while I've come across an out of warranty workstation that they still make boards for. Currently gaming (occasionally) on an i5 2500k@4.4ghz with a Z77 board, so I have USB 3.0 and all that. Benchmarks seem to indicate there's not much between these two at stock clocks, so I'm trying to figure out what I should use this for. I could upgrade my i5 2400 media box that I hardly use since buying an android tv, or give it to my dad or something. Am I missing anything significant out of the skylake generation other than M.2 support on board or USB 3.1?
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Zotix posted:What the hell should I do for an upgrade? I'm on a 3570k that I ocd to 4.3ghz 5 years back. I struggled at 1440p raids in wow last night with a 1070gtx. I feel like the cpu is more of a bottleneck at this point than the gpu. Should I dive in and get an 8700k? Wait for the 9700k? I'm a bit on the fence because late next year cannon lake should be out with ddr5 If I'm not mistaken. I'm on a 3570k @ 4.2ghz and a 1070 ti. Honestly, my 60hz screen is probably the biggest bottleneck in terms of gaming, but that's not something I do much of these days. I was seriously considering a new build based on a Ryzen 7 2700x, but since the 9700k and 9900k are coming out soon, I'd rather wait and see how they both pan out.
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What does it mean when people say the cpu is soldered? It sounds like s good thing but I thought/assumed it was bad (cause I thought people didn’t like soldered on parts in general).
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Boris Galerkin posted:What does it mean when people say the cpu is soldered? It sounds like s good thing but I thought/assumed it was bad (cause I thought people didn’t like soldered on parts in general). In this case it means the CPU silicon is soldered onto the metal heatspreader, which transfers heat better than the thermal compound Intel was using previously. A soldered CPU could also mean it's permanently soldered onto the motherboard like in a laptop, but that's not what we mean here. The new Intels still use a socket.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What does it mean when people say the cpu is soldered? It sounds like s good thing but I thought/assumed it was bad (cause I thought people didn’t like soldered on parts in general). Solder is much better than the TIM that was previously used, but potentially a few degrees worse than ripping the lid off the processor and manually applying liquid metal.
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I dunno about that.. the solder WAS liquid metal.
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redeyes posted:I dunno about that.. the solder WAS liquid metal. Tin is a fairly poor thermal conductor at something like 1/8th what copper can do. The main reason for de-lidding is to reduce the amount of material between the silicon and the copper heatspreader. If there's a fat layer of tin + an aluminum spreader that can't be removed it's not going to be as good as a super-thin layer of liquid metal going directly to copper. It's still better than packing the gap between the die & spreader with whatever, but direct copper contact is going to be hard to beat. E: (W/m K) of various metals: Tin (solder): 62 – 68 Aluminum: 204 Copper: 386 Gallium (Basis of liquid-metal alloys): 41 Harik fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Sep 8, 2018 |
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redeyes posted:I dunno about that.. the solder WAS liquid metal. Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut is twice as thermally conductive as the solder used for CPUs, it's been definitively shown that you get an advantage delidding soldered chips (with great effort) and using liquid metal; preferably with a direct die mount. But even if you just whack the heatspreader back on, it's a measurable improvement. I mean no-one should do this unless overclocking is your literal job, but it's true.
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I managed to fry my non-overclocked i7-4790K and the motherboard so now I get to wait for either the i9 or i7 evidently. Who wants to bet RAM prices may even spike back up again briefly with the release of the 9 series?
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Already expected to do so. https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180906PD200.html Not really sure where Samsung and Hynix are coming from on this outlook with regards to DRAM
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Already expected to do so. First guess: forcing a shortage to loot the market.
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I have this long game in my head when I study electrical and computer engineering where I see myself in thirty years sitting alone, meticulously spinning and packaging bespoke memory DIMMs while wearing my tinfoil hat, grumbling all the while about "corporate collusion" this and "having the knowledge and expertise to overcome the barrier to being able to seize the means of high technology production" that
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:I have this long game in my head when I study electrical and computer engineering where I see myself in thirty years sitting alone, meticulously spinning and packaging bespoke memory DIMMs while wearing my tinfoil hat, grumbling all the while about "corporate collusion" this and "having the knowledge and expertise to overcome the barrier to being able to seize the means of high technology production" that IMO start an International Movement to Nationalise Hynix
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Finally installed the 8086k. The cooler was fun to install (Dark Rock 4) but holy hell is it silent, and aside from me being a retard with XMP timings it's definitely a big upgrade from the 4670k, either through the brute force core speeds or the fact i have 3x the "threads". Once the thermal paste has bedded in I will have a go at overclocking it. Currently just on a single core turbo of 5GHz which is stock.
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An embargo bork for the 9700K: https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1039129885489287168 The 2700X performance is something to behold. E: On another note, DX12 doesn't appear to have an adverse (1080p) performance impact in Tomb Raider unlike what we've seen in a couple of games. ufarn fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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Clicking through to the review, gaming tests are run with 1070 ( ) and it's 16% faster in x264 than the 8700K.Probably not going to be a massive upgrade if you've already got a 8700K but it should be mildly faster in some circumstances. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Clicking through to the review, gaming tests are run with 1070 (
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I'm itching to get a 9900K, something Z390 with a PLX chip and some 4000MHz+ RAM. What are the best estimates for the next gen release date at the moment?
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