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kjetting posted:This is pretty accurate. I consider it to be my generation’s Spinal Tap.
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Sep 1, 2018 14:12
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Kilometers Davis posted:Metallica can do whatever dumb poo poo they want because they wrote Ride the Lightning and no band has come close to those riffs and that energy ever. I think Mustaine wrote most of the riffs for Ride the Lightning.
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Sep 1, 2018 18:31
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s.i.r.e. posted:I think Mustaine wrote most of the riffs for Ride the Lightning. "Dyers' Eve" is Metallica's sole truly great post-Cliff song.
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Sep 1, 2018 18:50
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Too many to quote! Metallica is definitely the band I've spent the most time listening to and reading about than any other artist. Yeah, the booze got me too for a few reasons. My favorite, the "we're not making mediocre whiskey here" immediately followed by "it's a blend."  And like, they all went to rehab for booze pretty much right? Another As far as the remasters, Cliff is still slightly more subtle in the mix than Kirk's leads. It's not a "better" sound, but different enough to be interesting. It's all that's on Spotify now and I'm lazy. I really tried with Death Magnetic and Hardwired. The other day I blasted Hardwired loudly on decent studio speakers. It just...sucks...balls. Like something about it being "better" than St. Anger makes it worse. At least that was a watershed moment, a true testament to how much something can really suck. Production on Hardwired is garbage. But that's par for the course. It's the riffs and drumming. So lazy sounding. Yeah, y'all did a lot of palm mute chugging back in the day. But you did some riffs with it too! Great riffs! Now it's just palm-muting with even less of the Load/Reload 5-7 or 7-9 hammer ons than normal. Does anyone itt play drums? The drums on Hardwired kill me. Bar none, the laziest most uninspired drumming ever recorded. It's new Metallica, I'm not expecting prog metal polyrhythms. There's nothing wrong with just "keeping the beat." But, someone like Phil Rudd does simple drumming without being lazy and is still creative. And fun and exciting sounding! This poo poo is just a lazy snooze-fest. So bland and dull. Unlistenable. Got all the foundation of a drunken bird's nest. Also some of the songs have extremely lovely choruses that don't seem to fit with their songs at all. fartzone_42069 fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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Sep 1, 2018 18:52
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s.i.r.e. posted:I think Mustaine wrote most of the riffs for Ride the Lightning. Honestly no one knows where Metallica truly picked up without any Mustaine influence. Here's evidence of them sounding brutal (in a good way) live. Younger, faster, cocaine. Don't worry about the sound. They fixed the sound suddenly during the first or second song. You'll hear it! Gets super bassy and mean sounding. Rules. https://youtu.be/-Olhlc19ZeQ (Metallica live 1985)
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Sep 1, 2018 18:58
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fzA455 posted:Too many to quote! Metallica is definitely the band I've spent the most time listening to and reading about than any other artist. With the ubuiquity of drum programs like superior drummer a lot of bands will separately write songs and then come together to piece them into a record. Guitar players will often just use the preset drum patterns because theyre either lazy or don't really know how to write drum parts. Hardwired feels like Lars heard the templates and thought "oh hell yeah this sounds great! I'm not changing anything"
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Sep 1, 2018 19:24
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Hrm yeah. I know bands do that but that actually makes total sense. It even sounds pretty much like a drum-machine/looped performance. Which often his stuff is/was. Like, just has to get a part right "once," and then assemble the "good" parts of like 1,000 takes. Whatever they pay a producer to record Lars is not enough.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:43
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There's even that grim sounding 'Justice Kit' preset he could use! Shame there isn't a black album kit. Or a St Anger one  On that (one, palm-muted) note, one thing I've noticed on St Anger that really jumps out is how low the double kick patterns are following the first beat. Its all BOOMbububu, as if they only used the room mic or something for the sixteenth notes, and I can't decide if thats on purpose or not.
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Sep 1, 2018 19:45
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I think it's more that Lars sucks
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Sep 1, 2018 20:16
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Yeah it's probably more that he can poise himself to hit any "first kick" physically hard, but his sustained double-kick strength/speed/skill just isn't as developed or strong, so the recordings reflect that.
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Sep 1, 2018 20:20
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Spanish Manlove posted:With the ubuiquity of drum programs like superior drummer a lot of bands will separately write songs and then come together to piece them into a record. Guitar players will often just use the preset drum patterns because theyre either lazy or don't really know how to write drum parts. IIRC, this is exactly what they did with the first non-Portnoy Dream Theater album, which is just insane to me. You're great guitarists/bassists/whatever, but why not let the guy who's been playing drums professionally for 20+ years have a crack at it first?
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Sep 1, 2018 20:51
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it sounds like either they layered another kick on top or recorded two tracks to me, theres just a middy 16th thing that I guess is a kick in a bunch of the songs, it's most noticeable in the title track. This is not in any way to dispute that Lars sucks and needs to sit down, it was just another layer of weird/dumb choices on a weird/dumb album. On the other hand, Ride the Lightning flows really well, was listening to it whilst restringing a floating trem and the 'narrative' isn't overpowering.
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Sep 1, 2018 21:27
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GreatGreen posted:Yeah it's probably more that he can poise himself to hit any "first kick" physically hard, but his sustained double-kick strength/speed/skill just isn't as developed or strong, so the recordings reflect that. pretty sure they solved that one by finally replacing all his drum hits with samples on the last album
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Sep 1, 2018 23:27
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Wark Say posted:Wasn't that Kill 'em All? The album I believe so, but I was talking about the song which is what I assumed what was being talked about. If it's the whole album, then no.
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Sep 2, 2018 01:30
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Nah I meant the entire album. It is perfect.
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Sep 2, 2018 01:48
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kjetting posted:I really liked that video and seeing the interplay between Nile Rodgers and Steve Vai and the way they communicate. Vai is incredible talented and versatile on his instrument, but it's obvious that a producer holding the reins is the difference between an interesting composition and a ridiculous wanking session. That's a little piece of lyric from DLR's "It's Showtime!," a tune off A Little Ain't Enough, where David needed at least two song ideas to finish the album and Jason Becker obliged with two basically finished songs: "It's Showtime!" and "Drop In The Bucket," the only two tunes Jason got a songwriting credit on. He provided the rhythm and David and company finished the rest. The lyrics are Dave's wry and cynical take on music-biz lingo which reminds me a lot of Pink Floyd's "Have A Cigar" in its mocking tone. They're kinda "period" like the PF lyrics were but they still ring. I think my favorite bits of "It's Showtime!" are the lick Jason played on the demo of "Hot For Teacher" that he throws in there twice because it just fits so well with that song's up-beat "Hot For Teacher" vibe, and the obvious tribute to Paul Gilbert that he throws into the solo. I won't reference it directly but if you've seen Paul's first instructional video you know it's straight out of that playbook and Becker even said something in an interview about that bit of the solo, "you really shouldn't try to play that lick unless your initials are 'P.G.'" quote:"It's Showtime!" When Vai said that in the video I had to wonder if that was something he heard around David, or David heard from him; or was he just referencing DLR's first album after he left to join Whitesnake? It was a surprise and I wish I knew the backstory there.
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Sep 2, 2018 02:32
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NonzeroCircle posted:There's even that grim sounding 'Justice Kit' preset he could use! Shame there isn't a black album kit. Or a St Anger one They've been selling a St Anger kit forever: https://www.foldingchairs4less.com/BD-F002.html?dwvar_BD-F002_configColor=Red&cgid=metal-folding-chairs (Get it in red to show just how anger you are)
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Sep 2, 2018 16:15
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https://www.jambase.com/article/metallica-talks-phish-bakers-dozen-residency-tuning-room-tour-finale stupid music poo poo crossover fanfiction
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Sep 2, 2018 23:43
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hexwren posted:https://www.jambase.com/article/metallica-talks-phish-bakers-dozen-residency-tuning-room-tour-finale took a while to parse that headline
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Sep 3, 2018 01:14
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lol Hetfield mocking Scorpions. edit: haha man I thought making fun of Lars was just because it was easy and fun but watching that "Tuning Session" he is actually terrible. loving incredible. Might as well just use a Korg Volva Sample on a broomstick with a Michael Myers mask on. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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Sep 3, 2018 02:45
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He honestly plays like he's afraid of hitting the kit.
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Sep 3, 2018 02:55
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the best part of that video is nobody laughing at kirk talking poo poo about rancid
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Sep 3, 2018 04:45
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So here's some personal Stupid Music poo poo: https://soundcloud.com/nik-fortuin-153625460/dont-give-up-the-fight 1) The guitar is a $60 first act I only bought because of the previous iteration of this thread 2) The frets are completely hosed so there isn't any point in re-stringing it 3) I realized after the fact that I've taken bits of "The Silence Must Be Heard" by Enigma, "Stairway to Heaven" , and the guitar solo from "Nautical Disaster" and re-worked them but actually what is stupid is I'm still trying to find a vocal style I like, and the bridge of the song is some low growly thing I did. My throat now feels like I've been gargling chainsaws and I don't even like the final effect anyways, do people still put tracks up for commentary? or is there a thread for that now.? Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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Sep 3, 2018 09:21
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oh my god this complete dipshit went nuclear in the wampler group today, this is one of about 10 other insane huge comments
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Sep 5, 2018 23:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH1j06bMHDQ
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Sep 5, 2018 23:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh-o3udImy8
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Sep 6, 2018 00:03
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https://youtu.be/cvmm0f92L-k I mean this is the same kind of dipshit that says electronic music isn't real. Just roll your eyes and walk away, there's no point in arguing.
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Sep 6, 2018 00:50
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I was just trying to applaud him for his bold stance on an arbitrary classification.
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Sep 6, 2018 01:16
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Music isn’t music unless it’s played on an instrument that takes years of practice and dedication so I don’t feel like a sucker for spending all that time and money on something when I could’ve just gone out and bought a computer. - every idiot blues dad
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Sep 6, 2018 03:01
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GreatGreen posted:Music isn’t music unless it’s played on an instrument that takes years of practice and dedication so I don’t feel like a sucker for spending all that time and money on something when I could’ve just gone out and bought a computer. Hey man, it takes a lifetime to know when to play that mythical sixth note to turn a mere pentatonic minor scale into TRUE BLUES.
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Sep 6, 2018 04:15
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So does that dude also think that drummers aren't musicians?
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Sep 6, 2018 06:50
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that's almost verbatim what i expect from something called the wampler pedals facebook group
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Sep 6, 2018 06:53
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Them racial undertoanz tho.
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Sep 6, 2018 07:00
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Sep 6, 2018 07:11
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I don’t even like 90% of hiphop and electronic etc non live band guitar music but gently caress that moron what a dingleberry I like the group sometimes but ugh I’m close to leaving I love this sub forum a loving ton though. Even when I disagree with y’all. Thanks for being cool and good.
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Sep 6, 2018 07:28
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Kilometers Davis posted:I don’t even like 90% of hiphop and electronic etc non live band guitar music but gently caress that moron what a dingleberry From what I understand Wampler is convinced that his core demographic is angry white males and that taking any steps toward making his online spaces not vile cesspools means hurting his pocketbook and "restricting" "free speech" and "alternative voices."
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Sep 6, 2018 07:35
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They’re not that bad honestly. The moderation team is full of cool dudes. It’s just not exact my demographic. I’m in between every internet community but that’s alright. It’s comfy floating around. I just wish the minds would open up a little more but then again I just mentioned the joy of comfort. I get it.
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Sep 6, 2018 07:38
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:So does that dude also think that drummers aren't musicians? There is an old joke: "What do you call somebody who hangs out with a bunch of musicians? A drummer."
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Sep 6, 2018 07:44
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how can you tell a drummer's knocking at your door? the knocking speeds up
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