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 the democratic party has 44 million members coffeetable fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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coffeetable posted:
How many dues paying members does the Democratic Party have? 
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Sep 2, 2018 12:12
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https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1036238916498714625?s=20
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Sep 2, 2018 14:43
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> deconstructs American faith by enumeration > "American faith lied beyond any English department to deconstruct" gently caress him, go read a book Bret
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Sep 2, 2018 14:59
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Oh Snapple! posted:Eh. A lot of funerals are his life's work. This didn't get enough attention.
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Sep 2, 2018 17:08
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https://twitter.com/seanmcelwee/status/1036287709277499393?s=21 This is a couple tweet chain that’s interesting to me. tl;dr Gillibrand has endorsed four progressive challengers to IDC (Pro Republican) Democrats in New York. Edit: also related to my question from yesterday: https://twitter.com/rtyson82/status/1036048014702346245?s=21 I really think political staffers need to be unionized and unpaid internships outlawed. Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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Sep 2, 2018 18:04
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Hedging her bets after the flak she got for her support of Cuomo?
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Sep 2, 2018 18:17
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Lightning Knight posted:Edit: also related to my question from yesterday: While I agree, I'd love to hear what CNN interns are making.
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Sep 2, 2018 18:27
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paradex posted:While I agree, I'd love to hear what CNN interns are making. I didn’t mean unpaid internships only for politicians.
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Sep 2, 2018 18:29
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Lightning Knight posted:I didn’t mean unpaid internships only for politicians. The fashion industry is notorious for being 90% staffed by unpaid interns from FIT or whatever.
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Sep 2, 2018 18:52
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Tiresias2 posted:
"Slippery slope" is a textbook logical fallacy lol Tiresias2 posted:
"If I steal $50 from you then I have to pay it back" "That's right" "But if I steal another $50 from you tomorrow, then I have to pay back another $50" "Well right--" "Even though I already paid $50 yesterday" "Well you committed a new crime--" "So there's no one-off compensation I can make where we can agree that it is complete and done" "Not if you want to keep stealing money--" "And if I steal from you every day, forever, I have to repay an infinite amount of money, sounds like the new slavery but of white people this time maybe you are the real thief here" VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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Sep 2, 2018 20:02
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Lightning Knight posted:https://twitter.com/seanmcelwee/status/1036287709277499393?s=21 More GOP reps pay their staffer than Dems woof
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Sep 2, 2018 20:57
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:More GOP reps pay their staffer than Dems Yuuuuup. I’m really curious to see a cumulative breakdown of state level staffers and presidential staffers as well though.
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Sep 2, 2018 21:28
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I wonder how much of that is nepotism.
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Sep 2, 2018 21:34
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Ague Proof posted:I wonder how much of that is nepotism. I think some of it is nepotism and also just wingnut welfare. The republican party is simply better at cultivating new workers than the democratic party. Paying people is pretty useful.
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Sep 2, 2018 22:09
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Unpaid internships are also a great way to keep out the proles, since they won't be able to live without income and they don't have daddy's money paying for them.
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Sep 2, 2018 22:14
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Grapplejack posted:Unpaid internships are also a great way to keep out the proles, since they won't be able to live without income and they don't have daddy's money paying for them. Yep. It’s an easy means of preventing upward mobility WHILE benefitting from slave labor. For the American elites this is basically a porno, wrapped in a wet dream, inside an orgasm.
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Sep 2, 2018 22:18
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paradex posted:While I agree, I'd love to hear what CNN interns are making. all companies, especially non-profits, are scared shitless of losing unpaid interns. it would change everything about how they operate.
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Sep 2, 2018 22:32
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Sir Tonk posted:all companies, especially non-profits, are scared shitless of losing unpaid interns. Theyll deal with it or fail, imo. Free market rules 
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Sep 2, 2018 22:42
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Are the paid interns employees of the government or are they paid by the member of Congress they're working for?
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Sep 2, 2018 22:44
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FuturePastNow posted:Are the paid interns employees of the government or are they paid by the member of Congress they're working for? Members of congress are each allotted a staff budget, but their campaign fund can probably hire people too. Someone should check on what is so special about that tiny percentage of interns that actually get paid.
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Sep 2, 2018 22:51
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withak posted:Members of congress are each allotted a staff budget, but their campaign fund can probably hire people too. Silence costs cash.
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Sep 2, 2018 23:00
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withak posted:Members of congress are each allotted a staff budget, but their campaign fund can probably hire people too. Interns were paid until 1994, part of the issue is House Representatives are limited to 18 paid staffers, which means they have to pick between paying an intern and hiring full time staff. I don't think the study dealt with campaign interns at all. Here's the actual study and some screen caps: http://payourinterns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Payourinternsreport.pdf   
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Sep 2, 2018 23:03
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Trabisnikof posted:Interns were paid until 1994, part of the issue is House Representatives are limited to 18 paid staffers, which means they have to pick between paying an intern and hiring full time staff. I don't think the study dealt with campaign interns at all. Why is this, an anti-corruption/nepotism measure? I’m assuming Gingrich is responsible for that.
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Sep 2, 2018 23:10
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Lightning Knight posted:Why is this, an anti-corruption/nepotism measure? I’m assuming Gingrich is responsible for that. I had to look it up but it looks like it was just republican "cutting government spending is good" basically: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/05/31/lbj-congressional-internships-halted/36b7095d-ee6c-4c15-87b6-ebc3289c23cc quote:Members of Congress were notified May 16 that the Lyndon Baines Johnson internship, which has made it possible for congressional offices to hire a two-month intern each year since 1974, will not authorize funding for any more interns this year.
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Sep 2, 2018 23:14
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https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1036266051636547585 The present state of politics is because we didn't bipartisan hard enough. Glad we've all learned nothing over the last 10 years.
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Sep 3, 2018 01:51
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Ego-bot posted:https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1036266051636547585 No one worthwhile primaried Klobuchar this year, too. It was really frustrating seeing that ballot and finding nothing but assholes.
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Sep 3, 2018 02:38
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Whoever ends up being democratic house leader needs to be loving bombarded with calls and letter and poo poo to bring back earmarks. You want cooperation in the house and Senate, that's how you get it.
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Sep 3, 2018 02:38
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Ego-bot posted:https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1036266051636547585 "We should have handed Trump more judge positions" is an interesting position to take.
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Sep 3, 2018 12:12
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Ego-bot posted:https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1036266051636547585 how fuckin stupid do you have to be to look at trump and think 'if only we had shown more decorum' seriously what a dumbshit
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Sep 3, 2018 13:29
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VitalSigns posted:"Slippery slope" is a textbook logical fallacy lol Fair enough. The wikipedia article on it states there is legitimate usage but only when there is sufficient evidence that allowing a will lead to b, and I imagine to c, to d, whatever. Look at it this way: weapons technology had been increasing in deadliness since the musket, at a certain point between the musket and the atom bomb people should have been able to tell where things were going. It seems to be more or less a similar line of thinking to that which justifies the use of "overton window" in politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_usage Yeah, the point isn't just paying back the money. It should be stopping the stealing of the money. But you assume that if we pay a sufficient bulk of money then the aggrieved won't be smart enough to construct for themselves a system that will keep them protected on their own terms, or that it won't be possible for that to happen. My further point is that much of what we conceptualize as "stealing from x group" might be the consequence of a rhetorical set-up where we can't conceptualize the same phenomenon as stealing if it happens to y group. This happens easily if we assume that stealing can only happen to x group and never to y group by definition. So we pay attention only to x group and we find an abundance of that phenomenon. Edit: And it might also be that the debt analogy isn't adequate in the first place, because, for example, the phenomena we're talking about are too qualitative to be remunerated as such. But, then, what is? Tiresias2 fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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Sep 3, 2018 16:22
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I have no idea why you think that would happen. The case for reparations is (among other things) the ongoing wealth disparity between black and white households, which is the result of a many historical factors: slavery, segregation, discrimination, disproportionate investment of government funding vis-a-vis black and white neighborhoods, etc. Once those disparities no longer exist, there will not longer be a case for reparations; it's not a problem. There is no slippery slope because "we must fix this disparity" does not imply "we must create a new disparity in the other direction". On the other hand here you are getting your life uprooted and you and your family banished to another country despite the work yall have done and the contributions yall have made to this country, so maybe you should worry more about the system of white supremacy that's dicking you over right now than about the fear that black people will enslave you on haciendas the second you stop helping whitey press down the boot on their necks, just a thought? VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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Sep 3, 2018 18:37
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Magres posted:how fuckin stupid do you have to be to look at trump and think 'if only we had shown more decorum' They're very committed to the idea of decorum Even after ten years of the GOP feeding them poo poo and not even pretending it's a nice sandwich, they still believe that a good attitude and respect for norms will win in the end. It's like they haven't ever talked to a voter and get all their feedback from the David Brooks.
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Sep 3, 2018 18:57
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Chuck Schumer (or one of his staffers) seriously cited Bret Stephens to invoke the patriotic American spirit. It’s either all they read and/or they do not give one single gently caress.
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Sep 3, 2018 18:59
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lol https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1036697374452867072?s=19
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Sep 3, 2018 21:07
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Nice.
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Sep 3, 2018 21:12
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"BREAKING": Nike ad campaign thing!
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Sep 3, 2018 21:20
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paradex posted:"BREAKING": Nike ad campaign thing! lol https://twitter.com/ahmadinejad1956/status/1036685396837625856?s=21 Serious: apparently Nike signed the deal with Kaep in secret before renewing their deal with the NFL to make all their jerseys and its being seen as a power play by Nike to force the NFL to stop colluding against players who protest. It’s unabashedly cynical but at least they’re doing it to poo poo on rich rear end in a top hat racists!
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Sep 3, 2018 23:30
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Yeah it's a case where on the corporate end it is 100% cynical but at the same time a)Kaep owns, b) gently caress the NFL owners, and c) it's gonna make a whole lot of people I don't like really loving mad.
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Sep 3, 2018 23:47
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Lightning Knight posted:lol lol we're thrown shade by the ex president of Iran, and he isn't outright wrong our morality has sunk this low
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Sep 3, 2018 23:50
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