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The return of lando in star wars 9 can only lead to increased sexiness. Oh wait billy dee looks like baron harkonnen now lol
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Raccooon posted:I don't remember seeing a Jedi Temple on Jakku am I missing something? When was this shown? SMG has some fanfic/headcanon idea that Lor San Tekka set up shop in the ruins of Luke's jedi academy/temple. This is not supported by ANY canonical material, but since SMG is "a chatbot designed to post truthfully", he just gets to make up whatever dumb poo poo he wants and idiots lap it up.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:12
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I'd just like to say: please never leave us again Cnut. We need your posts.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:13
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Raccooon posted:Its also weird how sexless the ST is. Like every character is Mr/Ms. Never Gonna Smash. There is shirtless Kylo having weird Skype sex with Rey, which, thanks to a dearth of strong characterization, serves as the only possible justification in the film for why she should have a personal investment in redeeming him. This is the progressive new Star Wars, I guess. But imagine if Kylo and Rey had been brother and sister instead? Then Rey would have an automatic personal investment in the conflict. It would have been a natural continuation of a generational family drama. Instead of wasting a whole bunch of time resolving/subverting semantically empty parental mysteries, the established relationships could have been used as a foundation to explore more substantial conflicts and themes, instead of spending two movies bouncing off the walls in Abrams' claustrophobic mystery box. Also instead of having Rey Solo lust after a psychopath, she could have spent that time developing her relationship with a black romantic interest so the trilogy could close out with the Skywalker line having become biracial. Then instead of killing off the Skywalker line as some sort of dumb, faux-iconoclastic political statement, we could just make them black going forward, which would be way cooler and more meaningful.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:14
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Raccooon posted:Its also weird how sexless the ST is. Like every character is Mr/Ms. Never Gonna Smash. It makes it more relatable for some of us.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:17
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Cnut the Great posted:There is shirtless Kylo having weird Skype sex with Rey, which, thanks to a dearth of strong characterization, serves as the only possible justification in the film for why she should have a personal investment in redeeming him. This is the progressive new Star Wars, I guess. This was always my favorite thing about the ST. It is supposed to have a feminist message and Rey immediately runs after the shirtless Kylo lol.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:17
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After TFA I was like, Disney totally gonna have a black dude smash a white woman and after TLJ I think thats not going to happen. They introduced a different minority love interest for him.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:19
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Raccooon posted:a black dude smash a white woman You've used this phrase a couple of times i think. Smash isn't a very nice word is it?
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Sep 4, 2018 01:23
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Bongo Bill posted:They say "Coruscant" a few times, but not "Coruscant system." That’s what I thought. It makes sense, then, that “Coruscant”’ is the colloquial/historical name for the megacity built on the first, or prime, planet in the Hosnian system.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:23
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NotJustANumber99 posted:You've used this phrase a couple of times i think. Smash isn't a very nice word is it? Hulk smash puny human
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Sep 4, 2018 01:24
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jivjov posted:SMG has some fanfic/headcanon idea that Lor San Tekka set up shop in the ruins of Luke's jedi academy/temple. This is not supported by ANY canonical material, but since SMG is "a chatbot designed to post truthfully", he just gets to make up whatever dumb poo poo he wants and idiots lap it up. direct quotes r A-Level canon according to the SMG storygroup so not sure why ur trying to force ur headcanon that they're not a truthful chatbot...
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Sep 4, 2018 01:25
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NotJustANumber99 posted:You've used this phrase a couple of times i think. Smash isn't a very nice word is it? Make sweet sweet love
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Sep 4, 2018 01:26
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NotJustANumber99 posted:You've used this phrase a couple of times i think. Smash isn't a very nice word is it? It's a perfectly cromulent word. For instance: "i want to smash daisy ridleys tanned boyish body"
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Sep 4, 2018 01:26
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u guys r weirdin me out
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Sep 4, 2018 01:27
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Begun, the smash wars have
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Sep 4, 2018 01:31
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Ferrinus posted:That’s what I thought. It makes sense, then, that “Coruscant”’ is the colloquial/historical name for the megacity built on the first, or prime, planet in the Hosnian system. So much of The Force Awakens feels like it was written to avoid constraining its sequels. Ambiguities like what Kylo Ren even did, that flashback, the identity of the planet Hosnian Prime, the relative strategic standings of the Republic and the First Order, the ideology underscoring the conflict - it's everywhere. This, I feel, is because the buyers of the Star Wars copyright and trademark didn't come into the project with a strong creative vision. They didn't have a story they particularly wanted to tell, so they certainly didn't want to lock themselves into telling that story if there was a chance that audiences didn't take to it. So Hosnian Prime might be Coruscant if it turns out that they've got a chance to sell a story about a decapitated galactic civilization, or it might not be Coruscant if it turns out that the odds are better with selling a story where the new Empire has the same capital as the old one. Gotta keep those options open, y'know? The trouble is that art is better when it's about something, and being about something requires a commitment.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:33
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Except it's clearly and explicitly not Coruscant. There's no "might or might not" in there.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:35
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Bongo Bill posted:So much of The Force Awakens feels like it was written to avoid constraining its sequels. Ambiguities like what Kylo Ren even did, that flashback, the identity of the planet Hosnian Prime, the relative strategic standings of the Republic and the First Order, the ideology underscoring the conflict - it's everywhere. This post is 100% correct what Disney did with the TFA
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Sep 4, 2018 01:37
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jivjov posted:Except it's clearly and explicitly not Coruscant. There's no "might or might not" in there. The movie doesn't say that it's not Coruscant. It merely doesn't say that it is Coruscant.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:38
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Bongo Bill posted:So much of The Force Awakens feels like it was written to avoid constraining its sequels. Ambiguities like what Kylo Ren even did, that flashback, the identity of the planet Hosnian Prime, the relative strategic standings of the Republic and the First Order, the ideology underscoring the conflict - it's everywhere. Yeah. I think there's also a desire to have a "canonical remake" (like Creed or even Star Trek 09)--the movie technically exists in the same ontology as the other movies, but it's also a remake of A New Hope. "Well, it worked in 1977..."
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Sep 4, 2018 01:39
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Bongo Bill posted:The movie doesn't say that it's not Coruscant. It merely doesn't say that it is Coruscant. It is explicitly identified as the Hosnian system within the film itself, and Hosnian Prime in other, equally canonical, material.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:40
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jivjov posted:It is explicitly identified as the Hosnian system within the film itself, and Hosnian Prime in other, equally canonical, material. If it's not called Hosnian Prime in the film then wouldn't you just assume that the sun was called Hos? The other material wasn't there yet and it's not like Earth is known as Sol. What's the name of Coruscant's sun?
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Sep 4, 2018 01:44
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jivjov posted:It is explicitly identified as the Hosnian system within the film itself, and Hosnian Prime in other, equally canonical, material. Was I not sufficiently clear that I was talking about the movie? The Story Group has clearly made their decision about whether the Hosnian system contains Coruscant (it doesn't). But this was a decision that they made after the release of the movie, which you can tell because all of that "equally canonical" material was published afterward. If they had made the opposite decision, nothing about the movie would need to change.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:44
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Bongo Bill posted:Was I not sufficiently clear that I was talking about the movie? Except much of that material was published before or concurrently with the film. So it was written and approved well before the film premiered. RBA Starblade posted:What's the name of Coruscant's sun? Oddly enough, Coruscant Prime
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Sep 4, 2018 01:47
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Bongo Bill posted:So much of The Force Awakens feels like it was written to avoid constraining its sequels. Ambiguities like what Kylo Ren even did, that flashback, the identity of the planet Hosnian Prime, the relative strategic standings of the Republic and the First Order, the ideology underscoring the conflict - it's everywhere. as much as people decry J Jabrams for his wishy washy mystery box and vacant setting up of Snoke and Rey's parents and all that jazz, at least he left the door open for having a new interesting story to tell in the next few movies. Rian Johnson comes along and it turns out Snoke really is just some dude who is a lot like Palpatine, and now he's gone. Rey's parents really aren't anyone, and there's nothing about Rey really left in her place. Finn really is just Some Dude, and Poe is just kind of a dummy. The first order is definitely the empire, and the rebellion is definitely the rebel alliance. It would have been nice to set up something interest in the middle movie, and have it concluded in the third one, instead you can basically (probably, I mean the third one has't come out yet) skip the middle movie and not really miss anything in the overarching story. TFA was a nice remake of ANH, which is nice, because we all liked ANH because it was a thin space adventure movie with cool sounds and visuals, and some fun characters we like to see.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:48
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jivjov posted:Oddly enough, Coruscant Prime That's not a very consistent naming scheme
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Sep 4, 2018 01:49
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RBA Starblade posted:That's not a very consistent naming scheme Nope. I'm guessing there's not a central authority for these things, and Galactic cartographers just respect whatever the locals call their planets and stars and whatnot.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:51
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^^^ Which is presumably why they changed Tatooine to Jakku when the locals started calling it that.jivjov posted:Oddly enough, Coruscant Prime Ha! What garbage. If I was setting a course in star wars, fiddling with the controls whilst eating my Kit-Kuat, I'd probably end up incinerating myself into a star.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:52
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jivjov posted:Except much of that material was published before or concurrently with the film. So it was written and approved well before the film premiered. Out of curiosity, what material are we talking about here? And, for that matter, what about the movie would need to change if the opposite decision had been made?
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Sep 4, 2018 01:52
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Raccooon posted:This was always my favorite thing about the ST. It is supposed to have a feminist message and Rey immediately runs after the shirtless Kylo lol. no the favorite thing about that message is how in the big showdown with snoke, rey does nothing except flail ineffectually, get manhandled and mocked by snoke, and wait there for kylo to save her i've said this before, but you could replace her with kylo ren's favorite kitten and the scene would play out the same way
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Sep 4, 2018 01:53
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:no the favorite thing about that message is how in the big showdown with snoke, rey does nothing except flail ineffectually, get manhandled and mocked by snoke, and wait there for kylo to save her Yeah I'd watch Star Purrs
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Sep 4, 2018 01:54
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piratepilates posted:as much as people decry J Jabrams for his wishy washy mystery box and vacant setting up of Snoke and Rey's parents and all that jazz, at least he left the door open for having a new interesting story to tell in the next few movies. Rian Johnson comes along and it turns out Snoke really is just some dude who is a lot like Palpatine, and now he's gone. Rey's parents really aren't anyone, and there's nothing about Rey really left in her place. Finn really is just Some Dude, and Poe is just kind of a dummy. The first order is definitely the empire, and the rebellion is definitely the rebel alliance. It would have been nice to set up something interest in the middle movie, and have it concluded in the third one, instead you can basically (probably, I mean the third one has't come out yet) skip the middle movie and not really miss anything in the overarching story. Yeah there is no interesting set up into the final movie. If it had ended with Kylo asking for Rey to join him and then cut to credits then you would have something.
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Bongo Bill posted:Out of curiosity, what material are we talking about here? That map that was posted shortly before the film's release; the Galactic Atlas, the Visual Dictionary, etc.
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Sep 4, 2018 01:54
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jivjov posted:That map that was posted shortly before the film's release; the Galactic Atlas, the Visual Dictionary, etc. What about the movie would need to change if the opposite decision had been made?
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Bongo Bill posted:What about the movie would need to change if the opposite decision had been made? Well, Poe would say "Finn's familiar with the weapon that destroyed the Coruscant system." not "Finn's familiar with the weapon that destroyed the Hosnian system.", and they would have shown Coruscant on screen getting destroyed rather than a completely different planet.
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Sep 4, 2018 02:01
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Coruscant (the City Planet) is located in the Hosnian system.
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Sep 4, 2018 02:02
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jivjov posted:Well, Poe would say "Finn's familiar with the weapon that destroyed the Coruscant system." not "Finn's familiar with the weapon that destroyed the Hosnian system.", and they would have shown Coruscant on screen getting destroyed rather than a completely different planet. We've established it's meaningful to say that Coruscant is a planet within the Hosnian system, or a city on one of those planets. After all, if there's no central authority and they just call everything what the locals call it, who's to say that's not the case? The planet shown on screen looks an awful lot like Coruscant to me.
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Sep 4, 2018 02:03
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Raccooon posted:Yeah there is no interesting set up into the final movie. If it had ended with Kylo asking for Rey to join him and then cut to credits then you would have something. that idea has made so much sense to me that its crazy they didn't do it. I didn't care for this movie, but cutting it there would have solved so many issues I had with the movie that I think I would have liked it. I don't think theres even anything of value that would have been lost to the movie either, if they had just cut right there with no other changes at all
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The planets we know Coruscant is not include Desert Planet, Beach Planet, Island Planet, Ocean Planet, Rain Planet, Underwater Planet, Sinkhole World, Termite Realm, Redwood Revival, Metal Planet 1, Metal Planet 2, Snow Planet, Red Snow Planet, and the Boring Casino... But it is City Planet, which was destroyed. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Coruscant (the City Planet) is located in the Hosnian system. No it isn't. Bongo Bill posted:The planet shown on screen looks an awful lot like Coruscant to me. Turn on your monitor. Open your eyes. Milkfred E. Moore posted:But it is City Planet, which was destroyed. You know that "Single biome" doesn't mean that there's only one planet for each biome...right?
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