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after the one year anniversary of the unite the right murder a bunch of centrist and liberal journalists were patting themselves on the backs for their victory over the alt right. no mention of antifa or protesters the nazis themselves will tell you it was antifa and the left protesting and deplatforming that stopped them. richard spencer is open about that fact. letting nazis speak is a bad idea, the paradox of tolerance and all that jazz
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Doctor Spaceman posted:https://twitter.com/alanalentin/status/1036820990662041600 That is a brilliant thread, a shame it will fall on deaf ears. I wanna pick out a highlight: https://twitter.com/alanalentin/status/1036882455368613889 It's a trap to see such discrimination as mindless, and the MSM are siding with the big guys in charge of it. The use of left/right gets them off the hook too so they can indulge in their fake objectivity yet again.
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Sep 4, 2018 20:45
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Tom tried to save his dogshit played out show with an even and balanced segment. Deserves to die and rip.
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Sep 4, 2018 21:25
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"Both sides" bullshit needs to go away and I don't know how it's going to be achieved. You could have an objectively incorrect force (fascist Nazis) but the right-wing media will cheer for them while the centrists will try and find equivalence between Nazis and the people fighting them. There is no left-wing media, at least not in Australia.
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Sep 4, 2018 22:10
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Also that poo poo was like 7 and a half minutes - I'd watched a half hour video about Mario Kart speedrunning before that and I still refused to waste my time on it. Isn't that like a third of the show's running time?
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Also that poo poo was like 7 and a half minutes - I'd watched a half hour video about Mario Kart speedrunning before that and I still refused to waste my time on it. Isn't that like a third of the show's running time? Yeah they were really proud of it and thought they were saying something worthwhile.
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Sep 4, 2018 22:15
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Boycott the mainstreaming of Nazism by continuing to not watch tv
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Sep 4, 2018 22:16
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Maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle.
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Reclines Obesily posted:after the one year anniversary of the unite the right murder a bunch of centrist and liberal journalists were patting themselves on the backs for their victory over the alt right. no mention of antifa or protesters Black bloc kicks so much rear end, but that's a thousand percent scapegoating for the apathy for genuine rally mutilate the under classes style fascism here and in the US The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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Sep 4, 2018 22:23
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The Peccadillo posted:Boycott the mainstreaming of Nazism by continuing to not watch tv It's hard to find objective reasons why TV is doing that outside of guessing that the statistics support a solid audience for it. It's tempting to believe it's a small audience because the total audience for politics seems to be historically small to start with (some say its 10% of the audience, some go lower). A decade ago, Dr Sally Young said: quote:So despite all the focus on the internet, at this point in time, TV is still by far the most popular medium in Australia and it’s the place where the accidental audience is most likely to come across political news. TV is in a transition phase. Its audience has declined (or fragmented depending upon how you look at) and there are other worrying signs for the future. Yet, for the moment, it still remains immensely popular with nine out of ten Australians watching TV every week.[13] On average, Australians watch over three hours of television a day.[14] As David Denemark notes, it ‘dominates Australians’ lives at home’.[15] By comparison, although it’s growing, when it comes to getting information and news about politics or a federal election, the internet is still a niche medium in Australia. This is changing but, at the moment, far more people rely on the traditional media.[16] You'd expect those kind of numbers to have changed, but it's difficult to find any numbers, primarily because the audience for them are not the public, they're the political class. The noises made by those plugged-into the politics debate seem loud but we don't really have a good handle on exactly how, or whether they're influential at all. I'm getting a bit disenchanted with twitter for that reason, its getting harder to separate the SNR what with politicians trying to pander directly outside of mainstream channels, and journalists continuing to act as if Twitter or Facebook are mediums for them to continue to talk down to the public. Still, it's better to engage and make noises that they at least will have to notice, busy as they are ignoring the vast majority of Australians.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:11
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You’ll never guess which political editor at the Guardian has an absolutely dogshit opinion about Steve Bannon
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BBJoey posted:You’ll never guess which political editor at the Guardian has an absolutely dogshit opinion about Steve Bannon you 
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Micallef has been telling the same jokes for twenty years and it doesn't bother me at all I'll be happy with twenty more
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SCOTT Morrison has declared Australia’s retirement age will no longer be increased to 70 years old in one of his first major announcements as Prime Minister to win back voters. In a surprise announcement on the Nine Network’s Today show this morning, the Prime Minister revealed the government would reverse a budget decision to lift the retirement age to 70 and keep it at age 67. He said he “no longer” thought it was a good idea for Australians to work until they were 70. “Look, I was going to say this next week but I might as well say it here,” he told host Karl Stefanovic. “I have already consulted my colleagues on that. Next week Cabinet will be ratifying a decision to reverse taking … the retirement age to 70. “It will remain at 67, which is what Labor increased it to.” Mr Morrison said raising the retirement age was a budget measure that was no longer needed.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:30
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How many sweeteners can the Liberals give to Boomers before an election? The answer may surprise you.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:31
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froglet posted:I know a bunch of fuckwits who think we should just let these folks speak. Including those transgender deniers and Germaine Greer. Because freeze peach. I know a few people who used to think similar who were all Galaxy brain types who think they were very logical and rational etc etc. so I introduced them to the paradox of tolerance. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance That's actually changed some of their opinions.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:32
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Anidav posted:How many sweeteners can the Liberals give to Boomers before an election?
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ScoMo you mad dog, announcing policy randomly before cabinet fully approves it. That's moi team, go Sharkies.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:33
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Look Doug mate look, ScoMo is burping tomorrow's powerball numbers on sunrise. Maaaaaaate.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:36
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Scomo announces new "learn to earn" 75% flat income tax for millennials; silver service at home dining for boomers earning under $250,000 per annum.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:36
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Gimme a oval office who wants to abolish work full stop, not just for the elderly
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Sep 4, 2018 23:38
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Anidav posted:Look Doug mate look, ScoMo is burping tomorrow's powerball numbers on sunrise. Meat platter raffle rear end pm
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Sep 4, 2018 23:40
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Scomo you mad dog, making all weekends long weekends for those over 65. Maaaaaaate.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:44
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Keep pandering to all those lovely baby boomers Morrison. All the younger folk who signed up for the same sex shitshow will see your lot gone.
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Sep 4, 2018 23:59
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https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1037100764294836224 Gr8 to see the leader of the country publicly making GBS threads on programs helping marginalized kids
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quote:Exclusive figures obtained by The Daily Telegraph show already this year hospitals have referred 74 kids Hmm. Yeah, that doesn't sound quite so alarmist. better go with the 200% figure 
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Sep 5, 2018 00:46
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ScoMo will bring the cane back to our schools in order to cure our Little Diggers of the rampant diseases of homosexuality and transgender
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I want to say "I just don't understand how people can look at those kinds of numbers and think 'kids are being forced into the tranny fad!!!' rather than it just being that society has become more accepting/accommodating so people who in years past would have just repressed their feelings are now able to be open about and act on them" but of course there's nothing to try and puzzle out, it's just unabashed hate
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Sep 5, 2018 00:54
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Lol at all the old people on Facebook comments section begging ScoMo to put pension age back to 55.
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Anidav posted:How many sweeteners can the Liberals give to Boomers before an election? Maybe they learnt something from their  2016 pre-election budget?
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Anidav posted:Lol at all the old people on Facebook comments section begging ScoMo to put pension age back to 55. drat it was 55 once?
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hambeet posted:I know a few people who used to think similar who were all Galaxy brain types who think they were very logical and rational etc etc. I've showed them that already! While it convinced a small handful about booting actual Nazis, some of them were still saying free speech should trump everything. And still didn't seem to see the harm of letting those transgender quacks and Greer speak. I tried to explain it (like how this validates people who hate transgender folks and encourages crimes against them because of this ideal being transgender is "not real" or "just made up"), but they'd already made up their mind that all intolerance is equally bad except maybe actual Nazis. Upside: one of my "friends" proceeded to "quit Facebook" because "politics is so polarised" and "why can't people just be kind to each other". I considered pointing out she's insanely privileged and has never had to fight for basic rights, but that would feed into this idea that despite being the child of an insanely wealthy family and having private schooling up the wazoo and her parents subsidising her multiple undergrad degrees, she's somehow the underdog of the world.
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Reclines Obesily posted:drat it was 55 once? To be fair there are jobs that burn you out by that age, like construction jobs. Except I don't think there's a good metric to go "yep your life is hosed now, go retire", and I feel like maybe it's a copout to not make employers responsible for crippling people by middle-age.
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Sep 5, 2018 01:20
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Michael McGowan over at Theg is running a liveblog today regarding the inquiry into the bloody au pairs, and the go with them. https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-committee-live quote:Eric Abetz is here!
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Sep 5, 2018 01:27
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The Peccadillo posted:Gimme a oval office who wants to abolish work full stop, not just for the elderly
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Sep 5, 2018 01:28
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Reclines Obesily posted:drat it was 55 once? Probably back when life expectancy for a working male was 56,
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Sep 5, 2018 01:31
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I can't imagine a way of implementing it that wouldn't cause massive problems in practice, but one way of introducing a UBI would be to have it replace the age pension and gradually lower the age at which you start receiving it until it covers all of society.
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Reclines Obesily posted:drat it was 55 once? No. When it started in 1909 it was from 65, or 60 if you were incapacitated (or a woman, from 1910)
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