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wizzardstaff posted:This gets especially goofy in Lost, where the characters are bonking each other on the head so often with so little consequence that it's basically an on-off switch. Starting at 7:00 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2jzwny
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Kwanzaa Quickie posted:Leviathan Wakes, the first book in The Expanse series, has an interview with one of the authors at the end. The interviewer asks him how that version of FTL drive works and he responds “Very efficiently”. By "that version" do you mean just in "magic space engine"? As they very much do not go faster then light.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:17
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Phanatic posted:Archer is about the only one in fiction that recognizes that. I loved the bit in the last episode of Season 5(?) where the bad guy is the only one left with a gun and holds everyone up but when he gets away he lets out he didn't have any bullets left and Archer comments that it was his fault because he's the one supposed to count the bullets
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Sep 5, 2018 17:18
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Then they go to suggest he can do that because he's autistic - a possibility Archer seriously considers because he was keeping track of bullets while dying, and getting shot. 
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Sep 5, 2018 17:20
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Nutsngum posted:By "that version" do you mean just in "magic space engine"? As they very much do not go faster then light. Yeah, the “get to the other end of the solar system without dying of old age” drive
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Sep 5, 2018 17:24
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bike tory posted:I'm sure it's been brought up before but the thing that happens in every action movie ever where they whack someone with the butt of a gun, or just hit them in the back on the head, and they fall unconscious for an unspecified amount of time. Yeah this is one of my biggest pet peeves because its such a lazy shortcut that solves lots of violent conflict and... it just doesn't work. Also people who get shot in the chest and go dead silent instantly. Unless you blow somebody's brains out, they will live anywhere between a minute and 2 hours before they die from blood loss or what have you. They probably can't fight anymore but they can scream or shoot a gun still.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:33
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Phanatic posted:Archer is about the only one in fiction that recognizes that. Archer also makes an issue with how loud guns are and how firing them in close quarters or near someone's head can cause serious ear damage and hearing loss. So good.
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Sep 5, 2018 17:37
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Does it still do that thing where it makes the same 5 jokes over an over again? And most of them are callbacks to the first time it was a joke? That's what made me stop watching that show that was otherwise good. It all came to a point when they had Kenny Loggins in the shows because season 1 episode 1 he said "danger zone".
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Sep 5, 2018 17:38
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IUG posted:Does it still do that thing where it makes the same 5 jokes over an over again? And most of them are callbacks to the first time it was a joke? That's what made me stop watching that show that was otherwise good. It all came to a point when they had Kenny Loggins in the shows because season 1 episode 1 he said "danger zone". I dunno man it sounds like you just don't like humor. Running gags aren't exactly joke recycling, they put fresh funny spins on things.
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Just finishing up watching Disenchanted, Matt Groening's new show. Well, I say, "new" but it's more Futurama in fairytale land. Yeah, remember the Futurama episode, Bender's Game, when they go all Dungeons & Dragons and it was really poo poo? It's that. Well, not quite as bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHlHF8UHT5Y&t=8s  There are a few good moments, but nothing stands out. Every joke and character is 100% what you expect them to be if you've ever watched one of his shows before and you'll see each one coming a mile away. But what really shits me is the show drags out the tired loving corpse of "pathetic loser who pines for the girl and inevitably breaks down her resistance by Megillah Gorilla has a new favorite as of 18:03 on Sep 5, 2018 |
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Sep 5, 2018 17:58
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KozmoNaut posted:I loved the Hyperion and Endymion books, and to a certain degree Illium and Olympos as well. I really liked Hyperion too and Terror but Dan Simmons has full on brain worms now. He wrote a book where Obama and liberal policies ruined America so much that it was invaded by Japan and Mexico and got Israel nuked by Muslims. If only Obama was willing to say "radical Islam" then they wouldn't have built a mosque at Ground Zero.
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Sep 5, 2018 18:13
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Zaphod42 posted:I dunno man it sounds like you just don't like humor. No, I liked the jokes. But after the 20th time it is done, it's no longer funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRU3I_o1vLc
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Just finishing up watching Disenchanted, Matt Groening's new show. The thing with the dwarf guy running into a gnome/giant fight was just so utterly mirthless
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Zaphod42 posted:I dunno man it sounds like you just don't like humor. Archer really tested the limits of how many times the same jokes could be spun, even by the second season. And then they did soft reboot seasons with slightly different settings so the same jokes and characters could be recycled over again.
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Tagichatn posted:I really liked Hyperion too and Terror but Dan Simmons has full on brain worms now. He wrote a book where Obama and liberal policies ruined America so much that it was invaded by Japan and Mexico and got Israel nuked by Muslims. If only Obama was willing to say "radical Islam" then they wouldn't have built a mosque at Ground Zero. I gave up at Illyium, good to see that was a good choice. The Hyperion Cantos was terrific writing, I still love the jester’s intro story where he loses the ability to speak in anything but swears.
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synthetik posted:I gave up at Illyium, good to see that was a good choice. The Hyperion Cantos was terrific writing, I still love the jester’s intro story where he loses the ability to speak in anything but swears. Illium and Olympos aren't bad, and I very much enjoyed them. Especially the stuff with the robots in the asteroid belt. But yeah, I'm not sure whether I'd be able to enjoy them again, burdened with the knowledge of Dan Simmons' decline into insanity.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:32
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Megillah Gorilla posted:But what really shits me is the show drags out the tired loving corpse of "pathetic loser who pines for the girl and inevitably breaks down her resistance by There's a disenchanted thread, a few goons liked it but most of us were extremely disappointed, and that right there is my #1 complaint. The whole "lets mock Elfo for not having a girlfriend, so he lies and pretends a woman who has never met him is his lover" is a plot pulled from 20 years ago and shows Groening either phoned it in on Disenchantment or has been living a sheltered and disconnected life since The Simpsons made him rich.
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Sep 5, 2018 22:06
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah this is one of my biggest pet peeves because its such a lazy shortcut that solves lots of violent conflict and... it just doesn't work. I'll add to the generic movie irritations: Injecting people in the neck. Yeah, there's a lot of vessels there and you could get your drug into the bloodstream quickly. But if you just jam a needle into someone's neck in a surprise attack you're far more likely to hit muscle/bone/oesophagus or any of the other structures that are in there. Hitting a blood vessel takes a modicum of precision, which leads us to Instant acting injections. Drugs take a few seconds to work even injected into a major artery. If you inject into muscle then you're looking at least several minutes. The whole 'pop up, stab them in the neck and they drop before you even take the needle out' is just ridiculous.
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I think there was a story about when Babylon 5 was being filmed that people complained that a brawl between Sheridan and some other characters coming in at about 2 minutes was going on too long and wasn't realistic because people were used to TV fights being one-two punch affairs that knocked someone out in a single good punch. https://youtu.be/JhIAWyGQW8Q?t=74 warning, flashing lights JediTalentAgent has a new favorite as of 23:06 on Sep 5, 2018 |
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I find Val Kilmer's performance as the rebellious, authority defying, responsibility denying, punk rear end, funny guy genius in Real Genius to be super unconvincing, and I really like Val Kilmer.
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My IIMM for Disenchanted was that there was a noticeable lack of soundtrack. Like most of the show was utterly silent aside from dialogue and sound effects which made the “serious” scenes seem really flat. It was like watching a rehearsal take that hadn’t been edited.
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jabby posted:I'll add to the generic movie irritations: I haven't seen it in a movie for years now, but the chloroform rag over the mouth was another one. Of course after being instantly knocked out with a blow to the head/injection to the neck/chloroform rag the hero often wakes up rope-tied to a chair or pole. This one isn't as bad because I assume it CAN be done well, but it's actually pretty hard to securely tie someone to anything with rope. Even tying super tight with lots of rope you can usually wiggle free in under 30 seconds. My other pet peeve in action movies these days (the Marvel movies overuse this significantly) is where the protagonist gets captured and heroically resists torture, so the villain threatens a friend or loved one. The protagonist then immediately caves to whatever demands the villain has, usually handing over whatever item or information villain need to murder thousands or millions of people. Superheroes all need to take a moral philosophy 101 course or something
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I want to see that go down afterwards, too. "You sat there, you sat there and watched them loving torture me for 4 hours!" "There was nothing I could do, I was tied to a chair!" "You could have told them what they wanted to know!" "If I'd done that, they have no more need for us and they would have killed us both!" "Good! Again: Tortured, four hours! Did you NOT hear that I was literally BEGGING someone to just loving kill me like 20 minutes in." "Yes... I heard... I heard all of that. It's going to haunt me forever..." "..." "..." "Haunt YOU forever?! Oh my God, I'm SO SORRY for what YOU had to endure for those four hours! I'm sorry I was so insensitive to YOUR suffering from all this. Speaking of my insensitivity, 90% of my nerve endings no longer feel anything!"
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JebanyPedal posted:I find Val Kilmer's performance as the rebellious, authority defying, responsibility denying, punk rear end, funny guy genius in Real Genius to be super unconvincing, and I really like Val Kilmer. That movie was like the predecessor to the "i loving love science" stuff. If they made that today and threw in a cameo of neil degrasse tyson and bill nye it would probably be a huge hit. But yeah, I didn't really buy his character either. The "non-nerd pretending to be a nerd that's pretending to be a non-nerd" feeling was too strong.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I want to see that go down afterwards, too. Babe, it's not my fault torture doesn't work, and anyone who says otherwise is an irredeemable monster *pan out, looks at camera*
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Oh and "torture" usually just involves punching them in the face a few times. *Captain America looks up, lip bloodied after being punched in the face* "Do you worst, evilbadguy, I'll never tell you the launch codes!" *Evil bad guy punches him in the face again* "Never!" *Evil bad guy picks up some bone screws, dental drills and wheels out a torture rack* "Whoa whoa whoa I thought you were just going to threaten to kill Bucky or whatever. Jesus, you psycho"
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bike tory posted:Oh and "torture" usually just involves punching them in the face a few times. I know you’re not arguing for this but I’m perfectly happy without realistic torture scenes in movies.
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Tagichatn posted:I really liked Hyperion too and Terror but Dan Simmons has full on brain worms now. He wrote a book where Obama and liberal policies ruined America so much that it was invaded by Japan and Mexico and got Israel nuked by Muslims. If only Obama was willing to say "radical Islam" then they wouldn't have built a mosque at Ground Zero. Wow holy poo poo. I wonder if he suffered a traumatic brain injury.
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bike tory posted:My other pet peeve in action movies these days (the Marvel movies overuse this significantly) is where the protagonist gets captured and heroically resists torture, so the villain threatens a friend or loved one. The protagonist then immediately caves to whatever demands the villain has, usually handing over whatever item or information villain need to murder thousands or millions of people. Superheroes all need to take a moral philosophy 101 course or something Superman struggles with the Trolley problem 
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Zaphod42 posted:Superman struggles with the Trolley problem "I'd just swoop in and save them all, and track down the evildoer who tied those poor people to the tracks, of course."
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And Batman would just let it happen. "I don't have to save you, Ra's!"
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It sort of struck me that the couple of Marvel movies I've seen that I've felt a bit of a strange 'blehness' to certain large elements all share relatively unsympathetic villains. As fun as the GOTG films are, the villains just lack a core of "Okay, I sort of understand motivations why you are acting this way even if I disagree." In another thread I actually complained about the opposite, in some small way: That too many sympathetic villains were gradually going to make audiences a bit bored because they want a pure villain, again. I get that it creates a deeper reading and exploration of the film and its message, though.
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Screaming Idiot posted:"I'd just swoop in and save them all, and track down the evildoer who tied those poor people to the tracks, of course." Someone must remember this webcomic I'm half remembering. Superman is there with the Justice League and Batman is like "I can use my super sleuthing powers to figure out how the bad guys did it-" and then Superman says "Nahh, I'll just throw them into the sun". Then The Flash says "My super speed will let us catch-" Superman: "Nahh, sun". Wonder Woman "My lasso of truth will ensure that-" Superman: "Sun." Did I make that up or does it actually exist?
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Depressio111117 posted:I know you’re not arguing for this but I’m perfectly happy without realistic torture scenes in movies. There are a few films that show it isn't just smacking dudes in the mouth and it makes the scene a lot more powerful. When you see a blowtorch against a foot or pliers in a mouth, you know poo poo just got real. If you kidnap Liam Neeson's daughter, you better believe electrified nails are getting jammed in your thighs!
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The 'best' torture scene was in Looper, where the guy's future self just starts losing body parts because they've captured the younger self and are mutilating him. No gore, no blood, just one really horrifying realization.
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Mel Gibson's Payback comes to mind. "This little piggy went to market..."
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Jack Bauer ties up a dude and uses a knife to make a lot of small slices all over his chest and stomach. He has a squirt bottle full of lemon juice and goes to town on the wounds.
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Nah I'm good
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I just wish they'd show how torture doesn't loving work, because people will say anything they think you want them to say to make it stop, even if it's complete bullshit. The intelligence you get from torture is useless. If you torture anyone long enough they'll confess to anything. But movies always show it being the quickest and most accurate way to find out what you want. Ironically Star Wars is the only movie I can think of that gets it right. The rebels are on Dantooine indeed. And Infinity War was just one hero after another failing the trolley problem. Imagined has a new favorite as of 03:17 on Sep 6, 2018 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Superman struggles with the Trolley problem I liked The Good Place’s take on that. You don’t choose, you sacrifice yourself.
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