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Odd Mutant posted:Yeah Doom 2's levels kinda suck. Loved that one interview John Romero did with IGN where in it he mentioned he playtested his levels over and over constantly, making little tweaks each time. It so obviously helped Episode 1feel as refined as it was because while the levels were somewhat open-ended, they were good at directing you around to play smoothly. It's pretty obvious that some Doom and quite a few Doom 2 levels weren't playtested very hard. I remember when I first got Doom 2 with my dad, half the challenge was finding what that switch we just hit did and god timed switches while playing on a joystick  Here's the interview if anyone hasn't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUU7_BthBWM
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Max Wilco posted:I want to try Wolfenstein '09, but PC copies are hard to find nowadays (they're not as cheap or as common as the console copies). Retrostein is great, it doesn't really make it harder but tweaks things a bit such that it feels better to play. To be honest the game doesn't look like it's going to be sold again for the foreseeable future so I wouldn't feel too bad about  edit: if you're in the UK, CEX have copies for £12 which isn't bad
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Pretty sure the copy I got (including the RtCW disc) was $20 with free shipping, but it's a used copy on eBay so YMMV.
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Wolfenstein 2009 is a game that I wouldn't feel too bad about if you want to play it nowadays since the people who currently hold the IP don't care about it. Bethesda's PR, Pete Hines, straight up called the game crap in some E3 (or Quakecon? maybe some other gaming event around then) 2013 interview in front of a crowd back then so I don't see it ever popping up again for sale.
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And yet they still sell Rogue Warrior
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It's easy to poo poo talk games funded and published by someone else for telling it like it is brownie points in between attempting hostile takeovers of developers as was the case with the scrapped Prey 2.
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Though at least there, Human Head Studios' next upcoming game, The Quiet Man, is apparently kinda bad. Gameplay shifting to FMV in very unconvincing ways, no audio (I see the logic, given the player character is deaf, but nevertheless brave and arguably foolish)... I dunno. Might not have any bearing on the quality of what would've been Prey 2, but it makes me wonder. Also they decided to rename their upcoming sequel to Rune, previously titled "Rune: Ragnarok", to... just "Rune". Yeah, great, thanks guys.
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Shadow Hog posted:Also they decided to rename their upcoming sequel to Rune, previously titled "Rune: Ragnarok", to... just "Rune". Yeah, great, thanks guys. Is this the first time the "Name the Xth game in the series the name of the first game" has been the second game? Because that seems really dumb, beyond how dumb it already is.
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Talking of Rune, is the GOG version different from the Steam version at all?
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pete hines wouldnt know a good game if it bit him on the rear end bethesda has mistreated the poo poo out of Arkane and a bunch of their newer acquisitions. gently caress them.
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Shadow Hog posted:Also they decided to rename their upcoming sequel to Rune, previously titled "Rune: Ragnarok", to... just "Rune". Yeah, great, thanks guys. They probably realized that people would a) think they were ripping off Thor: Ragnarok, and b) probably not recognize the game as a sequel to Rune because Rune is obscure as gently caress nowadays.
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Gloomy Rube posted:Is this the first time the "Name the Xth game in the series the name of the first game" has been the second game? Because that seems really dumb, beyond how dumb it already is. Prey?
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catlord posted:Prey? The new one shares basically nothing with the original Prey so I wouldn't call it part of the series.
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I'm hoping this will be an interesting video for some of you. It's about game preservation and history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBqYrmbDBgs It's not specifically about old shooters, but I think it's still really relevant.
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Fallom posted:The new one shares basically nothing with the original Prey so I wouldn't call it part of the series. That's fair. I assume that reboots are out, so that leaves out Shadow Warrior and Rise of the Triad. I guess Rune might take it?
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Mordja posted:Hey, guys, excited for a fully polygonal (old)Doom? My god, those are predictably ugly. However, for a split-second I saw that super shotgun as a blued/case hardened coach gun and thought that it was the one cool thing about the screenshots. Turns out that that's not the intention. Like, at all. The Kins posted:They are. I think most of the stuff in that mod is pulled from other projects, mostly quick-n-dirty experiments with the new material stuff. Oh man, I really like that Mancubus redux. The attempt at more "photo-realistic" sprite work ends up reminding me a lot more something like Realms of the Haunting, ROTT, or even Duke 3D though--but I'm not complaining.
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skasion posted:Talking of Rune, is the GOG version different from the Steam version at all? Also, uh, hey, I know I'm shittalking Human Head Studios (or at least their naming conventions), but it looks like Rune
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You gotta kill them with swords and shapes! Swords and shapes!
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Final Marathon
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Shadow Hog posted:IIRC the Steam version is an updated one, "Rune Classic", that reworks some levels, cuts others, and tosses in some of the new monsters from the PS2 port that weren't in the original. The GOG version is also that, but its price of admission also includes Rune Gold, which is the original PC game and its multiplayer-only expansion pack, Halls of Valhalla, as it originally was, no cuts or edits (just the official v1.07 patch). The Steam version doesn't appear to offer that, looking into it; it's Classic or bust there. So the enhanced version is Classic while the untouched is Gold? Are they trying to confuse the players?
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Is there any film or tv series that depicted (or showed) a proper videogame without, erm... sound like complete idiots? I know that sometimes you see real videogames being played in 'I Zombie' where two of the main characters play Dead Island on a Xbox360 and surprisingly they don't say/show stupid reactions but other than that... 
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Guillermus posted:Is there any film or tv series that depicted (or showed) a proper videogame without, erm... sound like complete idiots? I know that sometimes you see real videogames being played in 'I Zombie' where two of the main characters play Dead Island on a Xbox360 and surprisingly they don't say/show stupid reactions but other than that... In John Wick they play Dust 514 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K-cQHgg7nw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPN1L4IWdw
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Guillermus posted:Is there any film or tv series that depicted (or showed) a proper videogame without, erm... sound like complete idiots? I know that sometimes you see real videogames being played in 'I Zombie' where two of the main characters play Dead Island on a Xbox360 and surprisingly they don't say/show stupid reactions but other than that... Shaun of the Dead has a scene where the main characters play Timesplitters 2. Apparently Simon Pegg and Nick Frost were playing it for real and kept getting too into the game and forgetting their lines!
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Ularg posted:In John Wick they play Dust 514 I didn't even know that videogame existed. 
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Guillermus posted:I didn't even know that videogame existed. Yea, CCP created Dust 514 as a console shooter tie-in for Eve Online. F2P and exclusively for the PS3 it was meant to interact with the new planetary systems that came with the new eve-o expansion at the time. The idea was that you'd build these bases in eve online, then fight over them using contracted mercenaries, which were players from dust 514. You'd spend ingame money in eve online to buy them armaments and vehicles and I THINK they actually gave eve online players the ability to bombard the battle from orbit using capital ships. It was really ambitious but it was under developed and not very polished. The game was... alright. I was taken in by the concepts and the promises they had and play it for a bit. It kinda felt like a less cohesive Battlefield 2142 or Enemy Territory: Quake Wars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiUawDfdJZY
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Looks fun, shame that stuff like that never catches because a tie between a space RTS/MMO with a shooter would be my dream WH40K or even starcraft dream.
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Sorry I should have grabbed a gameplay trailer and not the cinematic one (I had a dungeon queue pop): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puaXly9SVQE
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Convex posted:Shaun of the Dead has a scene where the main characters play Timesplitters 2. Apparently Simon Pegg and Nick Frost were playing it for real and kept getting too into the game and forgetting their lines! There's also an episode of Spaced were Simon's character doesn't sleep for a few days (because he took bad speed) and spends the whole time playing Resident Evil 2 and eventually has a freak out. Which is part of how Shaun of the Dead came about actually. It's weird to watch now considering it was nearly 20 years ago and he's playing on the old analog stickless psx controller.
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Anyone know of a newer version of Doom 64 Ex or equivalent that support Ultrawide? The Brutal version does, but the website version of 64 EX does not.
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Cat Mattress posted:So the enhanced version is Classic while the untouched is Gold? Are they trying to confuse the players?
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Guillermus posted:Is there any film or tv series that depicted (or showed) a proper videogame without, erm... sound like complete idiots? I know that sometimes you see real videogames being played in 'I Zombie' where two of the main characters play Dead Island on a Xbox360 and surprisingly they don't say/show stupid reactions but other than that... I actually had a thread years ago that was all about video game portrayals in other media, but I've never been able to find it since. I remember the thread title included the words "turn off the sun now!", in reference to an extremely dumb plot point in an episode of Law & Order SVU. If anyone can find it, I'd love that.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I actually had a thread years ago that was all about video game portrayals in other media, but I've never been able to find it since. I remember the thread title included the words "turn off the sun now!", in reference to an extremely dumb plot point in an episode of Law & Order SVU. It's probably in the archives by now. Whenever this comes up, the scene that immediately springs to mind is the bit in Charlie's Angels that depicts two kids having a very intense two-player head-to-head match of...Final Fantasy 8.
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ToxicFrog posted:It's probably in the archives by now. For every 1:1 videogame portrayal (just straight up showing a real videogame) they make 100 dumb ones.
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It was cool when Reign Over Me used Shadow of the Colossus to represent Adam Sandler's grief-obsessed character. That was the one instance of video games in media where you felt like the writers knew what they were doing.
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The classic videogame Half-Life (1998) plays a prominent role in the climax of the film Max Knight: Ultra Spy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B16zqPAzXxQ I'm not linking to the scene because this entire movie is loving incredible and you should just arrive at the scene naturally, as the lord intended, while watching goddamn Max Knight: Ultra Spy Seriously watch every frame of this Made For UPN movie
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I love that their 'error message' is just 'Are you sure you want to quit your game in progress?" or something similar. 
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DoombatINC posted:The classic videogame Half-Life (1998) plays a prominent role in the climax of the film Max Knight: Ultra Spy I think you might secretly be a horrible person. Why would you do this to poor innocent thread-reading people?
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