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Jack Trades posted:Andrzej Sapkowski is SO talented he wrote a modern western power fantasy character in 1990 Poland. he's pretty untalented imo
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Elderbean posted:Geralt is the most bland character I've seen that people really love for some reason.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:12
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I think " loving lots of chicks and also kicking rear end" has kind of a timeless appeal.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:12
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Yeah but Witcher Fans act like he's some kind of refreshing and original hero and not a power fantasy.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:14
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Surprise, gamers are unable to spot the difference between fiction that makes them feel good and fiction that is good
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Sep 5, 2018 19:15
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A lot of male protagonists are power fantasies though. I think Geralt bring a very flat and brooding, and maybe even understated, character makes all the other characters he interacts with that much more interesting in contrast. Even the other Witchers are shining examples of personality in comparison. If you had a bunch of Zoltans running around (gently caress yeah though), the other NPCs wouldn't stand out as much. In The Witcher 3, he's portrayed as a world weary, put upon, "just the facts ma'am" old man, with an occasional pithy comment and very little patience for other people's problems. Which I can relate to.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:17
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*in the gravelly badass voice of a peerless killing machine* ciri your mother and i want to talk about being honest while also maintaining boundaries with each other
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Sep 5, 2018 19:18
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Zane posted:*in the gravelly badass voice of a peerless killing machine* ciri your mother and i want to talk about being honest while also maintaining boundaries with each other Even as a big fan of the Witcher franchise I gotta give this a solid lol of approval.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:20
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Elderbean posted:Yeah but Witcher Fans act like he's some kind of refreshing and original hero and not a power fantasy. The reason I like Geralt is that he pretends to be tough and emotionless but he's actually a big soft-hearted goober who has no idea how to be a dad. I mean that's really it. I just think he's kind of a fun character. There's this in-universe myth that Witchers are emotionless killing machines and Geralt seems to really try to believe that it's true, so he doesn't even realize how emotional he really is. (Also given every Witcher we meet in the games I have no idea how anyone believes that Witchers are emotionless. They're a bunch of idiot bros who joke around and tell stories and get weepy all the goddamn time.)
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Sep 5, 2018 19:25
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Elderbean posted:Yeah but Witcher Fans act like he's some kind of refreshing and original hero and not a power fantasy. Don't forget that he also has a lot of the characteristics of a Mary Sue; Geralt isn't just a Witcher, he is an Extra Special Witcher who was a total master of the witcher training and was the only one to survive a bunch of additional mutations that turn you into a pale-skinned white-haired mega-goth
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Sep 5, 2018 19:27
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Geralt getting poo poo faced with Lambert and Eskel at Kaer Morhen is probably the second hardest I've ever laughed at a video game.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:30
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a bone to pick posted:the most ideal resolution is 800x600 on a crt monitor
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Sep 5, 2018 19:34
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I think Geralt is a fun character but also if anyone thinks he isn't a power fantasy then fuckin lol He's a super-strong and handsome monster hunter who also has the gift for real magic like what sorcerers do (even though he doesn't use it), and also women all want to gently caress him, which is extra dope for everyone because he can't get anyone pregnant or get diseases, so Geralt rides across the countryside having sex with countless beautiful women and doing hero things He's also an awkward idiot dad who doesn't know how feelings work.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:36
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QuarkJets posted:Don't forget that he also has a lot of the characteristics of a Mary Sue; Geralt isn't just a Witcher, he is an Extra Special Witcher who was a total master of the witcher training and was the only one to survive a bunch of additional mutations that turn you into a pale-skinned white-haired mega-goth But it's offset by everyone* hating him! *everyone who is stupid and ugly or doesn't have great tits
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Sep 5, 2018 19:39
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oh no, a power fantasy in my video game, how did this happen
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Sep 5, 2018 19:43
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Verisimilidude posted:he's pretty untalented imo More like undertalented
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Verisimilidude posted:geralt is the modern power fantasy. He's cool and handsome, has a thick beard, deep raspy voice. He can fight and cast magic and all of the women want him, so much so that chicks turned into collectibles for him to bang. Everyone respects him and people who don't almost always get their asses kicked. Plus he has a cool wolf necklace, two swords, and cat eyes. I must not like The Witcher because I already have a daddy that matches most of this 
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Sep 5, 2018 19:48
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steinrokkan posted:oh no, a power fantasy in my video game, how did this happen No one's complaining about that you goober
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Sep 5, 2018 19:51
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Some people are complaining about it.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:06
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Nah, power fantasies are fine, just don't pretend they're super deep.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:12
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It started being really grating writing for me once I turned 16  EDIT: when it's not so over the top it becomes fun again i mean BioMe fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Sep 5, 2018 |
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Sep 5, 2018 20:12
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Elderbean posted:Nah, power fantasies are fine, just don't pretend they're super deep. It’s not super deep yeah, but I like that he’s also a turbo dork that originally tried to pick a really long pretentious name to sound cool before he was told to knock it off, basically made up the whole “Witcher code” thing so he has an excuse to tell people to gently caress off if he doesn’t want to do something, and that his whole stoic and cool act is something that like 0% of the people in his life are convinced by.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:46
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Witcher chat always devolves into talking about the plot because the gameplay itself is so loving bad
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Sep 5, 2018 22:04
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The only people who say the gameplay is bad are universally insufferable.
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Sep 5, 2018 22:08
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steinrokkan posted:The only people who say the gameplay is bad are universally insufferable. The first game's combat is extremely bad, Witcher 3's combat is tolerable but not great
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Sep 6, 2018 00:40
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I remember hating the pathing while walking over rocks or out in the woods.
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Sep 6, 2018 00:52
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steinrokkan posted:The only people who say the gameplay is bad are universally insufferable. It's true. Most people I know that commented on it said that the third game's action finally achieved the lofty goal of being ok. Maybe.
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Sep 6, 2018 00:59
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Yeah Witcher combat has always been like 3 years behind everyone else, it's never been good. They're like Bioware's action games and Elder Scrolls in that respect, all of these big open world RPGs usually have mediocre combat compared to full blown action games. Their strengths generally lie elsewhere.
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Sep 6, 2018 01:14
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Just give me Gothic 1 combat controls where you held down the mouse button and pressed the arrow keys to swing left and right.
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steinrokkan posted:The only people who say the gameplay is bad are universally insufferable. The gameplay is really bad and you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise
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Graphic posted:I must not like The Witcher because I already have a daddy that matches most of this Metal Gear Solid V is the anti-power fantasy in a way, you're the ultimate badass but nothing you do is really remembered by anyone in the larger series, and you find out in the end that you're a victim of a huge lie. It was pretty smart they gave the main characters a genuine heroic reason to go after Skull Face only to sour the triumph of defeating him with letting them live out their sadistic revenge fantasy
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Sep 6, 2018 04:31
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I enjoyed the gameplay and thought it was fine.
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Sep 6, 2018 04:52
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bradzilla posted:The gameplay is really bad and you are fooling yourself if you think otherwise Same people who say Witcher 3 is bad say Dark Souls combat is good, so they're just consistently and objectively wrong.
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Pyromancer posted:Same people who say Witcher 3 is bad say Dark Souls combat is good, so they're just consistently and objectively wrong.
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Sep 6, 2018 11:17
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Pyromancer posted:Same people who say Witcher 3 is bad say Dark Souls combat is good, so they're just consistently and objectively wrong.
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2house2fly posted:Metal Gear Solid V is the anti-power fantasy in a way, you're the ultimate badass but nothing you do is really remembered by anyone in the larger series, and you find out in the end that you're a victim of a huge lie. This sentence would accurately describe noted power fantasy Witcher 3 as well.
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Sep 6, 2018 12:01
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Witcher 3 is a good game that's somehow greater than the sum of its parts
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Pyromancer posted:Same people who say Witcher 3 is bad say Dark Souls combat is good, so they're just consistently and objectively wrong. i was thinking on this at the bus stop, and I can't remember any time when i had a fantastic experience in W3 from the gameplay itself. i often thought 'that was fun' but I also occasionally thought 'that was annoying'. TBH i would put it on a similar level to skyrim, it's a bit better than adequate, but not brilliant.
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Witcher 3 sucks and is bad, dark souls 1-3 is cool and good And dark souls 2 is the best of the bunch
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sebmojo posted:skyrim, it's a bit better than adequate
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