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https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/i-am-part-of-the-resistance-inside-nyarlathoteps-death-cultquote:For instance, we replaced the orphans It absorbs every “morning” with migrant laborers, and It didn’t seem to notice. When Its appetite turned to Idaho, one of us directed Its soulless gaze up towards the moon. No more moon, of course, but no one can say we ever turned our back on our core constituents. Motherfuckin’ 
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I am not a cop. But 1: Cops are from a wide range of places and states and types of living environments (rural, suburb, dense city) so their opinions will vary wildly! 2: What the hell is a registered gun owner? That’s not a thing most everywhere in the USA.
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America: Where a highly trained cop can't be expected to control himself versus an untrained civilian who is panicking over being confronted by a man with a gun.
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The unhinged armed lunatics running around America have badges
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It's impossible to ask for a "cop opinion" on something. It's a wildly diverse profession. You have small town departments where every cop is $13 a hour part time and then departments like the NYPD which are 30k sworn officers and then small suburban departments that pay 150k a year. I work with a cop who is a member of the DSA and another who is a rabid Trump supporter. The four people above me in my immediate chain of command are either female, POC or both, but there's other departments which are, to put it mildly, not very diverse. Policing in America has no national standard. Criminal law in America has no national standard. What is a violent felony in some states may not even be a crime in others. It makes establishing and evaluating police departments very difficult.
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CommieGIR posted:America: Where a highly trained cop Don't kid yourself.
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mlmp08 posted:I am not a cop. When I registered my G19, it required two trips to the main police station in DC, about $250 in fees, fingerprinting, and an ID card mailed to me with my photo and the make, model and serial number of my firearm. Smiling Jack, if you came across someone who came back as a lawful registered gun owner or CCW holder, would that make you more or less inclined to view them as a potential threat? Edit: nvm, just saw your other post, but I’m still interested in your subjective opinion.
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Smiling Jack posted:It's impossible to ask for a "cop opinion" on something. It's a wildly diverse profession. You have small town departments where every cop is $13 a hour part time and then departments like the NYPD which are 30k sworn officers and then small suburban departments that pay 150k a year. How would you feel about nationalization of police?
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Smiling Jack posted:Don't kid yourself. The expectation stands. If Police are unable to control themselves, the idea that civilians should be expected to in the face of a gun is laughable.
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CommieGIR posted:The expectation stands. If Police are unable to control themselves, the idea that civilians should be expected to in the face of a gun is laughable.  Good point disarm the populace they can't be trusted
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pantslesswithwolves posted:When I registered my G19, it required two trips to the main police station in DC, about $250 in fees, fingerprinting, and an ID card mailed to me with my photo and the make, model and serial number of my firearm. it was only until very recently that this was an option and I can still only check NYC residents. There's no accessible state or national registry. I assume every person I meet is armed anyway. Pay attention to hands and attitude and hope for the best
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That Works posted:How would you feel about nationalization of police? It's impossible. The balkanization of laws in America at the state, county and municipal level require officers to be trained on local laws, also the massive difference in resources significantly changes functional responses. I'm gonna effort post on this later, on the phone.
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Smiling Jack posted:It's impossible. The balkanization of laws in America at the state, county and municipal level require officers to be trained on local laws, also the massive difference in resources significantly changes functional responses. Cool. I hear that thrown around now and then and it sound good on paper (with respect at least to a uniform training standard) but I had no idea how it would actually work and how police actually felt about it.
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That Works posted:How would you feel about nationalization of police? This is sort of like asking a cop how they feel about becoming part of the British commonwealth. It could never happen outside a constitutional amendment and is contrary to the basic principals of America, federalism etc. so why think about it.
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Getting rid of our federalist system and nationalizing all of the state governments is the only way to get national policing or laws.
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Now for some light-hearted tinpot dictatorory: The government photographer who took photos of Trump's inauguration cropped then to make the crowd size look bigger after the president personally asked him to. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/06/donald-trump-inauguration-crowd-size-photos-edited
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Smiling Jack posted:it was only until very recently that this was an option and I can still only check NYC residents. There's no accessible state or national registry. Part one. Not entirely true. NLETS allows you to inquire based upon license number or ssn. Part two. True and always watch the hands
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Smiling Jack posted:It's impossible. The balkanization of laws in America at the state, county and municipal level require officers to be trained on local laws Is there actually such a requirement? "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" doesn't seem to apply to the police when people are improperly detained or an officer is unable to explain what they're charging an individual for.
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Syrian Lannister posted:Part one. Not entirely true. NLETS allows you to inquire based upon license number or ssn. not around here
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Hot Karl Marx posted:There are receipts! 
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Mr. Nice! posted:Getting rid of our federalist system and nationalizing all of the state governments is the only way to get national policing or laws. Maybe just a national training and standards program then?
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That Works posted:Maybe just a national training and standards program then? some departments have elected sherrifs and pay $13 a hour part time some departments run their own academies and pay six figures good luck
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That Works posted:Maybe just a national training and standards program then? National training doesn't work unless you're talking about the most basic of things because there are over 51 different sets of criminal laws to enforce. This is because of our dumb "dual-sovereign" setup of government. Federalism was a mistake. also Burt Reynolds just died.
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Mr. Nice! posted:National training doesn't work unless you're talking about the most basic of things because there are over 51 different sets of criminal laws to enforce. This is because of our dumb "dual-sovereign" setup of government. Federalism was a mistake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvBUHMB8ZY
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Now my wife thinks Im either a wizard with a crystal ball that fortells the death of celebrities. "Motherfucker this was posted 18 minutes ago, the body aint even cold. HOW DO YOU ALWAYS KNOW" And Im all "idunno internet"
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Mr. Nice! posted:National training doesn't work unless you're talking about the most basic of things because there are over 51 different sets of criminal laws to enforce. This is because of our dumb "dual-sovereign" setup of government. Federalism was a mistake. Legal abortion, no fault divorce, gay marriage and other rights owe their national application to sovereign States exploring and legalizing those rights first. Marijuana legalization, expended anti-discrimination laws, death penalty prohibitions and other rights exist because sovereign States pass such laws. As more and more sovereign States adopt those rights, it becomes more likely that the Federal government will nationalize them. Without the Sovereign States being able to be these "laboratories of democracy" these rights would either have come into effect much, much later, or not at all.
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KirbyKhan posted:Now my wife thinks Im either a wizard with a crystal ball that fortells the death of celebrities. There was a tweet that I can't find anymore and it was like "hey did you hear about <thing from three hours ago>" "yes, I've already heard every possible opinion about this and this conversation now brings me physical pain" and it's shockingly true for me.
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joat mon posted:Legal abortion, no fault divorce, gay marriage and other rights owe their national application to sovereign States exploring and legalizing those rights first. Marijuana legalization, expended anti-discrimination laws, death penalty prohibitions and other rights exist because sovereign States pass such laws. As more and more sovereign States adopt those rights, it becomes more likely that the Federal government will nationalize them. Without the Sovereign States being able to be these "laboratories of democracy" these rights would either have come into effect much, much later, or not at all. Those same laboratories of democracy also went to war with each other over human chattel, instituted jim crow, continue to oppress minorities of every sort, and believe women are property to be owned by their fathers or husbands. Many of them, my current and home states included, have horrific and unconstitutional laws on the books just waiting for a guy like Kavanaugh to get confirmed so civil rights cases can be overturned. I'm not saying abolishing all home rule is the goal, because that would be ridiculous. There is zero reason to have 50 different legal codes and a competing federal code. There is so much redundancy and inefficiencies inherent to our system that lead to a lot of disparate results. Yes, you're absolutely right, that some good has came from independent sovereignty, however there's just as much horrible poo poo as well. There are ways to balance the competing interests of home rule along with having a universal and standardized set of laws and courts.
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Mr. Nice! posted:National training doesn't work unless you're talking about the most basic of things because there are over 51 different sets of criminal laws to enforce. This is because of our dumb "dual-sovereign" setup of government. Federalism was a mistake. But wouldn’t a base level of training that covers deescalation and proper escalation of force help diffuse use of deadly force by police? Maybe you get accepted to a PD, get your basic admin knocked out, gear issue, familiarization from that PD as well as a basic level of competency and marksmanship. Then you go to the federal school for a short period of time that covers escalation/deescalation/use of force continuum with case studies and role play/practicals. Then back to where you came from to learn where the state inspection sticker should be. Hell, throw in Mass Casualty/Terrorism Response training to add some homeland security funding to pay for it.
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warsow posted:But wouldn’t a base level of training that covers deescalation and proper escalation of force help diffuse use of deadly force by police? Use of force varies by jurisdiction.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Use of force varies by jurisdiction. Yes, but that only means in some jurisdictions there are more levels to escalate than others. But no matter the district escalation of force is still just that. Teaching to the minimum of 1) no force 2) detain/immobilize/non-lethal and finally 3)lethal and then just adding in the additional layers after the fact at the local level still mitigates that.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:Burt Reynolds dead 
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/06/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-assault/index.html Dude who punched the Unite the Right organizer the day after the murders in Charlottesville got sentenced 1$ fine for punching a neo-nazi shitstain
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPM78c2lwQ dead, dead is what i am
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Bolow posted:https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/06/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-assault/index.html Justice system...good????
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honestly I don't give a gently caress about dead rich people get at me
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Bolow posted:https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/06/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-assault/index.html gently caress i got $14 bucks in my wallet right now. Let’s get punchy!
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Bolow posted:https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/06/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-assault/index.html That's all it costs to punch a nazi? 
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You don't hear this very much, but Democrats absolutely nailed the right candidate for Tennessee Senate (vacated by Corker). https://twitter.com/nickgourevitch/status/1037809830243823616?s=19 Bredesen is the former mayor of Nashville and former governor of Tennessee. This seat should be red as gently caress and not even close. Also Alex Jones got permabanned from Twitter 
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