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got my hands on some good poo poo this weekend. an anthology of persian poets such as rumi and hafez and a bunch of others plus a translation of Du Fu.
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Heathens, but at least civilized heathens
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ulvir posted:got my hands on some good poo poo this weekend. an anthology of persian poets such as rumi and hafez and a bunch of others plus a translation of Du Fu. that the georg johannessen version? it's good, very brechtian
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Sep 2, 2018 13:33
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V. Illych L. posted:that the georg johannessen version? it's good, very brechtian yeah, that's the one.
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Sep 2, 2018 13:56
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ulvir posted:got my hands on some good poo poo this weekend. an anthology of persian poets such as rumi and hafez and a bunch of others plus a translation of Du Fu. hello what's the collection called
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Sep 2, 2018 16:55
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jagstag posted:hello what's the collection called if you can read Norwegian its called Fra vinhus og moské. its not a big collection, but I'll take what I can get
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Sep 2, 2018 20:03
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if youre going to read works in translation why bother reading a translation into one of those other irrelevant languages yes hello i'd like to purchase this copy of the odyssey translated into esperanto, the peace-loving language of all nations shame you don't have it in enochian but i'll take what i can get eh
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Sep 2, 2018 22:40
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lol if it's your native language why the hell not
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Sep 2, 2018 23:14
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ulvir posted:if you can read Norwegian im going to kill myself
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Sep 3, 2018 04:44
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there's probably some collections in english somewhere? V. Illych L. posted:lol if it's your native language why the hell not I usually prefer translations into norwegian where I can get them. some exceptions are like the iliad/odyssey, where there's vastly better translations in english available. and obviously when a book is written in english in the first place, I'll always read the original (same with danish and swedish) even with a good proficiency in english, there’s something to be said for reading in your L1 ulvir fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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Sep 3, 2018 08:15
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chernobyl kinsman posted:if youre going to read works in translation why bother reading a translation into one of those other irrelevant languages You seem very stupid
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Sep 3, 2018 08:42
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hell, i guess there's about as many people who speak norwegian as there are people who speak esperanto. can't really think of any major differences between these two languages..
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is this the point where I just outright state that norwegian is my native language and that that's the reason why I actually bought that collection, or what edit: but anyway the translators do mention some english collections of persian poetry in either the foreword or the afterword. I can try to dig up their suggestions for jagstag and others later on ulvir fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Sep 3, 2018 |
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Sep 3, 2018 13:24
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Pretty much everyone I've spoken to agrees that the Russian classics are worse in English than in Finnish
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Sep 3, 2018 13:37
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Ulvir, do you have any opinions on the quality of Bartlett's translations of Knausgaard? It has struck me more than once that Karl Ove's prose seems like it would be easily translatable, but then I know nothing at all about Norwegian syntax or idioms.
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Sep 3, 2018 13:45
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I'm kidding guys. Ulvir I'm sorry I made fun of your barbarous northman tongue
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Sep 3, 2018 16:01
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I want a Latin translation of Ulysses
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Sep 3, 2018 16:40
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In the vein of 'Harrius Potter', 'Winnie Ille Pooh' and 'Hobbitus Ille'. It will be called simply ... 'Ulysses'
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Sep 3, 2018 16:41
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Hi I finished Poisonwood Bible and was very impressed but mostly i was upset by my own ignorance of the goings on anywhere in the world beyond my doorstep. does anyone have suggestions for fiction that also teaches you real world history, as that book did? Or even some very engaging history books about anywhere in the world other than 'the west'? Also about 3/4 through vertigo and... uh... wow. this book is crazy. at first i was wondering how any reviewer could possibly describe it as 'alarming' but yeah, i'm alarmed.
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Sep 3, 2018 16:55
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mdemone posted:Ulvir, do you have any opinions on the quality of Bartlett's translations of Knausgaard? It has struck me more than once that Karl Ove's prose seems like it would be easily translatable, but then I know nothing at all about Norwegian syntax or idioms. No, sorry. But from what I’ve read of him, he only sparsely uses traditional idioms. English and Norwegian are both SVO languages though, so it should be fine. I’ve read Saramago in both english and norwegian, and his works “sounds”/feels pretty much the same in both languages, for what it’s worth.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:I'm kidding guys. Ulvir I'm sorry I made fun of your barbarous northman tongue my barbarous tongue allows me to read three different languages so I’m pretty fine with it
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Sep 3, 2018 19:57
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I'm reading Lem's A Perfect Vacuum, it's a bunch of reviews of books that don't actually exist in the vein of Platonov. It's really good.
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Sep 3, 2018 23:21
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ulvir posted:my barbarous tongue allows me to read three different languages so I’m pretty fine with it Yeah but each one is only a third of a real language
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Sep 4, 2018 02:15
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well at least we don't do that stupid thing you guys always do where you call dialects accent for some reason
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Sep 4, 2018 11:35
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I just got xorandor by christine brooke rose and im a sci fi reader now so will be leaving this thread forever goodbye
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Sep 6, 2018 19:10
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CestMoi posted:I just got xorandor by christine brooke rose and im a sci fi reader now so will be leaving this thread forever goodbye it any good?
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Sep 6, 2018 19:19
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Shibawanko posted:I'm reading Lem's A Perfect Vacuum, it's a bunch of reviews of books that don't actually exist in the vein of Platonov. It's really good. Would be fun to survey the fictional reference/compendium/anthology genre. What else is there? Nazi Literature in the Americas, some Borges, maybe Pale Fire depending on the parameters.
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Sep 6, 2018 21:40
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Vila-Matas’ Bartleby&Co. fits the bill and is pretty good
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Sep 6, 2018 21:56
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Many thanks to the multiple people here who recommended Rachel Cusk, I'm in the middle of the Outline trilogy and it's really good. Any recs on any of her earlier books?
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Sep 6, 2018 23:25
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CestMoi posted:I just got xorandor by christine brooke rose and im a sci fi reader now so will be leaving this thread forever goodbye Farewell, and welcome to the science fiction thread.
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Sep 7, 2018 02:20
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MystOpportunity posted:Would be fun to survey the fictional reference/compendium/anthology genre. What else is there? Nazi Literature in the Americas, some Borges, maybe Pale Fire depending on the parameters. Perec's A Gallery Portrait is very, very good, probably my favourite in that genre.
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Sep 7, 2018 12:32
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I guess Life a user's manual (which owns) might fit that too
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Sep 7, 2018 12:34
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MystOpportunity posted:Would be fun to survey the fictional reference/compendium/anthology genre. What else is there? Nazi Literature in the Americas, some Borges, maybe Pale Fire depending on the parameters. Borges yeah (Lem references him as a basis for APV), Platonov's Anti-Sexus.
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Sep 7, 2018 13:36
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Would Invisible Cities count?
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Sep 7, 2018 13:40
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Krankenstyle posted:Would Invisible Cities count? No, but if you meant If on a winter's night, yes
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Sep 7, 2018 13:52
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I'm finally getting around to reading Charles Dickens: Last of the Great Men by G.K. Chesterton and y'all would love and hate it
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Sep 9, 2018 06:10
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it was the best of books, it was the worst of books
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Sep 9, 2018 06:16
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newly translated mishima coming out this november, the frolic of the beasts. still waiting on kyoko's house.....
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MystOpportunity posted:Would be fun to survey the fictional reference/compendium/anthology genre. What else is there? Nazi Literature in the Americas, some Borges, maybe Pale Fire depending on the parameters. J.G. Ballard did some stuff in that vein, but they were short stories rather than actual novels. The ones I'm thinking of were collected in War Fever, I think, but I swapped that for the rat-killing monster Complete Stories collection.
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Nostos posted:newly translated mishima coming out this november, the frolic of the beasts. still waiting on kyoko's house..... 
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