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Smiling Jack posted:What is a violent felony in some states may not even be a crime in others. It makes establishing and evaluating police departments very difficult. Whoa, can you cite an example of this? That's whack.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Use of force varies by jurisdiction. It can even vary on the
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facialimpediment posted:Also Alex Jones got permabanned from Twitter https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZlWd4gcLQ/ Pro-click with sound on.
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Untagged posted:It can even vary on the Does any other nation do the dual sovereignty thing the way the US does? It seems silly when put this way but its never even struck me as odd until now.
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DoktorLoken posted:Whoa, can you cite an example of this? That's whack. I could own a regular AR-15 with a 30-round mag in Washington(for now), but in California it could be charged as a misdemeanor or felony. Or in Arizona, any amount of weed can result in a felony. VVV Oh yeah, missed that detail. Well you can punch a nazi in some cases and it'll only cost you a dollar 
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Yeah but that's not really a violent crime.
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DoktorLoken posted:Yeah but that's not really a violent crime. The definition of "violent crime" can get a bit weird.
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DoktorLoken posted:https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZlWd4gcLQ/ AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
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I'm not a cop or a lawyer but off the top of my head I think of Stand Your Ground laws where if you shoot someone and piss your pants in one state you could be told to go home and have a nice night while in the other you'll probably be arrested if not charged later. A whole lot of problems with this example but it's the first thing I think of.
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DoktorLoken posted:Whoa, can you cite an example of this? That's whack. NYS PL 240.26, harrassment in the second degree is considered a violation, not a crime and includes quote:S 240.26 Harassment in the second degree. A person is guilty of harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person: 1. He or she strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects such other person to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same; or 2. He or she follows a person in or about a public place or places; or 3. He or she engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which alarm or seriously annoy such other person and which serve no legitimate purpose. Florida law states: quote:784.03 Battery; felony battery.— So, in New York if I slap you in the face but don't cause injury, that's merely Harassment, which is a violation and is not even an arrestable offense unless committed in the presence of a officer. (under NYS penal law, violations rank under misdemeanors and felonies and you can't arrest someone for a violation not occuring in your presence). Florida statues state mere physical contact against your will is battery, a misdemeanor, and a previous battery conviction makes it a felony. Florida: possible felony New York: you probably can't even get arrested for it. Before you go slapping the poo poo outta people in New York do note that if the victim complains of "substantial pain" or you leave a mark, that's assault 3 and we've entered misdemeanor territory. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Sep 6, 2018 |
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DoktorLoken posted:https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZlWd4gcLQ/ A guy his size doing that all the time is gonna give himself either an aneurysm or a heart attack. Hopefully.
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DoktorLoken posted:Whoa, can you cite an example of this? That's whack. Just taking Smiling Jack's and my states as an example, NY Penal Law § 265.11, Criminal Sale of Firearm, 3d degree, classified as a Violent Felony Offense. Not a crime in Oklahoma. Title 21, section 843.1, Oklahoma Statues - financial neglect by caretaker, classified as a violent crime Not a crime in NY. There are tons of laws where one state's violent is another state's misdemeanor. Nystral posted:Does any other nation do the dual sovereignty thing the way the US does? It seems silly when put this way but its never even struck me as odd until now. hobbesmaster posted:The definition of "violent crime" can get a bit weird. Then things get really weird. My state has three separate definitions of violent crime.
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Every state has multiple definitions of murder. Murder by cop (not murder) Murder by white person (regular murder) Murdered by a minority (super murder unless against another minority — then lol what murder?) Murdered by an immigrant (BUILD THE WALL murder)
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Smiling Jack posted:NYS PL 240.26, harrassment in the second degree is considered a violation, not a crime and includes gonna wax on wax off on my slapping technique tia god bless boop the snoot posted:Every state has multiple definitions of murder. Lol
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DoktorLoken posted:https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZlWd4gcLQ/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs edit:  https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1037798526418333696 Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:A guy his size doing that all the time is gonna give himself either an aneurysm or a heart attack. In a just world Alex Jones is shot by a 6 year old and his followers say it was staged and he’s actually a globalist who cashed out. And the Huckabees are eaten alive by a wild pack of family dogs.
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Smiling Jack posted:
Because what we want right now is Trump's Executive Branch to have a monopoly on force. That Works posted:Cool. I hear that thrown around now and then and it sound good on paper (with respect at least to a uniform training standard) but I had no idea how it would actually work and how police actually felt about it. The way to make it work is the same way you push federal policy on states already: withhold federal grant money unless the agency/profession/whatever complies with a set of guidelines.
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Godholio posted:Because what we want right now is Trump's Executive Branch to have a monopoly on force. Another great reason to do away with State sovereignty. Don't forget that doing so will also make the presidential pardon applicable to every crime and every prosecution.
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joat mon posted:Another great reason to do away with State sovereignty. Don't forget that doing so will also make the presidential pardon applicable to every crime and every prosecution. Only united can the Landsraad stand against the Emperor.
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Let's put all national power in the hands of the feds, but make them super promise they'll be good first, and that they'll never become bad.
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all the better reason to start disarming the cops and drastically slash the military
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https://twitter.com/funder/status/1037789962958241793 I don't know how true this is though, could be bullshit
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In south carolina all the assault and battery statutes specify "or offering or attempting to [conditions for x degree A&B] Also the spousal rape law explicitly excludes wives < 14 years old Why the gently caress do I stil live here
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boop the snoot posted:Every state has multiple definitions of murder. lmao
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In SCOTUS talk, there's this tidbit: List of Democratic SCOTUS nominees confirmed by a GOP senate since 1895: Rufus Peckham in 1895 List of GOP SCOTUS nominees confirmed by Democratic senate since 1895: Thomas, Souter, Kennedy, Stevens, Rehnquist, Powell, Blackmun, Carswell, Haynsworth, Burger, Stewart, Whittaker, Brennan Of course, some of those GOP Presidential picks really didn't work out the way the nominating presidents expected.
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Republicans didn't figure out how to properly racism until '64 tho so take those figures with salt
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an important question to ask here is why was he waiting three years for trial NYC courts are super hosed up
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But I thought President Good Brains was going to be the best witness
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my god we've finally surpassed realfakedoors dot com 
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God drat kamala Harris
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i am going to be furious if i die in a pile of my own filth instead of in the warm embrace of the atom
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https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1037883056252694528 I would say he is drunk but, he is a teetotaler
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1037883056252694528 Peetotaler
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NYT is doing an interesting thing where they're conducting polls and compiling the data in real-time here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/elections-polls.html It's a really fascinating look into how the polling sausage is made and some of the problems that show up with traditional, gold-standard phone polling. https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1037891388401180672?s=19
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Honestly they probably should forget polling and just 219 scam all of the 1/700th of millenials who are credible enough to answer a cold call in TYOOL 2018. Newspaper biz ain't so hot, take your revenue where you find it.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...tent=edit-promoquote:There are other passages in Woodward’s book, a copy of which was obtained by The Atlantic ahead of its release next week, that bolster this representation of Mattis. Woodward writes, for example, that the president “scared the daylights” out of Mattis and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Joseph Dunford in January—around the time Trump was engaged in a nuclear button–measuring contest with Kim Jong Un—by proposing that he declare on Twitter that he would be evacuating all family members of U.S. troops from South Korea, which North Korean leaders would likely have interpreted as a clear sign that war was imminent. The tweet was never sent. 
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