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The Oscars people said they aren't going to do the "Best Popular Film" category. Probably because not a single person liked it.
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Surely everyone involved in a Marvel movie liked it?
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Sep 6, 2018 22:00
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No. They submitted Black Panther to best film category and ignored the popular category.
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Sep 6, 2018 22:03
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Mu Zeta posted:No. They submitted Black Panther to best film category and ignored the popular category. if it wins then the theory that the film's a psy-op becomes suddenly way more plausible (not saying it's a bad movie, it's good as hell, though not as good as some people say imo)
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Sep 6, 2018 22:39
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precision posted:if it wins then the theory that the film's a psy-op becomes suddenly way more plausible Like many marvel movies it's dragged down by having the climax be uninteresting CGI-on-CGI garbage. It surprised me after Homecoming and Ragnarok to see such a blatant step backwards again.
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Sep 6, 2018 22:47
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Yeah, same. Homecoming and Ragnarok are both generally better movies, Black Panther relies too much on spectacle (but I mean, that car chase scene WAS fuckin' good as gently caress)
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Sep 6, 2018 23:01
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Black Panther is the best MCU movie
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Sep 6, 2018 23:02
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Black Panther is maybe my favourite MCU movie and it's certainly from an intellectual level the best. It's got so much to say about race and a standard Marvel CGI finish doesn't change that.
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Sep 6, 2018 23:04
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I disagree pretty hard that it has anything interesting to say about race. I'm not disputing it says things about race, but I don't think what it says is anywhere near as interesting as people make it out to be. I think that Homecoming had much more interesting things to say about class.
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Sep 6, 2018 23:07
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I haven't seen Black Panther yet, but I imagine it is very good for a Marvel movie. Which means it still isn't close to Best Picture tier lmbo
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Sep 6, 2018 23:16
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esperterra posted:I haven't seen Black Panther yet, but I imagine it is very good for a Marvel movie. Which means it still isn't close to Best Picture tier lmbo It's on Netflix as of yesterday 
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Sep 6, 2018 23:20
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Black Panther and Best Picture have the same initials. It's preordained.
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Sep 6, 2018 23:24
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less laughter posted:Black Panther and Best Picture have the same initials. It's preordained. So does Bird Poop and Butt Place
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Sep 6, 2018 23:26
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Iron Crowned posted:It's on Netflix as of yesterday I think it's been on Canadian Netflix for a while lmao. I just tend to not watch Marvel movies til it's 2am on a random night and I'm very bored. Unless there's like a Cate Blanchett or Michelle Pfeiffer in the cast ngl Disobedience should win Best Picture but I imagine it won't be nominated for anything anyway lmao
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Sep 6, 2018 23:27
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Iron Crowned posted:So does Bird Poop and Butt Place We weren't talking about your autobiography.
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Sep 6, 2018 23:28
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less laughter posted:Black Panther and Best Picture have the same initials. It's preordained. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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Sep 7, 2018 00:11
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I'd say that Black Panther was super awesome and is really great I can see why it won't win because it's more of a "movie" than a "film". Meh whatever. I still think that Captain America II: Winter Soldier was their best "film" if marvel even had one (they don't, they're just fun). It was way closer to safe genres like a spy thriller than being seen as a dumb superhero flick. Personally, I feel the pearl clutching about "Best popular film" vs "Best Picture" is whiny poo poo. The Oscars have been losing ratings for years and they need to do something for ratings. I know no one likes it but it's a business when you get down to it at this point. No one in hollywood cares about the "sanctimony of film" when there's a big fat paycheck otherwise so why do I care what categories they give each other. Has everyone forgotten that the Oscars are basically just Hollywood giving themselves blowjobs?
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Sep 7, 2018 01:07
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Agree re: Winter Soldier. I qualify that as a good movie not just a good Marvel movie tbh
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Sep 7, 2018 01:11
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I love comic book films, well the good ones anyway, and there has never been a comic book film made that should’ve been nominated for Best Picture in any year. Even if you had 10 slots every year. Sorry it’s just the truth.
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That's the tea imho
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Sep 7, 2018 01:25
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There were a couple of comic book movies worthy of acting nods though. Obviously The Dark Knight. I think there were some nonimnation caliber performances in Logan for sure. Chris Reeve for the original Superman. Of course Adam West was robbed in ‘66.
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Sep 7, 2018 01:28
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I mean if we're counting poo poo like Ghost World it opens it up a lot more, but I assume this convo is mostly about superhero stuff.
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esperterra posted:I mean if we're counting poo poo like Ghost World it opens it up a lot more, but I assume this convo is mostly about superhero stuff. Well of course. When people say comic book movie they mean Spider-Man and not Road to Perdition.
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Sep 7, 2018 01:32
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Mu Zeta posted:They're going all-in on Jack Ryan The series is so bland and mediocre. Should have spent some of that ad money to make a better show instead.  X-O posted:I love comic book films, well the good ones anyway, and there has never been a comic book film made that should’ve been nominated for Best Picture in any year. Even if you had 10 slots every year. Sorry it’s just the truth. A History of Violence  but seriously I agree.
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Sep 7, 2018 02:23
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Arist posted:Black Panther is the best MCU movie It's a contender for sure, but Thor Ragnarok has it beat on almost every level. Saying that though, i wouldn't mind T'Challa reading me to sleep everynight.
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Sep 7, 2018 02:43
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precision posted:I disagree pretty hard that it has anything interesting to say about race. I'm not disputing it says things about race, but I don't think what it says is anywhere near as interesting as people make it out to be. The strongest statement made about race in Black Panther is Killmonger's final line. I think it's probably one of the best lines in any of the Marvel movies to date.
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Sep 7, 2018 03:25
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X-O posted:I love comic book films, well the good ones anyway, and there has never been a comic book film made that should’ve been nominated for Best Picture in any year. Even if you had 10 slots every year. Sorry it’s just the truth. Birdman was a superhero film, that won best pic.
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Sep 7, 2018 03:50
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asecondduck posted:Birdman was a superhero film, that won best pic. Yes, because Birdman was an actual, crime fighting hero in the world of that film.
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Sep 7, 2018 04:02
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I think Disney would be plenty happy with Black Panther just being nominated for Best Picture. Winning the prize for popular film feels worthless in comparison.
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Sep 7, 2018 04:21
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precision posted:if it wins then the theory that the film's a psy-op becomes suddenly way more plausible Don’t read CD.
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Sep 7, 2018 05:27
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Elon Musk is live on Joe Rogan
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Sep 7, 2018 05:58
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Black Panther was completely unremarkable. I only watched it for the first time a few weeks ago and I can't remember a single thing about it. Pretty much the standard Marvel movie experience. The exception is the last Thor movie which was much better than the rest of them.
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Sep 7, 2018 06:56
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smh https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1037827672187912192
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Sep 7, 2018 08:37
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Hey guys, just popped in to watch Iron Fist Season 2
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Sep 7, 2018 08:54
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Iron Crowned posted:I feel like there is 3 things I"m excited for on network TV this season: Superstore, The Good Place, and Bob's Burgers. This is what I'm looking forward to most of all too.
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Sep 7, 2018 08:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVuHiga0_2c Lee, Tropper and Lin... A holy trinity 
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Sep 7, 2018 10:06
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:A History of Violence Actually did get an Oscar nomination for acting, but not for Viggo Mortensen, surprisingly (it was William Hurt for Best Supporting Actor). Same with Road to Perdition actually - Paul Newman was nominated for the same award for that one. Surprised it didn't get more, actually, since as X-O mentioned it's not exactly what comes to mind when people say "comic book movie" (also because it was Sam Mendes's next movie after the one he won his Oscars for).
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Sep 7, 2018 10:13
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Logan was nominated for Best Screenplay.
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less laughter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVuHiga0_2c It's about time Ultimate Warrior got a series.
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Rhyno posted:Yes, because Birdman was an actual, crime fighting hero in the world of that film. Sorry, I forgot the  at the end of the post.
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