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It makes plenty of sense to have such a configuration in front of your manor house in ye olden times because nobody wants to back up a horse-drawn carriage. And now it stuck as a thing for the rich.Javid posted:A pull-through driveway would rule to have, honestly You can have a pull through driveway without the pomp.
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I can see how that'd be a little quality of life improvement.
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A straight driveway with a loop takes up less of your yard space than a u-shape.
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My rich distant relatives have a loop like that but as far as I know it's purely decorative and doesn't actually get used for anything.
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For a brief period growing up we lived in a house with a loop driveway (foreclosures yay), my dad loved it with his big pickup and trailer but it really shone when we hosted big family get togethers; a dozen cars in the driveway and no one was even blocked in, let alone spilling over onto the street. Things changed and we moved back into a more standard house after like 4 years, but drat I wish I'd been older to better appreciate how dope that house was. Honestly for a 3.6k sqft. house it was actually fairly restrained as floorplans go, basically just two normal ranch homes jammed together, although the back porch/pool enclosure was pretty drat huge. 
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Azza Bamboo posted:I can see how that'd be a little quality of life improvement. Note that none of those loops would actually be used by the residents, the garages are all well-removed from them. It's purely for their guests, or the pretense of having guests who would care.
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I don't think it means they don't use the loops. I think there are two other possibilities: either they don't use the garages (because they're crammed full of poo poo) or they use the loop sometimes and the garage sometimes. In an ideal world that's what I'd do, just pull up in front of the house and park in between running errands or whatever everyday stuff, but be able to pull around back to unload a big grocery shopping, and have the option of parking in the garage when the weather's about to make a mess.
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100% guaranteed the HOA you know exists there explicitly prohibits parking cars anywhere but inside a garage. I’m sure I sound argumentative to the optimists among you but none of the loops in that aerial view serve any sort of utilitarian purposes.
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Bad Munki posted:Note that none of those loops would actually be used by the residents, the garages are all well-removed from them. It's purely for their guests, or the pretense of having guests who would care. I don't think it's even for guests, they have them because a traffic island in your driveway is what (their idea of a) a Rich Person House is supposed to have.
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Sep 7, 2018 06:59
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it's so the landscaper service can pull through with the trailer with the riding mower on it without blocking the owner from getting his Porsche out of the five-car garage
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Bad Munki posted:It makes plenty of sense to have such a configuration in front of your manor house in ye olden times because nobody wants to back up a horse-drawn carriage. And now it stuck as a thing for the rich. They are known as carriage driveways for exactly this reason. Makes sense for old rich people as you guests won't be driving their own carriage so they can be driven right up to the door for the party and then the driver can just carry on to wherever they wait. Because rich people used to have them they have stuck on because that's what rich people have even if the reason for their existence doesn't apply anymore. Same reason lush green lawns are so popular in America even where they are not suited to the local environment. Wealthy Europeans had nice big lawns so wealthy Americans wanted them and were initially the only people who could afford to keep them. Then when they became more affordable people wanted them because that's what wealthy people did and they wanted to look more wealthy.
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kid sinister posted:
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Ebola Dog posted:They are known as carriage driveways for exactly this reason. Makes sense for old rich people as you guests won't be driving their own carriage so they can be driven right up to the door for the party and then the driver can just carry on to wherever they wait. Because rich people used to have them they have stuck on because that's what rich people have even if the reason for their existence doesn't apply anymore. I do still find them convenient in some situations but yes you're right that most of their use is now gone, outside of hotel drop-off points.
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They're a god damned necessity for a house that was built on small local road that eventually became large 4 lane monster.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wranglerhouse. The Greasy Wrangler.
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Ebola Dog posted:They are known as carriage driveways for exactly this reason. Makes sense for old rich people as you guests won't be driving their own carriage so they can be driven right up to the door for the party and then the driver can just carry on to wherever they wait. Because rich people used to have them they have stuck on because that's what rich people have even if the reason for their existence doesn't apply anymore. This is also the logic behind every stupid design decision in Australia. What would Europe do? Well, really it's more What would Europe do 300 years ago? Steep sloped roofs with little overhang to get rid of snow? Not useful in a desert. Also, no overhang means the sun shines directly on the sides of the house causing your house to turn into an oven. Lawns. Waterfeatures. Gardens made from European plants. Things which require tonnes of water and are incredibly stupid in a country which is 90% desert. Even cars aren't immune. Pity every poor fool who buys a car with a moon roof. A great idea if you're buying during the colder months, but when summer hits and the temperature gets to 45ş you are going to burn. Every car, even those built here, has the European style large heater/tiny aircon. Works great if you live in a country whose idea of summer consists of not having to piss through a layer of ice when you go to the toilet in the morning, not so good in a country where winter just means fewer bushfires. But in all those things, people have decided that's what's cool. No matter what reality is, be it construction, transport or fashion, style overrules all. There's no thinking why these design decisions are what they are. Just X is cool and posh, therefore I shall do X, too! Bloody cargo cult bullshit. It's how you end up with houses with a thousand roofs and fifty different styles of window. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Megillah Gorilla posted:There's no thinking why these design decisions are what they are. Just X is cool and posh, therefore I shall do X, too! Bloody cargo cult bullshit. I think this is a very hard pattern of thinking to get out of, even to those of us who think about this sort of thing a lot. I know when designing my house I made a lot of choices that felt right at the time, but I later came to realise were either unimportant or misguided.
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While there are certainly easier and less "gaudy" things that you can do to a driveway to accomplish it, I am not going to crab about driveways that don't make people have to back out. I live on a 55mph country road and there's a hill going down on one side that makes it hard for traffic to see my driveway unless they're nearly on top of it. I always tell my guests to pull out forward because of that lest they get creamed. It's exacerbated by crotch rockets going 140mph in the summer sometimes. Just in general unless you're on a no-traffic street it's a lot safer to pull out forward if possible. I realize it's a trafficless cul-de-sac in the picture we were talking about but the principle stands.
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Yeah, I try to make room in my driveway so delivery trucks can turn around. The speed limit is supposed to be 35 MPH but people often go much faster, and there's a combo slight-turn/hill crest from one direction that severely limits visibility. Luckily the top parking spot can hold two cars end-to-end if I put the back wheels at the edge of the blacktop, the second spot could hold three small cars side-by-side if they're really friendly, and the bottom of the driveway has turnaround room (though you wouldn't want accidentally to put a wheel of the edge).
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Brute Squad posted:Straight Outta C-SPAM Trading Spaces making a come back?
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Steep sloped roofs with little overhang to get rid of snow? Not useful in a desert. Also, no overhang means the sun shines directly on the sides of the house causing your house to turn into an oven. Speaking as a Californian, I feel obligated to point out that California is not representative of the rest of the country. Most of the US is either grassland or deciduous forest, with mostly just California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada as the primarily-desert states. Head out to the eastern US and you're going to see an awful lot of greenery, assuming there's no snow obstructing your view. I mean, I'm not saying that people don't make a lot of dumb decisions based on what they think richness looks like. They're just not always quite as spectacularly ill-advised as you describe. 
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Megillah Gorilla posted:
You mean without a moon roof right? Because there is no faster way to cool a sunbaked hothouse car down to ambient than opening the chimney and windows at the same time.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:This is also the logic behind every stupid design decision in Australia. I'll have you know there's quite a bit of desert in Iberia, so you really just imported ideas from the wrong Europeans
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shame on an IGA posted:You mean without a moon roof right? Because there is no faster way to cool a sunbaked hothouse car down to ambient than opening the chimney and windows at the same time. Also, every moon roof I've seen has an opaque panel that you can slide out to cover the glass completely. Moon roofs own in the hot summers. e: leather seats otoh...
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Why do you call them moonroofs instead of sunroofs?
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Because Australia
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From what I understand the difference used to be that sunroofs are just the glass panel you can crack open, but not slide open. Moonroofs slide open, and have the panel that can slide in to block the sun. Now days I think they are all the same and used interchangably.
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I always thought that a sunroof is the one you could crack open and slide back and the moon roof was just having your roof panel replaced by glass. I'm also probably wrong, as a quick google shows. EDIT: I was apparently thinking of a panoramic sunroof. 
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Sep 7, 2018 16:54
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I need a car I can grow hot-house tomatoes and tropical plants in.
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shame on an IGA posted:You mean without a moon roof right? Because there is no faster way to cool a sunbaked hothouse car down to ambient than opening the chimney and windows at the same time. Spoken like someone without a station wagon/hatchback.  (I realize this requires way more effort than sitting in the drivers seat pushing buttons.)
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 No idea where or what this is. I found it randomly on facebook... and immediately fell down the stairs, even though I wasn't even on stairs when I first saw the pic. When I got up I knew I had to post it here. EDIT: and a crane splits a house in half... https://www.wdsu.com/article/crane-falls-onto-baldwin-park-home-splitting-home-in-two/22994941 FrankeeFrankFrank fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Sep 7, 2018 17:18
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FrankeeFrankFrank posted:
https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/18752
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Thanks for the new rabbithole 
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kid sinister posted:
Maybe they sewed the pockets shut before they put them on the stairs. Then I think about this thread, and I know the answer. RIP Wranglerhouse owner. FrankeeFrankFrank posted:
Someone needs to start the "Stairs with threatening auras" twitter.
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FrankeeFrankFrank posted:
Reddit is poo poo, but redditery lets you just look at the pictures from each subreddit. r/abandoned porn despite its name is actually about abadoned buildings and is incredibly cool. They had that abandoned button factory featured a week or so ago if you feel like drilling through a few hundred cool photos of decaying stuff.
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Speaking as a tall gently caress, when they figure out how to make a sun/moon/jupiter roof without lowering the internal cabin height and eating up precious cm of headroom, I'll consider buying one.
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Lazlo Nibble posted:This one is 100% lifted straight out of the 1967 edition of Sunset Magazine’s Ideas for Planning Your New Home.   
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"Its walls are masonry and glass" so... an ordinary exterior wall.
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Fender Anarchist posted:Speaking as a tall gently caress, when they figure out how to make a sun/moon/jupiter roof without lowering the internal cabin height and eating up precious cm of headroom, I'll consider buying one. Don't anyway. They're poo poo.
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