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In Warhammer 40k part of the story fluff lore is that one time some human faction captured and studied some the Space Orks and when they opened up one of their guns there was nothing inside but like loose screws and tinfoil. It turns out the Orks are extremely powerful psychics and all of their technology and weapons work because they all just believe they work. Pete is that gun
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Intel&Sebastian posted:In Warhammer 40k part of the story fluff lore is that one time some human faction captured and studied some the Space Orks and when they opened up one of their guns there was nothing inside but like loose screws and tinfoil. It turns out the Orks are extremely powerful psychics and all of their technology and weapons work because they all just believe they work. Ork fans get really mad when you bring this up, so checks out
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Sep 7, 2018 18:10
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Intel&Sebastian posted:In Warhammer 40k part of the story fluff lore is that one time some human faction captured and studied some the Space Orks and when they opened up one of their guns there was nothing inside but like loose screws and tinfoil. It turns out the Orks are extremely powerful psychics and all of their technology and weapons work because they all just believe they work. 
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Sep 7, 2018 18:10
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Russ clearly doesn’t pay his PR team enough. Those people should all own islands at this point
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Sep 7, 2018 18:19
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Ork fans get really mad when you bring this up, so checks out wtf that's like my single favorite thing about wh40k (as someone who like barely follows it at all).
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Sep 7, 2018 18:26
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shirts and skins posted:Considering that there are 7 billion people on Earth and like 20 decent or better NFL quarterbacks, pretty much yeah. Agree with this take. The old squad got old and busted. Which is sad because those were some fun squads. RWBS certainly saved the defense on plenty of occasions just like the defense saved RW on several occasions. The whole RW vs Marshawn borderline conspiracy seems so contrived or simply off the mark to me. What superbowl caliber coach is going to earnestly try to funnel the MVP to one player vs another when the game is on the line, especially with the likelihood that bevell called the play anyway and not pete (we all know pete is the defense guy)? Whether people like it or not RW is definitely the future of the seahawks for the next 5 years at least. If players were not buying into the system/rhetoric then I am happy they are gone so at least there can be more team cohesion and development moving forward. I think over the long run that will translate into a better and winning football team. And of course those players cut loose gonna be mad about it which leads to these hot takes.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:35
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On one hand, if there's one guy who probably should get shielded from criticism it should be your top 5 QB. On the other hand lol Russell Wilson is a giant baby.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:38
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His christian childbrain allows him to block out distractions like drugs, gambling, what his wife and Future probably got up to before they met.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:49
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Intel&Sebastian posted:wtf that's like my single favorite thing about wh40k (as someone who like barely follows it at all). Same, I love that Orks are apparently such powerful latent psychics that their red vehicles actually get an in-game speed bonus because Orks believe that the red ones are faster.
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Sep 7, 2018 18:52
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Wilson is one of the best QB's in the league, secret android or not. Of course we are going to build the team around him.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:02
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I'll defend Russell Wilson until I see a video of him open mouth kissing his son.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:11
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Peachfart posted:Wilson is one of the best QB's in the league, secret android or not. Of course we are going to build the team around him. Yea, he’s good. The argument isn’t that he’s not the answer long term, it’s that a team with a top 10 QB and a historically good defensive run could and probably should have more than one super bowl to show for it, and the fact that they don’t is on the coaching staff not managing things better.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:16
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What, the franchise quarterback who we're paying a ton of money to is getting special treatment? why i never. After reading the article I'm more shocked that Bennett actually understood that and defended Russell, I always thought that Bennett hated him. Also, Russell was one of the only good players all of last year, if richard is going to call him out he needs to say how poorly he played.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:18
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God drat it's obviously not about Wilson it's about Pete. Of course the team will build around their franchise quarterback, that's what you do. But is Pete the right guy to start that rebuild? Imo no, you've gotten as much from Pete as you're going to. Also shielding a QB from criticism is loving weak rear end bullshit and bad coaching. I've seen like three different justifications for it on here but really it's not good Play fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Sep 7, 2018 19:20
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Also, Wilson is a snitch, no wonder dudes hated him.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:25
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In the article it says that richard wanted to go and confront Russell, not Pete, so it is also about Russell as well
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Sep 7, 2018 19:26
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I think there's a difference between "special treatment" and telling your team full of players who don't hold back from criticizing each other and have built a team culture around it to not criticize the new, expensive QB.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:28
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Yea, he’s good. The argument isn’t that he’s not the answer long term, it’s that a team with a top 10 QB and a historically good defensive run could and probably should have more than one super bowl to show for it, and the fact that they don’t is on the coaching staff not managing things better. It is super duper hard for a team to win a superbowl, even if the team is better than their opposition. Football is a high variance sport. Outside of the Patriots, nobody in the modern NFL really has continued super bowl appearances. And let's not gloss over the fact that the AFC is weak, and the AFC East is comically weak. The Hawks were one throw away from repeating as Superbowl champs. On a play that the defense had never successfully stopped in practice.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:28
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Play posted:God drat it's obviously not about Wilson it's about Pete. Of course the team will build around their franchise quarterback, that's what you do. But is Pete the right guy to start that rebuild? Imo no, you've gotten as much from Pete as you're going to. "Coach who rebuilt a team into a perennial super bowl contender is not the right coach to rebuild this team." Hmm, yes, yes, you make a good point.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:30
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Basically the only thing that is outright wrong with the Seahawks is that they spent the least of any team in the league on OL and got what they paid for. All this other poo poo is a masterclass in why teams shouldn't leak to the media.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:30
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Basically the only thing that is outright wrong with the Seahawks is that they spent the least of any team in the league on OL and got what they paid for. Agreed. If Seattle doesn't trade away Unger and a first for Graham, the team has more success. If Seattle at any point replaced Cable with a decent OL coach, the team has more success. But they didn't and r.i.p.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:32
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i can definitely see why russell would be annoying to team mates he seems really fake and just pushes the "brand", that being said he's a good quarterback and can help you win a game you need to be a professional and do your thing without letting that get to you or making the team toxic
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Sep 7, 2018 19:33
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It’s also the implication that Russell Wilson essentially demanded the special treatment by tattling on people who were mean to him. And of course, https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/status/1038128300609089537 Coldforge fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Sep 7, 2018 19:34
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Do it ironically posted:In the article it says that richard wanted to go and confront Russell, not Pete, so it is also about Russell as well The story is about Russell but the functional question at the heart of the story is about Pete. No one is going to suggest cutting Russ just because he's a snitch and a whiney coward, he's definitely good enough so that's not a question. Pete is the one who allowed all of this to happen. JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:"Coach who rebuilt a team into a perennial super bowl contender is not the right coach to rebuild this team." "If an enormously complex and unlikely thing happens one time, of course it will happen again and only one variable needs to stay the same." Hmm, yes, yes, you make a good point as well. Pete is a bad coach who has no respect from veteran players whatsoever and is better suited to coaching in college. He's also a likely chud and a misogynist and he'll be gone within a few years, before the Seahawks sniff the super bowl again. I will never be silenced on this issue, I'm trying to help you guys but you're too homerish to accept it. gently caress Pete Carroll.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:42
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Play posted:The story is about Russell but the functional question at the heart of the story is about Pete. No one is going to suggest cutting Russ just because he's a snitch and a whiney coward, he's definitely good enough so that's not a question. Pete is the one who allowed all of this to happen. lmfao
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Sep 7, 2018 19:43
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This guy is too corny for me, send me to the team where the MAGA hatted QB keeps kissing his son and coach on the mouth or the one that just won a super bowl with a guy studying to be a pastor at Liberty University
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Sep 7, 2018 19:49
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Intel&Sebastian posted:His christian childbrain allows him to block out distractions like drugs, gambling, what his wife and Future probably got up to before they met. Something something 1st Corinthians 13:11
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Sep 7, 2018 19:55
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Play posted:"If an enormously complex and unlikely thing happens one time, of course it will happen again and only one variable needs to stay the same." What's your strategy, hire somebody who's never achieved success in the NFL because you define success as a fluke? Play posted:Pete is a bad coach who has no respect from veteran players whatsoever and is better suited to coaching in college. He's also a likely chud and a misogynist and he'll be gone within a few years, before the Seahawks sniff the super bowl again. I will never be silenced on this issue, I'm trying to help you guys but you're too homerish to accept it. gently caress Pete Carroll. He's actually a good coach who is excellent at developing defensive talent. Like what coaches do you think are available that would be an upgrade over him? Pete is clearly in the tier of good coaches that are worse than Bill Belichick but better than almost everyone else.
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Sep 7, 2018 19:56
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:If a bunch of coaches and FO's cannot do it, then the fact that Pete did do it is support for him. You loving idiot. i dont think you understand, he had jordan peterson speak to the team!!! RIP Seahawks
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Sep 7, 2018 20:00
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drat that shitpost really brought the homers out of the woodwork lol
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Sep 7, 2018 20:09
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Thread continues to deliver.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:09
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Play posted:Pete is a bad coach who has no respect from veteran players whatsoever and is better suited to coaching in college. He's also a likely chud and a misogynist and he'll be gone within a few years, before the Seahawks sniff the super bowl again. I will never be silenced on this issue, I'm trying to help you guys but you're too homerish to accept it. gently caress Pete Carroll. I respect a lot of your insights on here and agree that Pete has his problems (gently caress Jordan Peterson), but I think the burden of proof is pretty high on you here if you're going to call him a "bad coach". The dude was just a hair away from his sixth straight double digit win season. How many coaches have managed that, ever? This is a league that still employs Marvin Lewis. Pat Shurmur just got another head coaching job. Pete may or may not be on the decline but he's by far and away the best coach this team has ever had. I'm gonna need a few years in the wilderness before I'll believe he's done, and even still I'm not gonna call him a "bad coach". Play posted:drat that shitpost really brought the homers out of the woodwork lol Eh, if this is just kekeke level trolling then never mind.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:13
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Coldforge posted:Thread continues to deliver.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:13
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shirts and skins posted:I respect a lot of your insights on here and agree that Pete has his problems (gently caress Jordan Peterson), but I think the burden of proof is pretty high on you here if you're going to call him a "bad coach". The dude was just a hair away from his sixth straight double digit win season. How many coaches have managed that, ever? This is a league that still employs Marvin Lewis. Pat Shurmur just got another head coaching job. hes is an actual dumbass
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Sep 7, 2018 20:15
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Play posted:The story is about Russell but the functional question at the heart of the story is about Pete. No one is going to suggest cutting Russ just because he's a snitch and a whiney coward, he's definitely good enough so that's not a question. Pete is the one who allowed all of this to happen. Lol @ this post. Pete is a chud but he is still a decent coach.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:20
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The issue is that pete created a double standard. He fostered this hyper-competetive environment in the defense - promoted it, created it, encouraged it - while having a double standard for the offense and especially for the QB. Eventually his excellent defense figured out that he was being a huge hypocrite and he lost their confidence and support. The fact that this system worked for his defense, and for his QB, isn't really the problem, and he got a superbowl before that crew all recognized and understood the incongruity and inconsistency between what Coach Pete was saying, and what he was actually doing. I don't have much sympathy for any of these people really. The legion of boom swallowed a bunch of horseshit about how the best man gets the job, always, and about how an NFL team could work, when it was never actually true. If it bolstered their teamwork and confidence for a while, that doesn't really change the fact. And then being huge crybabies all the goddamn time (particularly Sherman) once they understood that Caroll's coachspeak bullshit was just coachspeak bullshit. Pete Carroll without question has been an excellent coach in several respects; you cannot win a superbowl with an all-around bad coach. But he created a situation in his locker room that was poisonous, and as the poison spread, he didn't do what he needed to do to fix it, and that has undermined everything. That's on him. It was easy to ignore when they were winning, but he shouldn't have. That said; everyone else in that locker room who imagined that a modern NFL football team could in any way be a pure meritocracy was loving delusional.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:20
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Peachfart posted:Lol @ this post. Pete is a chud but he is still a decent coach. I'd, reluctantly, agree with this. He has his flaws as a human being and is probably being aged out as a coach, but he's still at least a decent one. And Leperfish loving nailed it.
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Sep 7, 2018 20:23
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Leperflesh posted:Pete Carroll without question has been an excellent coach in several respects; you cannot win a superbowl with an all-around bad coach. 
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Sep 7, 2018 20:23
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Coaches tend to decline in ability because of the simple fact that they work inhuman hours. It's very rarely sustainable for years on end.
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Just imagine thinking Jordan Peterson could teach anything to a room of world class athletes who have sacrificed their bodies and dedicated their lives to the perfection of their craft.
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