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Kitala
Sep 2, 2012

Not Some Opera Floozy

When I saw the box art for this one, I was excited about the spunky female lead we’d have. Alas, it’s an even worse Armand instead. rear end in a top hat who made his girlfriend leave her job to run his restaurant can’t be bothered to make coffee for a week.

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Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
I'm now imagining Armand was killed by Omnifoods and Delia is talking to the giant painting.

Because Armand, for all his idiocy, knows drat well how important dumb sidequests for specialty ingredients are.

Zagglezig
Oct 16, 2012
Considering how often Armand ran off somewhere and had someone take over for him in the first game, it seems especially mean of him to not even suggest asking his Uncle or someone else they trust for business stuff.
Also, since we seem to be focusing more on Delia in this game, I kinda hope, but doubt, that we'll see her aunt and maybe get the old grocery store in our wholesale lineup (though looking back at the first game, her aunt is also named Deila, so that pretty much throws that slim chance right out the window).

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


lofi posted:

:ohdear: ...and the civets, I guess.

They force-feed them the coffee to farm it? But I thought the whole rationale behind the poop coffee wasn't the fact that passing through their digestive system made it better? I could've sworn I heard some reasoning like... the wild civets were doing all the intensely detailed manual work to select the best-looking or ripest ones to eat for themselves, so picking the beans out from what they ate was this awesome selection process or something. Is that right?

I mean, it would not be surprising in the least if someone noticed that "poop coffee = expensive gimmick" and then proceeded to do this ridiculous process that spoils the whole point for no tangible benefit other than their profit... but goddamn

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008

Enchanted Hat posted:

French breakfast
French appetizers
French soups
French main courses
French desserts

Italian breakfast
Italian appetizers
Italian soups
Italian main courses
Italian desserts

American breakfast
American appetizers
American soups
American main courses
American desserts

Coffee shop hot coffee
Coffee shop iced coffee
Coffee shop tea
Coffee shop other drinks
Coffee shop food

Let's have:
Coffee Shop Tea
Coffee Shop Food
American Soups
American Desserts
French Desserts

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Bifauxnen posted:

I mean, it would not be surprising in the least if someone noticed that "poop coffee = expensive gimmick" and then proceeded to do this ridiculous process that spoils the whole point for no tangible benefit other than their profit... but goddamn

:capitalism:

I'm trying very hard not to comment on the story speculation, because seeing it unfold when I played this for the first time was just incredible.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

Does Armand still have his bored Midwesterner voice?

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Coffee shop hot coffee
Coffee shop iced coffee
Coffee shop food
French appetizers
French main courses


I'd also like to negative vote for breakfasts, breakfasts are awful especially since people in this world have apparently never heard of mimosas, bellinis, or bloody marys.

Lastly, holy hell is Armand even worse than last game. Which is impressive, given what a douche canoe you already were, Armand!

Fates End
Oct 17, 2009

Bifauxnen posted:

They force-feed them the coffee to farm it? But I thought the whole rationale behind the poop coffee wasn't the fact that passing through their digestive system made it better? I could've sworn I heard some reasoning like... the wild civets were doing all the intensely detailed manual work to select the best-looking or ripest ones to eat for themselves, so picking the beans out from what they ate was this awesome selection process or something. Is that right?

I mean, it would not be surprising in the least if someone noticed that "poop coffee = expensive gimmick" and then proceeded to do this ridiculous process that spoils the whole point for no tangible benefit other than their profit... but goddamn
That's the claim, but...

Wikipedia posted:

In the coffee industry, kopi luwak is widely regarded as a gimmick or novelty item.[16] The Specialty Coffee Association of America (SCAA) states that there is a "general consensus within the industry ... it just tastes bad". A coffee professional cited in the SCAA article was able to compare the same beans with and without the kopi luwak process using a rigorous coffee cupping evaluation. He concluded: "it was apparent that Luwak coffee sold for the story, not superior quality...Using the SCAA cupping scale, the Luwak scored two points below the lowest of the other three coffees. It would appear that the Luwak processing diminishes good acidity and flavor and adds smoothness to the body, which is what many people seem to note as a positive to the coffee.”

Tim Carman, food writer for the Washington Post reviewed kopi luwak available to US consumers and concluded "It tasted just like...Folgers. Stale. Lifeless. Petrified dinosaur droppings steeped in bathtub water. I couldn't finish it."[17]

Some critics claim more generally that kopi luwak is simply bad coffee, purchased for novelty rather than taste.[16][17][18][19] Massimo Marcone, who performed extensive chemical tests on the beans, was unable to conclude if anything about their properties made them superior for purposes of making coffee. He employed several professional coffee tasters (called "cuppers") in a blind taste test. While the cuppers were able to distinguish the kopi luwak as distinct from the other samples, they had nothing remarkable to appraise about it other than it was less acidic and had less body, tasting "thin". Marcone remarked "It's not that people are after that distinct flavor. They are after the rarity of the coffee".[20]
...which makes it perfect for our business strategy!


DariusLikewise posted:

Armand is definitely going to try and bang the heiress
Nah, she's going to try to (or successfully) steal his restaurants through his pants, leaving Delia and her cafes as the last barricade against her (since Armand drove everyone else out of business), and the rest of the game will be devoted to winning back her husband's heart and his restaurants. At the end of the game, the heiress will rip off her mask, revealing herself to be that evil bearded Omnifood guy from last game.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
As crazy as that seems, Ive heard the actual story is nearly as bad.

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

queserasera posted:

Does Armand still have his bored Midwesterner voice?

The voice actor they used for Restaurant Empire 1 must have cost them upwards of twenty or even twenty-five dollars to hire, and I guess they just couldn't afford to re-hire him for Restaurant Empire 2, as there are no voiced cutscenes. I like to imagine that the answer is "yes", though.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
[b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]
Oh man, my local game store actually has a copy of this. Physical media copy........


Talk me outta buying this

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

bunnyofdoom posted:

Oh man, my local game store actually has a copy of this. Physical media copy........


Talk me outta buying this

The Steam version is only like $5 from shady keysites, so unless it's that cheap, it's probably not a good deal?

idk, I'm probably a bad person to ask, I think this game's pretty great.

Sighence
Aug 26, 2009

Did you just try to weasel out of making you gimped? No no no. Besides, we can only imagine the horrors that await.

all the breakfasts and the tea

lofi
Apr 2, 2018




So can you get at other, non-picture textures? Just... just wondering. No reason.

e:

lofi fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Sep 5, 2018

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008
WAIT WHAT HOLY poo poo I only just noticed the thread tag!
When did that get made? :allears: I can't believe I created such a huge loving thing by not recognising those things as shrimp.

Can we get one of our restaurants to serve this?

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
^ The ingredients list is too realistic for that to ever fly.

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

lofi posted:

So can you get at other, non-picture textures? Just... just wondering. No reason.

e:


Yeah, we can edit basically any texture in the entire game! The problem is that most of the textures are wrapped around complex polygons, so if you just replace them with flat textures, it's going to look weird. I also don't want to go too crazy and edit absolutely everything, as I'd like to actually show off the game as it is.



What the hell are those little curly things on top?

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Enchanted Hat posted:

What the hell are those little curly things on top?

Shrimp. They're like langostinos but smaller.

The_White_Crane
May 10, 2008

Enchanted Hat posted:

Yeah, we can edit basically any texture in the entire game! The problem is that most of the textures are wrapped around complex polygons, so if you just replace them with flat textures, it's going to look weird. I also don't want to go too crazy and edit absolutely everything, as I'd like to actually show off the game as it is.


What the hell are those little curly things on top?

A small pastry. :colbert:

Edit: Actually I did genuinely learn one new thing from that whole saga which was that shrimp and prawns are the same thing -- I thought they were two similar but different species of small edible crustacean.

lofi
Apr 2, 2018




And they have kings!

CourValant
Feb 25, 2016

Do You Remember Love?
Ah yeah, very happy to see the sequel get a LP; this will be my first time seeing it, so, can't wait to experience the top-flight D-Baggery that's about to go down with Armand.

Vote:

American appetizers
Italian main courses
French desserts
Coffee shop iced coffee
Coffee shop food

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances
Episode 4: The one that's 90% recipes

Sweetie, I'm home!

Hey you. How was your trip?



Pretty good. Got some good work done so, yeah, overall I'm happy.

Did you get what you were after?

Uh huh. I was able to set up a contract with this local bean exporter over there. And they've promised a steady shipment of their Kopi Luwak beans to us.

And customs?

I've spoken to them as well. All's good. I don't think they'll give us much grief.

How are the coffee shops?

They're fine. Shops practically run themselves.

I was thinking on the plane over here that since everything seems to be coming together rather well lately – with the new coffee supply, furniture store and whatnot – I thought this might be the perfect time to set up a third café. What do you think?

Well I think at this point, you don't really need to ask for my permission.

I wasn't asking for a go-ahead. I just want to know what your thoughts are.

I think that… as long as the shops are doing well, then you should do whatever it is you feel is right…

…ok… Honey I'm sorry again that I had to dump my responsibilities on you the other day. I didn't really mean to ; it was just that I didn't have much choice at the time and…

No, no. It's fine. I'm just glad everything worked out for you.



Well umm, I gotta go…

Ok… I'll see you later?

Yeah. Bye hon.



Well, that was unusually awkward. Here's the new café! It's pretty much the same as our last café. Don't worry, though, the game is going to slow down with the cafés now, and we'll soon get to see some new cool stuff.



This is the default look of our new café, "Delacourt Rodeo". It's far too sensible. Let me see what I can do.



Okay, I was kind of stumped here, there really isn't much you can do with the modern coffee shop decors. I settled on "vaguely sci-fi library".



I kick Armand out of Delacourt Sunset and put Delia back in her post. I also update all our coffee recipes.



I've replaced our four-star Colombian coffee beans from Laurent's import business with the new five-star Kopi Luwak that Delia sourced. Now absolutely all our coffee is made with Kopi Luwak. That sounds awful, but the game disagrees with me, and now all of our coffee recipes have significantly higher quality ratings.



This is fortunate, as our objectives this mission are to raise the "food" (coffee) ratings of Delacourt Sunset and Delacourt Rodeo to 3.0 and 2.8, respectively. The Kopi Luwak should help us a lot in doing that. In addition to that, we also need to record the first episode of Armand's TV show.

Also, is there some famous French person named Delacourt that these cafés are named after, or are they seriously trying and failing to spell Delia's last name, Delecoeur? I have no idea.



I looked at the suggestions in the thread, and the five most popular recommendations for recipe research were:

- French desserts
- American desserts
- Coffee shop other drinks
- Coffee shop tea
- Coffee shop food

I interpreted votes for the most profitable coffee shop drinks as votes for "other drinks", as they do tend to have excellent profit margins, and I'm hoping that we'll get a recipe that isn't slow to prepare so I can ditch all the other ones.

Speaking of recipes, we got a handful of new recipes when we opened Delacourt Rodeo, which I have included below.








The decaf espresso and iced Americano are really nice, and they'll be even better once we replace the regular coffee beans with Kopi Luwak. The default profit margins are bad, but the really high quality will let us raise our prices, so it should work out pretty well. The orange splash gets an honourable mention for mixing orange juice and milk, which seems like a fantastic idea that absolutely won't result in a disgusting curdled mess.



Now that we've been to Richard's furniture store, our guests will start giving us tips about other furniture wholesalers. At least they'll tell us for free.



This is another new thing introduced in Restaurant Empire 2 to drain your money. Guests will now offer to sell you guidebooks that increase your cooking skill.



While guests in Restaurant Empire 1 would offer to sell you tips on how to prepare specific recipes, this guidebook will increase a chef's skill with every type of coffee shop recipe by 5 percentage points. That's a much better deal, and I'd pretty much always recommend buying these. Delia's our top coffee shop cook/barista, so she gets the bonus.



I buy this ginger cake recipe. Or should I say, this ginger sour cream recipe.



A customer gives me a tip about putting orange wedges and whipped cream in the iced espresso. One the one hand, why? On the other hand, that is 74% recipe quality, I'll happily ruin an iced espresso for that.



Shortly after, I buy this. I have never heard of a "Lamington", but this is by far the worst recipe I've ever seen in this game. And I'm not even sure why! The ingredients are butter, egg, flour, sugar and vanilla, I don't see how you could possibly go wrong with that! It's a mystery.



The month ends, and we're not quite there yet with the quality. Our recipes are quite good at this point, but the barista at Delacourt Rodeo is brand new, so she'll need a couple of months to build up her cooking skill.

But, now that a month has passed, we've gotten one new recipe from each of our research investments!



This is our new American dessert recipe, the very cute heart-shaped blueberry muffins.



This is our new French dessert, the French apple tart, which is a loving insult. Never put this on the menu, ever.



This is our new rose tea. They forgot the tea. This is literally just rose petals in water.



This is the new mixed drink. The quality rating kills most of these recipes, but if we keep investing, we should see some better stuff.



Finally, the new coffee shop food recipe. Wwhen I saw the name "bacon 'n ham cheese sandwiches", I wasn't expecting feta cheese.

The first recipe in any given category only takes a month to research, then each additional recipe takes a bit longer than the previous. We'll probably see another wave of research recipes during the next mission.



Now that we have a bunch of new recipes and the new café is well underway, let's do the TV show!



So Armand, are you ready for this?

As ready as I'll ever be George.

Good, good. You nervous?

As nervous as I'll ever be George.

Haha, don't worry Armand, I'm sure you'll do fine. Just remember that the whole show's future rests on your performance today. Do badly and we'll all blame you.

We'll all be out of a job if I do badly anyway, we probably won't see each other after.

Haha chin up, Armand. Go get 'em.



Good morning everyone! Today marks a very exciting time in my life. My name is Armand Lebouf and this is the inaugural episode of my cooking show…

Of course many of you likely don't recognize me. Don't worry though, that's ok. Right now we may be strangers to each other, but I'm sure we are not strangers to the taste of good food.

Hopefully, as we move along, we'll get to ride on a journey together, a wonderful journey through the world of marvelous-tasting dishes…

Today we will be looking to France for the inspiration for our dishes. And the first meal I will be introducing to you is my delectable mussel appetizer with salmon filling. It's a personal concoction of mine that has been gaining fans in my restaurant lately…



TV means more Bejeweled with a slightly smaller play area. Thankfully, it's not that hard.



One of the more popular dishes in my restaurant is the Beef Tenderloin with Red Wine Sauce.

At my house, this dish is a particular favorite of mine whenever I want to impress guests with my cooking. And by freezing the sauce ahead of time, it can make a dinner party at your home an easy yet elegant experience.



More Bejeweled. Strangely, the previous Bejeweled board had me matching big slabs of beef, even though we were making mussels, and now that we're making beef tenderloin, we're matching mussels? :gamedesign:



Well that's it from all of us here in the studio. I hope you enjoyed our show today and please tune back in with us for our next journey through the world of good food.

Just remember this little train of thought: a dash of creativity and a pinch of variety is the wonderful blend to a satisfied stomach! Good night everyone!



Such a memorable sign-off. With the first episode of the TV show taken care of, I switch the barista from Delia's First Coffee Shop in to sort out the food quality issues at Delacourt Rodeo, and sure enough, it helps us win the mission!

Next mission, we'll be going back to our roots and focusing on Treize à Table. Armand was actually mostly okay this mission, so hopefully he'll keep that decency up for the next one and not do exactly the opposite!

Enchanted Hat fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Sep 24, 2018

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
sincere :wtf: at that bacon, ham, and feta sandwich

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

Enchanted Hat posted:

So Armand, are you ready for this?

As ready as I'll ever be George.

Good, good. You nervous?

As nervous as I'll ever be George.

Armand, you're not a bot, are you?

As robotic as I'll ever be George.

GirlCalledBob
Jul 17, 2013
Lamington is an Australian thing, or so Australian cooking shows tell me. I think it's chocolate cake with coconut around the outside? It sounds better than that miserable rating score, in any case.

Mathwyn
Oct 31, 2012

Ante up.


As an Australian I am intimately familiar with lamingtons! Once of there distinguishing features is that they are covered in coconut sprinkles. Which that recipe contains none of. :psyduck:

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

there's no cinnamon in the cinnamon butter cookies either.

Flamester
Dec 30, 2012
I think the orange splash is supposed to be Morir Soñando, which has the same ingredients, and a lot of ice to stop the curdling. Of course ice doesn't exist in the game world, so please keep serving that horrible curdled milk juice drink to people.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
I can't believe that french guy came in the espresso

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Mathwyn posted:

As an Australian I am intimately familiar with lamingtons! Once of there distinguishing features is that they are covered in coconut sprinkles. Which that recipe contains none of. :psyduck:

As another Australian I concur with these statements and propose the reason the quality of this Lamington is so poo poo is that these French snobs didn’t put any coconut on it.

See, and if it was a proper lamington recipe you’d have the optional jam and cream, but I suspect it’ll be the coconut which is not, in fact, optional for a lamington.

It’s just a sponge cake with a little chocolate coating without the coconut really.

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Robindaybird posted:

there's no cinnamon in the cinnamon butter cookies either.

Cinnamon doesn't exist anymore. Production couldn't keep up with us in Restaurant Empire 1 and now it's extinct.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Its the reason why Armand & Co lost all their property and money between now and then, they just couldn't cope with it.

I'm surprised Treize à Table wasn't torched by our mafioso friends after the first game for the insurance money.

GirlCalledBob
Jul 17, 2013

MaxieSatan posted:

Cinnamon doesn't exist anymore. Production couldn't keep up with us in Restaurant Empire 1 and now it's extinct.

Not true, the blueberry muffins have a whole .1 tsp of cinnamon in.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Enchanted Hat posted:

The orange splash gets an honourable mention for mixing orange juice and milk, which seems like a fantastic idea that absolutely won't result in a disgusting curdled mess.

: CURDLED ORANGE MILK. IT SPEAKS TO ME, I MUST HAVE IT.

Enchanted Hat posted:

This is our new French dessert, the French apple tart, which is a loving insult. Never put this on the menu, ever.

: LOVELY, I WILL NO DOUBT WIN CHOPPED WITH THIS RECIPE! FART JOKE! STUPID CALLBACK! TIRED REFERENCE! IGNORE HOW I'M BASICALLY BILL SIMMONS WHILE I poo poo ON BILL SIMMONS.



ps, we totally need to change the background picture in the food show to Hypnotoad in order to ensure viewers sticking around.

Snorb
Nov 19, 2010
Maybe it's me, but a grilled feta cheese sandwich with ham and/or bacon doesn't really sound all that bad. (Full disclosure: Is not really sure if feta will melt when grilled.)

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Snorb posted:

Maybe it's me, but a grilled feta cheese sandwich with ham and/or bacon doesn't really sound all that bad. (Full disclosure: Is not really sure if feta will melt when grilled.)

Feta won't melt, it's a very dry cheese.

but honestly, sprinkling feta on top of a toasted bread with a few slabs of crisp bacon does sound good, just feta is one of the worst cheeses to use in a grilled sandwich

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009
One thing that's baffling me is that they make a big hubbub about coffee shops in this game, but the coffees themselves are so lazy. Two of those coffees are literally just the beans and nothing else, and Enchanted Hat already pointed out the rose water deal. Why are so many of the recipes just one ingredient?

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Keldulas posted:

One thing that's baffling me is that they make a big hubbub about coffee shops in this game, but the coffees themselves are so lazy. Two of those coffees are literally just the beans and nothing else, and Enchanted Hat already pointed out the rose water deal. Why are so many of the recipes just one ingredient?

Not to mention, they're uniformly terrible in ratings and profitability

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Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
One of the beverages consists of what I presume is boiled rose water that is then served to the customer and called a tea. For $2.00 extra the server will pitch it in the customer's face while it's still hot for extra insult.

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