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Assad is only 52?! huh.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:
trump is gonna be ousted by that dumbass official coup in the NYT
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All things considered it is amazing Assad hasn't been killed yet, or at least a single flashy attempt at killing him. Maybe he's secretly CIA... I'll have to explore this more
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NPR is concern trolling hard about the humanitarian crisis in Idlib. how about the rebels just accept that they lost and leave the country?
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coathat posted:Because nobody wants them Syrians didn't want them either. e: I suppose Turkey could try to do a resettlement program of all the salafi chuds in Idlib to Afrin - but that's not going to resolve the issue of what's gonna be done about Afrin when the government takes Idlib.
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Willie Tomg posted:its being propped up by Qatari liquidity as a countermove in the latest gulf state ratfucking and i suspect the oil monarchies running out of piss to squirt on each others' legs will be the cause of the next hellish spasm of violence Propping up the Turkish economy to...own the Saudis?
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Propping up the Turkish economy to...own the Saudis? this specifically is more of a quid pro quo, but essentially yeah. turkish and saudi proxies have been fighting in syria--and of late, specfically in idlib--on the regular, and turkish food shipments have been making the attempted saudi blockade of qatar mostly just a pain in the rear end and not the famine-inducing catastrophe MBS would prefer in order to bring them to heel. and this is all a relatively recent development which was ultimately rooted in MBS having a shitfit that qatar refused to sever ties with iran. not even "support" iran, just... not completely cutting off diplomatic communication. so now instead of a unified gulf, theres this weird crabassed turkish-russo-persian-qatari ..... ~thing~ that showed no signs of existing even three years ago. mohamed bin-salman could gently caress up a one man parade
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Willie Tomg posted:this specifically is more of a quid pro quo, but essentially yeah. turkish and saudi proxies have been fighting in syria--and of late, specfically in idlib--on the regular, and turkish food shipments have been making the attempted saudi blockade of qatar mostly just a pain in the rear end and not the famine-inducing catastrophe MBS would prefer in order to bring them to heel. and this is all a relatively recent development which was ultimately rooted in MBS having a shitfit that qatar refused to sever ties with iran. not even "support" iran, just... not completely cutting off diplomatic communication. so now instead of a unified gulf, theres this weird crabassed turkish-russo-persian-qatari ..... ~thing~ that showed no signs of existing even three years ago.  but mbs
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Willie Tomg posted:this specifically is more of a quid pro quo, but essentially yeah. turkish and saudi proxies have been fighting in syria--and of late, specfically in idlib--on the regular, and turkish food shipments have been making the attempted saudi blockade of qatar mostly just a pain in the rear end and not the famine-inducing catastrophe MBS would prefer in order to bring them to heel. and this is all a relatively recent development which was ultimately rooted in MBS having a shitfit that qatar refused to sever ties with iran. not even "support" iran, just... not completely cutting off diplomatic communication. so now instead of a unified gulf, theres this weird crabassed turkish-russo-persian-qatari ..... ~thing~ that showed no signs of existing even three years ago. Probably not for much longer, once Idlib starts getting hot
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Probably not for much longer, once Idlib starts getting hot Why not? All of this is happening because MBS can't stop from pissing off people who were 90% on his side, and that's not going to change just because Russia is dropping bombs on proxies which've largely been cut loose by now. The material circumstances which led sides to choose those sides at the onset of this nightmare catspaw war have totally changed, and you've gotta figure at some point in the last year someone's mentioned in a back channel that Idlib's gonna get ugly.
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Willie Tomg posted:Why not? All of this is happening because MBS can't stop from pissing off people who were 90% on his side, and that's not going to change just because Russia is dropping bombs on proxies which've largely been cut loose by now. When powers start to feel their hegemony slipping away, they tend to make a lot of bad reactionary choices. Like blockading Qatar over trivial issues of narrative control, or throwing billions away on military adventurism in Syria and Yemen while their oil reserves are drying up. Attacking Idlib isn't going to damage the relationship between Turkey and Russia because they already know that it's a lost cause. Erdogan is just stalling for time by trying to call a ceasefire when they know that all the odds are stacked against them.
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There's also the angle where, if you want to suppress the Kurds in the north... who do you talk to about that, really? The Americans? Eh.
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1038259373708070914?s=19 I'm sure after this time Assad will stop. Because the war will be over and he'll have won.
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drat it's been awhile since i've seen one of these rip jihadists edit what happened to the ISIS spot next to the golan heights relying on israel to dissuade air assaults??
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https://twitter.com/KonstantinKlug/status/1038358219444379649 wtf i hate kurds now
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i say swears online posted:drat it's been awhile since i've seen one of these It was overrun. A territory like that could only exist so far as the other rebel groups in the area would rather deal with the state than fight ISIS for no real gain. The SAA rolled up all the pockets around Daraa so fast it barely had any commentary in Western media.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It was overrun. A territory like that could only exist so far as the other rebel groups in the area would rather deal with the state than fight ISIS for no real gain. The SAA rolled up all the pockets around Daraa so fast it barely had any commentary in Western media. yeah i'll say. i gave up on the dnd thread a long time agobut even without that it really seems twitter has died down
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Crowsbeak posted:I like how the poo poo heads their defending actually engaged in a pretty horrendous campaign of terror against Christians. You think Neocons actually give a poo poo about Middle Eastern Christians?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Assad is only 52?! huh. He only took Syria over from his dad in 2000.
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They're gearing up to make Idlib an unqualified humanitarian disaster, where they can pretend all the mass rape and murder they hyped up for Aleppo is actually happening.
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idk about that, for example, the new york times opinion page on Syria seems pretty balanced https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/1038609629226459136V https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1038511646543671297 https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1036404471687983104
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loving owned if they are so banned why are you on fire now
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okay so Idlib is like the last hold-out of jihadis that Assad's forces are closing in on, and the Western media is trying desperately to continue painting them as moderate rebels because they're the last significant resistance to Assad, and also trying to paint the offensive into the town as a humanitarian disaster to ramp-up the interventionism airhorn again?
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lol imagine invading syria now after it already having been in a hellish war for 7 years
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gradenko_2000 posted:okay so Idlib is like the last hold-out of jihadis that Assad's forces are closing in on, and the Western media is trying desperately to continue painting them as moderate rebels because they're the last significant resistance to Assad, and also trying to paint the offensive into the town as a humanitarian disaster to ramp-up the interventionism airhorn again? Idlib is a province, not just a city. I don't think intervention from America or NATO is seriously in the cards. I think what they're trying to do is keep Syria on the table as a target for regime change by never letting anyone forget that Assad is a bad man who does bad things. And if it means giving their readers the false impression that Idlib rebels are liberal democrats then who cares? They're gonna die anyway. It's not necessarily the last hold out for reactionary Islamist rebels in the country either, because there's still the issue of what to do about Turkey's occupation in northern Syria.
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Tokamak posted:banned* Use of White Phosphorus is only technically legal in the strict sense that it's a multi-use weapon, so you can claim you're not using it illegally if you're using it to illuminate an area or lay down a smokescreen. The fact that WP particles stick to your skin and can burn all the way down to the bone is purely incidental.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's not necessarily the last hold out for reactionary Islamist rebels in the country either, because there's still the issue of what to do about Turkey's occupation in northern Syria. this is the real question right here and something i see affecting regional politics for the near future; idlib's fate was sealed a while back
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https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1038951459201667073quote:WASHINGTON—President Bashar al-Assad of Syria has approved the use of chlorine gas in an offensive against the country’s last major rebel stronghold, U.S. officials said, raising the prospects for another retaliatory U.S. military strike as thousands try to escape what could be a decisive battle in the seven-year-old war. I guess chlorine is now the "red line" that can provoke more US intervention. We're not even talking about sarin or other nerve gas anymore.
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Tokamak posted:banned* they're banned for use against combatants, it's a war crime to drop white phosphorus on combatants
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