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goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Expect My Mom posted:

Sounds like people have turned in favor of the harder difficulty? I'm wondering if I should start over on it while I'm still really early on. I'm enjoying the a lot of the strategy of character building so I'd like it to mean something and rather it be a little tough than a total cakewalk. I like this game chill, but not asleep

I regretted not starting with it at first but by the point where you get a full party together I found boss fights to be comfortably tricky enough to keep me on my toes. I can usually leave it on autobattle with normal mob encounters though and I like it that way

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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Expect My Mom posted:

Sounds like people have turned in favor of the harder difficulty? I'm wondering if I should start over on it while I'm still really early on. I'm enjoying a lot of the strategy of character building so I'd like it to mean something and rather it be a little tough than a total cakewalk. I like this game chill, but not asleep

If you just avoid grinding you'll have plenty of difficulty with bosses, at least, on normal difficulty :shrug:

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Fhqwhgads posted:

The fact that everyone gets the same exp is at least going to make it really easy to mix and match to keep things fresh as the game goes on. I'm looking forward to swapping people in and out just for kicks later on.

yeah also you don't "wipe" on a battle unless literally every party member dies, if the 4 you have in are all gone it'll switch in backups automatically

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Heh, I was wondering what the pun for Avarith was supposed to be, until I heard her talk.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Flavius Aetass posted:

He had a lifetime to get good and he hosed off instead.

I really thought I would dislike Sylvando but he's amazing and hilarious. I took DW1 really seriously as a kid so I can't shake the feeling even now that the series shouldn't be as goofy as it is, but all the characters are so well-written. It's really difficult deciding who should be left out.

Goofiness has always been baked into DQ though, even before localizations started making every line of dialogue some sort of pun

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
I admittedly haven't played most Dragon Quests but I'm pretty sure the ridiculous grinning slimes have always been there

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


corn in the bible posted:

I admittedly haven't played most Dragon Quests but I'm pretty sure the ridiculous grinning slimes have always been there

Yeah they were the very first enemy you ran into in the first game. The DQ Slimes are known throughout Japan and I’m honestly surprised they aren’t a standard emoji at this point.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Unbridled Blade for Greatswords is so good.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
I'm stumped by a quest. Just after you get access to sailing around the world and do a chain that includes a little boss, mermaid wants me to find the little boy she heard singing from a ship with Gondolia painted on it? I've asked all bards I could find, checked with key old people because mermaids live quite a while, checked with Sylv, not getting anywhere. Not far enough in progression?

Sounds like I should have the answer right under my nose.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011

corn in the bible posted:

If you just avoid grinding you'll have plenty of difficulty with bosses, at least, on normal difficulty :shrug:

I've been pretty much playing the game underleveled by just ignoring half the enemies and it's been just right so far. Jade and Rab were 5-6 levels higher than my crew when they joined up.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Generally I avoid difficulty that ups stats in turn based games since it's just making you grind more for the same result. Only when they have brand new movesets do I even consider.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Perfect Potato posted:

He's pound for pound the most reliable magic user in the game (speed issue is trivial to fix with the skill panel and gear) and can effortlessly fill in for Veronica and makes Serena redundant (not that Sylvando with Hustle Dance didn't already do that for most of the game), I don't know what that other guy is on

I'd rather have Veronica in normal battles since she does more damage from the Boom line and I'd rather have Serena in boss battles since she heals more and the Hymn abilities help to prevent elemental damage, although admittedly this has never really been an issue. Not that Rab isn't viable and that attack all ability is pretty good for him, but I get the feeling it'll get obsoleted by end game, although I'm not sure how well it scales or if it gets some plot upgrade.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I've always loved the DQ games. Got my first start with baby's first RPG in Dragon Warrior 1, loved DQ7 and DQ8. Can't wait to play thorugh this on Hard mode. Is there any benefit for hardmode or is it just for more difficult enemies?

Mover
Jun 30, 2008


Rab’s real issue is just that he’s super boring until you find out that the huge backpack he’s been lugging around is literally just full of old porno mags

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

goferchan posted:

I regretted not starting with it at first but by the point where you get a full party together I found boss fights to be comfortably tricky enough to keep me on my toes. I can usually leave it on autobattle with normal mob encounters though and I like it that way


corn in the bible posted:

If you just avoid grinding you'll have plenty of difficulty with bosses, at least, on normal difficulty :shrug:
Right on, I'll stick with normal then, ty

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009

Ghosts n Gopniks posted:

I'm stumped by a quest. Just after you get access to sailing around the world and do a chain that includes a little boss, mermaid wants me to find the little boy she heard singing from a ship with Gondolia painted on it? I've asked all bards I could find, checked with key old people because mermaids live quite a while, checked with Sylv, not getting anywhere. Not far enough in progression?

Sounds like I should have the answer right under my nose.

It's an old guy at the harbor whose only line of dialogue is talking about being a child bard on a boat and singing all the time

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Tae posted:

Generally I avoid difficulty that ups stats in turn based games since it's just making you grind more for the same result. Only when they have brand new movesets do I even consider.

I know the feeling, but I think it works well in this game; it's not 'grind more until you have an equally easy time' since that'd take, like, forever. It's 'you may actually have to use debuffs and status ailments (the latter especially) in some tougher regular fights, and a dungeon might take more than one run to go through it.' Similar to the NES DQ games. Obviously, if that's not your bag, it's not your bag, but due to the way stat/enemy progression works in this game I think you'd have to be like twice the level to make it as difficult as on the standard difficulty.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Ahahaha, this Booga (mid-late game spoilers) is amazing. These battle animations are something else.

Edit: "Booga does a seductive dance"

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Sep 8, 2018

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Jeez, these casino reels are severely rigged, for the player because I kept getting silver spins and free spins and silver spins and free spins stack with silver spins :getin:

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Perfect Potato posted:

It's an old guy at the harbor whose only line of dialogue is talking about being a child bard on a boat and singing all the time
That elusive NPC, thanks!

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

A Sinister Rap posted:

I think the phone version of 1 is weirdly charming because of how stripped down it is. You only have one character, you fight enemies one at a time, you can count the amount of places you can go on two hands, and because the grinding is almost gone you can beat it in like 6 hours.

Still, it's probably best enjoyed as a novelty, seeing where the series started and all that.

The mobile version is honestly probably the best version of the original for casual play. It adds in the convenience of the SNES/GBC remakes and blends the translations of the NES and current generation of games. Plus its short enough that it doesn't have time to really wear out its welcome.

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe
OK, this is driving me insane.

Where is the Mini Medal Academy? It's obvious that's where I'm supposed to go next but I flat out cannot find the place.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

ComposerGuy posted:

OK, this is driving me insane.

Where is the Mini Medal Academy? It's obvious that's where I'm supposed to go next but I flat out cannot find the place.

You get there through one of those inland lakes you have to sail to. There's only 2, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
If you can't get to them yet, there's still some other stuff you need to do first.

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

On the subject of goofiness, it's also good to see the series is still as on point as ever about regularly pulling 180s and having surprisingly effective emotional scenes with typically corny stuff like love and family and friends. Dragon Quest always has such a good attitude and it's genuinely heartwarming that it's still going strong with it.

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe

Broken Cog posted:

You get there through one of those inland lakes you have to sail to. There's only 2, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
If you can't get to them yet, there's still some other stuff you need to do first.


Thank you! I'd have spent another few hours on that.

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

Never played a DQ game before and happen to be looking for something new to play. I saw the new one was released on Steam. The only JRPGs I’ve played are Xenoblade Chronicles and Persona series. I loved both of them. Would I enjoy this as well?

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

chaosapiant posted:

Never played a DQ game before and happen to be looking for something new to play. I saw the new one was released on Steam. The only JRPGs I’ve played are Xenoblade Chronicles and Persona series. I loved both of them. Would I enjoy this as well?

I don't know, I guess that depends on what you liked about those games. Dragon Quest has very straightforward turn-based combat and is very light-hearted; it's pretty different from Persona in most ways.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Hi i downloaded the pre order code items and installed them but the game still doesnt detect them when I go to claim special rewards. I have re installed them like twice now and still nothing.

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe
Something I'm noticing is that your crafting skill doesn't at all keep up with the recipe difficulty after a certain point. I'm basically failing everything I make now because there just isn't enough focus in the pool to get everything finished.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

chaosapiant posted:

Never played a DQ game before and happen to be looking for something new to play. I saw the new one was released on Steam. The only JRPGs I’ve played are Xenoblade Chronicles and Persona series. I loved both of them. Would I enjoy this as well?

Yea get it, it's great. It's goofy on the surface but there's a ton of depth underneath.

For the record the first jrpg I ever really loved was Persona 3 and this takes things to a whole different level.

Ojetor
Aug 4, 2010

Return of the Sensei

ComposerGuy posted:

Something I'm noticing is that your crafting skill doesn't at all keep up with the recipe difficulty after a certain point. I'm basically failing everything I make now because there just isn't enough focus in the pool to get everything finished.

I thought this too but I figure I might just be underleveled. When Rab and Jade joined my party they were 4 levels above me.

It's just so easy to avoid fights and hard to tell where on the level curve I'm supposed to be.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Whoa ok no wonder the slots are so generous, what with a sword costing 50 thousand tokens

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

ComposerGuy posted:

Something I'm noticing is that your crafting skill doesn't at all keep up with the recipe difficulty after a certain point. I'm basically failing everything I make now because there just isn't enough focus in the pool to get everything finished.

Use multibash to start. 4 bashes (albeit random, but who cares at the start) for 7 focus is really good efficiency. Use the rest of the fluorishes when multibash starts getting risky. There's a bit of a luck element to it, but using multibash really helped.

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

ComposerGuy posted:

Something I'm noticing is that your crafting skill doesn't at all keep up with the recipe difficulty after a certain point. I'm basically failing everything I make now because there just isn't enough focus in the pool to get everything finished.
Get more recipes and level up more. For the 2* recipes in particular, you're expected to have wooshy puff or whatever it's called, the one that increases the furnace heat to succeed on them.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

Get more recipes and level up more. For the 2* recipes in particular, you're expected to have wooshy puff or whatever it's called, the one that increases the furnace heat to succeed on them.

Is there a list of where to find recipes? I'm sure I've been good about finding them in general but DQ likes to hide their poo poo good

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


Wait how the hell was I completely unaware that DQ I-VIII are available on mobile and why aren’t they on the Switch

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Calaveron posted:

Whoa ok no wonder the slots are so generous, what with a sword costing 50 thousand tokens

Hitting the Jackpot for 200k tokens was real nice for getting a couple swords, dresses, and bandannas.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Evil Fluffy posted:

Hitting the Jackpot for 200k tokens was real nice for getting a couple swords, dresses, and bandannas.

I assume you did that one of the latter slot machines? I hit 777 on the first available slots and got a general chunk of cheese but nowhere near that

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Calaveron posted:

Is there a list of where to find recipes? I'm sure I've been good about finding them in general but DQ likes to hide their poo poo good

yea it feels like my recipe library is still pretty small and I've been looting every bookcase I find. Is there another source?

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Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


I have spent far too long in this stupid video game casino today


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