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Our builder is putting a Zephyr insert into our custom hood, they have under cabinet models as well. I would check with local appliance and kitchen appliance dealers in your area. They'll have better options than the big box stores.
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Spending some money on a range hood can be a great quality of life improvement if you're cooking a lot. My inlaws have one that is quieter on high than mine on low and actually extracts smoke and the like on all speeds.
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Sep 10, 2018 16:47
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I'm cooking a lot and I hate the smoke, but my stupid range is on the island with high ceilings over it. What are my options?
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Sep 10, 2018 16:59
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I'm cooking a lot and I hate the smoke, but my stupid range is on the island with high ceilings over it. What are my options? Throw money at the problem.
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Sep 10, 2018 17:02
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Just build a chimney above your island going up through the ceiling.
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Sep 10, 2018 17:08
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Remodel your kitchen to put your range up against the wall.H110Hawk posted:Throw money at the problem. Also https://www.google.com/search?q=kit...iw=1366&bih=641
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Sep 10, 2018 17:35
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TheWevel posted:Our builder is putting a Zephyr insert into our custom hood, they have under cabinet models as well. I would check with local appliance and kitchen appliance dealers in your area. They'll have better options than the big box stores. New house has a full depth Zephyr over one of the stoves and I can confirm it's a kick rear end hood. Not very loud and works great on all settings. Cheesus has the benefit of it being externally exhausted, which means it has a chance at actually working properly, and zephyr does make some nice looking slim hoods. CFM requirements are "as much as you can get, and preferably full depth so you won't need it on high whenever you are using the front burners." Realistically CFM rating are going to go along with the BTU ratings of the hood. Larger ones for prosumer type ranges are going to be in the 650+ range (mine is 1200) where normal 4 burner stove models will be more like 200-400.
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Sep 10, 2018 18:08
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I'm cooking a lot and I hate the smoke, but my stupid range is on the island with high ceilings over it. What are my options? Oh hey, I'm in the process of redesigning my utterly useless kitchen and the new design hinges on putting the stove in an island (there is literally no where else to put it that works). Ceiling is 9'8", and there is no existing stove ventilation other than propping open the door. My plan is to have a cool hanging range hood with heavy duty pot racks around it. My dad wisely insists on consulting an engineer on the design to ensure it's rated for 400 pounds of hanging cast iron skillets. The range hood would vent into the gigantic immovable stove chimney via duct between the joists. We'll have to go into the ceiling to install ductwork and mount the thing to the joists, but then again we're going to have to gut everything anyway, so ripping open the ceiling and poking a new hole in the chimney is no biggie. No sure where you'd put the exhaust if you don't have a chimney or exterior wall nearby.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:11
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Queen Victorian posted:Oh hey, I'm in the process of redesigning my utterly useless kitchen and the new design hinges on putting the stove in an island (there is literally no where else to put it that works). Ceiling is 9'8", and there is no existing stove ventilation other than propping open the door. That's something I'd also thought about, but I would also consider carefully about the possibility of your pots being coated in a thin layer of oil from hanging up above your range. Even though it should be outside the hood, some oil vapor will still be there.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:37
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Is there just a flap that shuts on the outside wall / how well is the cold kept out during winter? Or fan just exhausts inside currently so we hardly ever use it.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:45
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sadus posted:Is there just a flap that shuts on the outside wall / how well is the cold kept out during winter? Or fan just exhausts inside currently so we hardly ever use it. Cheap ones are "just a flap", which ends up being completely sufficient for the lower CFM models. This is another one of those "it entirely depends on the quality of installation". Having a proper outlet (also with a flap) on the house along with the flap closer to the fan works fine.
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Sep 10, 2018 20:02
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Literally my solution to this problem is probably going to end up being "move to a house that did this right" or "gut renovate the kitchen" so one way or another it's going to end up being loving expensive. I can't believe we didn't realize it was going to be as big of a deal as it's been.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Literally my solution to this problem is probably going to end up being "move to a house that did this right" or "gut renovate the kitchen" so one way or another it's going to end up being loving expensive. I can't believe we didn't realize it was going to be as big of a deal as it's been. Is it on the first floor/have basement access? Because you can put in a downdraft range and run the vent down to get outside.
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totalnewbie posted:That's something I'd also thought about, but I would also consider carefully about the possibility of your pots being coated in a thin layer of oil from hanging up above your range. Even though it should be outside the hood, some oil vapor will still be there. I've thought about this as well, and decided that it can work if you only hang frequently used cast iron and keep stainless/nonstick/enamel in the cabinet. My parents keep a huge stack of cast iron on the back burner of their stove and it's never gross because they use it all the time. With cast iron, any oil spray that gets on it gets polymerized into the seasoning during cooking or scrubbed off during cleaning with frequent use. Wouldn't work with any other type of cookware.
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We got a Kitchenaid hood to match our range. It does 600 CFM but if we did it again I'd probably get something more powerful.
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TheWevel posted:Our builder is putting a Zephyr insert into our custom hood, they have under cabinet models as well. I would check with local appliance and kitchen appliance dealers in your area. They'll have better options than the big box stores. I'm worried this is significant $$$$ compared to what I'm seeing on Costco.com for range hoods. Thufir posted:We got a Kitchenaid hood to match our range. It does 600 CFM but if we did it again I'd probably get something more powerful. Yikes, that's already a lot of CFM! e: at higher than 600 CFM, do you guys start worrying about "makeup air"? https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/makeup-air-for-range-hoods Mandalay fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Sep 11, 2018 |
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Sep 11, 2018 00:07
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Cheesus posted:
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Mandalay posted:Yikes, that's already a lot of CFM! You should be worried about it if you have a gas water heater (or older less efficient furnance)! 600CFM is a lot!
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Sep 11, 2018 01:43
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TheWevel posted:
 Thanks for the Zephyr recommendation and to look locally. The 30" Breeze I Under-Cabinet Model # AK1100B looks like it may work for me and according to a local seller's web site, cheaper than through Amazon.
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Cheesus posted:Since I wrote the first quote and Mandalay wrote the second, the first one. Oh, oops. phonemogged
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Mandalay posted:e: at higher than 600 CFM, do you guys start worrying about "makeup air"? https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/makeup-air-for-range-hoods Yes. You need to crack a window or spend even more money on a hood with makeup air. And if you do that you'll hate it int he winter because the makeup air is really cold and will go down the front of you (back of you for a commercial hood) so then you spend more on a makeup air heater. This well runs deep. Just buy a nice 4 burner range hood, vent it outside and be happy. Don't go overboard unless you're willing to go all the way.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I'm cooking a lot and I hate the smoke, but my stupid range is on the island with high ceilings over it. What are my options? Without a hood you'll just have to try to make less smoke. I cook all the time and get almost no smoke at all (except for pan frying smoky things like mole, steaks, sausages... I only make these rarely anyway) Tips for minimizing smoke when you cook: - Use oils with lower smoke points (olive oil, butter) - Use less oil in general (using cast iron cookware can help with this) - Use lower temperatures (you're probably using too much heat, get your fat sizzling and then try lowering the heat) - Use lids - Choose meats that produce less smoke when cooked. Chicken and fish tend to produce less smoke than fattier meats like beef. Of course you can still generate a bunch of smoke with any meat if you're careless - Don't burn stuff - Give your stove a thorough cleaning.
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QuarkJets posted:Tips for minimizing smoke when you cook: How does that work? Seems exactly backwards.
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Subjunctive posted:How does that work? Seems exactly backwards. It is. You want to use higher smoke point oils if you're cooking hot. Like peanut. Unfortunately high smoke point oils don't have a lot of flavor.
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Motronic posted:It is. You want to use higher smoke point oils if you're cooking hot. Like peanut. Yeah, I have mostly settled on ghee as a compromise, plus a smoke detector I can silence from my phone.
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QuarkJets posted:- Use lower temperatures (you're probably using too much heat, get your fat sizzling and then try lowering the heat) This guy never makes Chinese food, apparently.
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Sep 11, 2018 14:32
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totalnewbie posted:This guy never makes Chinese food, apparently. Or a decent steak. Get that cast iron skillet as hot as you can to sear the poo poo out of a nice sous-vide ribeye.
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Sep 11, 2018 14:34
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This is why I have a grill. Doesn't help if you live somewhere in the frozen north. The only smoke producing thing I do inside is fry.
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Sep 11, 2018 16:14
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You can grill when there’s snow on the ground. It works fine as long as it’s not an active blizzard (just like with an active rainstorm).
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totalnewbie posted:This guy never makes Chinese food, apparently. I don't make Chinese food but I do make shitloads of Thai food, including stir fries and curries. Cast iron wok lets you use less heat, and the result is practically smoke-free
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DJCobol posted:Or a decent steak. Get that cast iron skillet as hot as you can to sear the poo poo out of a nice sous-vide ribeye. If you'd bother to read my post you'd see that I basically identified steak as unavoidably producing smoke, but you can choose other meats that don't
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QuarkJets posted:If you'd bother to read my post you'd see that I basically identified steak as unavoidably producing smoke, but you can choose other meats that don't It's not unavoidable: 
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b0lt posted:It's not unavoidable: .....posts a picture of smoke coming off of a steak.......
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Motronic posted:.....posts a picture of smoke coming off of a steak....... If you look closely you'll see that's just a little bit of flavor dust, indicating the meat is saturated with flavor.
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That is clearly the spirit of delicious entering the meat.
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I'm still working on my bathroom remodel. Someday I'll be done, probably when literal ghosts possess my body and force me to sand this loving drywall mud. 
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Since it’s starting to cool off but still humid my AC is not running much. House humidity is 72-75% now. Should I be getting a whole house dehumidifier? E: DEhumidifier ughhhh howdoesishotweb fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Sep 12, 2018 |
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howdoesishotweb posted:Since it’s starting to cool off but still humid my AC is not running much. House humidity is 72-75% now. Should I be getting a whole house humidifier? If you want the environment you choose to live in resembling a bog, yeah, humidify the poo poo out that house.
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howdoesishotweb posted:Since it’s starting to cool off but still humid my AC is not running much. House humidity is 72-75% now. Should I be getting a whole house dehumidifier? Yes, this is exactly what they are for.
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howdoesishotweb posted:Since it’s starting to cool off but still humid my AC is not running much. House humidity is 72-75% now. Should I be getting a whole house dehumidifier? I wouldn't. 70 degrees and 70% humidity is basically the perfect environment to store your cigars at. You're pretty close right now so I wouldn't mess with it.
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