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-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
I've been in for 12 now, and in my country there's nothing like that pension scheme. I retire at 62, or I quit and go do something else. (I'm quitting and doing something else come summer)
Unfortunately they've also discontinued our equivalent to the GI bill, but the Danish socialist welfare state provides free education and about USD $1000 a month when you study, so it's not all bad.

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Dum Cumpster
Sep 12, 2003

*pozes your neghole*
I've been in these posting wars for 15 years :shepicide:

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

McNally posted:

Military retirement is 50% of your base pay (which, depending, might actually be something like 25% of your take home), 75% after 30 years.

Yeah. It’s why part of my plan, should I make it to 20, is DINK life forever and ever until we either stop working or work part-time.

We’re generally frugal, have no debt anymore, a paid off rental home, and have both been full-time employed since we graduated college, straight from high school. Not terrible, considering my food stamps and free school lunch childhood.

My dream of not working before I’m too crippled to work lives on, for now. But everyone is one or two disasters or bad decisions from losing that hope.

Yes, I realize this means I’m up against the wall or in line for guillotines if it comes to it.

mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 11, 2018

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

Yeah. It’s why part of my plan, should I make it to 20, is DINK life forever and ever until we either stop working or work part-time.

We’re generally frugal, have no debt anymore, and have both been full-time employed since we graduated college, straight from high school.

My dream of not working before I’m too crippled to work lives on, for now. But everyone is one or two disasters from losing that hope.

You just jynxed yourself, Major.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

psydude posted:

You just jynxed yourself, Major.

I jinxed myself the second I got a really bad injury as an LT and still didn’t get out.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
That PT test will absolutely weed out a bunch of people and cause serious injuries. I don't see it making it past the Defense Health Board unless it's got serious changes. Probably toss this one on the pile for failed attempts.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011



This plus internet is basically my dream home

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
American Military Pension is pretty wild compared to Euros who will Army until 62 in most cases and the pension comes nowhere even near what, let’s say, Major at 20 years gets at retirement. Especially lol at some E-7 getting anything else besides public ridicule for being a lifer NCO.

The militaries overall provide very few benefits or perks, because it is the job of the state.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I'll stick my guard time out to 20 for whatever retirement that'll come to, and consider running up the score if I'm doing something I like. If nothing else it's cheap healthcare for the next 9+ years.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Casimir Radon posted:

I'll stick my guard reserve time out to 20 for whatever retirement that'll come to, and consider running up the score if I'm doing something I like. If nothing else it's cheap healthcare for the next 9+ years.

:same:

There is a lot that is hosed up about the reserves but, having some sort of real pension and health care for myself and my spouse is a big draw as an additional job.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
I already have over 93k in my pension from being in a union 7 years. $8 an hour goes directly to my pension on-top of my pay and bennies

Nice and hot piss
Feb 1, 2004

The retirement plan for guard/reserves is pretty minute in comparison to the active component isn't it? Like an average guardsman who gets out as say... an E-7 with 2 deployments and does 20 years ends up only getting like $500 a month? The healthcare benefit is super nice, i won't argue that.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/1039572801617842176?s=21

:patriot:

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Nice and hot piss posted:

The retirement plan for guard/reserves is pretty minute in comparison to the active component isn't it? Like an average guardsman who gets out as say... an E-7 with 2 deployments and does 20 years ends up only getting like $500 a month? The healthcare benefit is super nice, i won't argue that.
It's not real high. Mine might be alright because I was a guard bum early on, and have a lot of points.

Even $500 a month is still $6000 a year once you turn 59 or so. A lot of people wish they had that coming in.

Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Sep 11, 2018

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

I already have over 93k in my pension from being in a union 7 years. $8 an hour goes directly to my pension on-top of my pay and bennies

Does a pension in Canada just mean a tax advantaged retirement account or something? In the US, a defined benefit pension plan means you're guaranteed to get paid a certain amount of money each month basically until death. The few companies that still offer them typically don't require any contribution on the part of the beneficiaries aside from time worked.

Coldwar timewarp
May 8, 2007



Hot Karl Marx posted:

I already have over 93k in my pension from being in a union 7 years. $8 an hour goes directly to my pension on-top of my pay and bennies

What's the trade?

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Coldwar timewarp posted:

What's the trade?

Heavy equipment operator, but the contract is natural gas distribution.

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Heavy equipment operator, but the contract is natural gas distribution.

I used to drive a lot of forklifts, and I'm earning a degree in geology, can I get into something like this?

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

psydude posted:

Does a pension in Canada just mean a tax advantaged retirement account or something? In the US, a defined benefit pension plan means you're guaranteed to get paid a certain amount of money each month basically until death. The few companies that still offer them typically don't require any contribution on the part of the beneficiaries aside from time worked.

RRSPs are the tax deferred account I believe, but as part of the contract for the work i do, the company pays $8/h to the union pension plan and the union will pay me an amount per month when I retire based on what I have contributed. I'm aiming at $7000ish (before taxes) a month ATM if I keep my hours up and I retire at 60 in good standing with the union (all dues paid etc). I also have an RRSP that I can't even contribute to because so much goes into the union one.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

DownByTheWooter posted:

I used to drive a lot of forklifts, and I'm earning a degree in geology, can I get into something like this?

If you can run a shovel you can maybe get in. Operators aren't always open cause if there isn't a demand guys are sitting at home and they won't accept new membership but they're trying to get all the olds to retire so new blood can come in. They usually have free training for members as well but green guys usually get in from connections (my dad got me in)

Edit:

https://www.iuoe.org/

More edit and "content":

https://twitter.com/Ahmadinejad1956/status/1039589748237578240?s=19

Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Sep 11, 2018

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

I work as a security officer for an agency aligned with the UN and am currently at a training course in Africa with a dude who spent nearly 40 years in the French Army (not FFL) who is making $96,000 a year at another agency (in a place where $9600 a year would be way more than what the richest local would see) and having his kids school paid for plus a generous pension.

Overseas work sounds tempting at times, but only if I get to bring Lando with my girlfriend. Hard loving pass if I don’t.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
I recently discovered a passion for theater, so I'm going to try and do 20 years to get a retirement check and then try and pursue stage acting full time with the financial backing.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

dscruffy1 posted:

I recently discovered a passion for theater, so I'm going to try and do 20 years to get a retirement check and then try and pursue stage acting full time with the financial backing.

This is so enlisted

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Reading Woodward's book. Never knew just how instrumental Bannon was to getting Trump elected.

And that fucker clocked 100% precisely just how much of a cheese brained destructive retard Trump was from square one and seems to never have asked himself what the living gently caress he was doing, working night and day getting him elected President.

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Just realized that if I had stayed in I could have retired next year. gently caress I'm old.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

boop the snoot posted:

This is so enlisted

Guilty? :shrug:

It's something I enjoy, all the better if I can get paid for it.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MPcPNxW2WM

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Mister Sinewave posted:

Reading Woodward's book. Never knew just how instrumental Bannon was to getting Trump elected.

And that fucker clocked 100% precisely just how much of a cheese brained destructive retard Trump was from square one and seems to never have asked himself what the living gently caress he was doing, working night and day getting him elected President.

I mean, never underestimate how much Woodward's books are uncritically repeating the version of a story that makes the person telling Woodward the story look good. All sources make themselves the hero of their story, to some extent, but Woodward's secret to success and access so far has been basically uncritically repeating back whatever information people are telling him without particularly asking himself why they are telling him that information.

Maybe this book is different, but I doubt it.

And of course, Cambridge Analystica was Bannon's baby and mostly seemed to be a standard consulting firm that suckered in Bannon and the Mercer's with slapping a layer of silicon valley technobabble and ad copy on standard consulting techniques, and all the candidates he's backed in special elections have pretty much lost. So despite Bannon's evil Mastermind schtick his opinion of himself is a lot more inflated than is anywhere near deserved.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

dscruffy1 posted:

Guilty? :shrug:

It's something I enjoy, all the better if I can get paid for it.

No, his point is that instead of leaving now to pursue your dreams you're sticking with your military job just like everyone else who's telling themselves they'll start enjoying their lives just as soon as they're done spending the entirely of their young adult lives sacrificing their bodies to an institution that doesn't give a poo poo about them.

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

dscruffy1 posted:

I recently discovered a passion for theater, so I'm going to try and do 20 years to get a retirement check and then try and pursue stage acting full time with the financial backing.

Hey man that sounds like a loving great goal to have. I got a brother in law that intermittently gets stage acting work and has to bag groceries and wait tables in between gigs to pursue his passion. You’d be one of the few in your profession with health insurance, and steady income. That’d be a real leg up for becoming a successful actor. Best of luck with it. Also if you REALLY wanna get some big bucks and acting isn’t working, get into the technical side of lighting and the electrical setup side of the show. That’s union trade work, and drat good paying when you can get into it. It’s something my brother in law failed at, just not a good technical guy, decent actor however.

Don’t listen to Cole, he’s retarded.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007


CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Fox news, so a boulder of salt, musky salt.

Elon Musk offered $150000 for porn film role
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/09/11/elon-musk-offered-150000-for-porn-film-role.html

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Fox news, so a boulder of salt, musky salt.

Elon Musk offered $150000 for porn film role
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/09/11/elon-musk-offered-150000-for-porn-film-role.html

That's it?! $150k to a man worth billions* to appear on camera and gently caress?


*actual wealth amount may vary.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Hey man that sounds like a loving great goal to have. I got a brother in law that intermittently gets stage acting work and has to bag groceries and wait tables in between gigs to pursue his passion. You’d be one of the few in your profession with health insurance, and steady income. That’d be a real leg up for becoming a successful actor. Best of luck with it. Also if you REALLY wanna get some big bucks and acting isn’t working, get into the technical side of lighting and the electrical setup side of the show. That’s union trade work, and drat good paying when you can get into it. It’s something my brother in law failed at, just not a good technical guy, decent actor however.

Don’t listen to Cole, he’s retarded.

I don't know what I'm looking at as far as college work yet but possibly minoring in electrical engineering or something seems like it'd be a plus.

I know basically nothing about college or what major/minor means, because I couldn't be assed to college before I figured out something I actually wanted to do with it. So I've still got 8.5 years part time college before I retire to make up for that.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country
OH COME ON

quote:

House Republicans bracing for November’s midterm elections unveiled a second round of tax cuts on Monday that could add more than $2 trillion to the federal deficit over a decade, aiming to cement the steep cuts they passed last fall despite criticisms of fiscal profligacy and tailoring their policies to help the rich.

The GOP’s “tax reform 2.0″ aims to make permanent the tax cuts for individuals that President Trump signed into law in December 2017, including the law’s temporary reductions in individual filers’ rates, a doubling of the Child Tax Credit, and cuts to the estate tax paid by a small fraction of the wealthiest families.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...m=.bafe32d0e0fa

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Look, you wouldn't want to deprive wealthy people of that second McLaren would you? Have a heart, you monster.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers






Lol

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Crakkerjakk posted:

I mean, never underestimate how much Woodward's books are uncritically repeating the version of a story that makes the person telling Woodward the story look good. All sources make themselves the hero of their story, to some extent, but Woodward's secret to success and access so far has been basically uncritically repeating back whatever information people are telling him without particularly asking himself why they are telling him that information.

Maybe this book is different, but I doubt it.


Its not, but it works fine in this book since everyone is poo poo talking everyone else

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Fiscal responsibility.

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Let's not forget about the real villains here. Those greedy leeches on food stamps.

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