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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'll have you know that egalitarianism is actually racist and so was the USSR, furthermore

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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

They had a department of nationalities.what the heck do you have?

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world



Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgJZADHsyg

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dope

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1039367200019230720

:thunk:

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

can't believe "general storm" was a nazi

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Prav posted:

can't believe "general storm" was a nazi

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/kulturalmarx/status/1039986715417399296

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Prav posted:

can't believe "general storm" was a nazi

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

soldier at :35 is trying very hard to suppress a slavic accent, listen to her 'Vs', 'Rs', and 'Ds'

HorrificExistence fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Sep 13, 2018

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
any book recs for the Mitterrand government? I was listening to Swampside Chats and they mentioned how Mitterrand went full socdem but also that it didn't work out well for them, and now my interest is piqued, especially since this is a complete historical blindspot for me

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Miterrand was complicit or even supported the Rwandan government during the Tutsi genocide.

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
https://twitter.com/ProSocialismYT/status/1040049517188603905

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Plutonis posted:

Miterrand was complicit or even supported the Rwandan government during the Tutsi genocide.

*anarchistly* pfft, find me a government that hasn't supported a genocide

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Prav posted:

can't believe "general storm" was a nazi

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


a good p...post

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

gradenko_2000 posted:

any book recs for the Mitterrand government? I was listening to Swampside Chats and they mentioned how Mitterrand went full socdem but also that it didn't work out well for them, and now my interest is piqued, especially since this is a complete historical blindspot for me

The last biography to make a big splash was Mitterand: A Study in Ambiguity by Philip Short in 2014. I have not read the book, however I did read the reviews in both the LRB and the New York Review of Books and they make for a fascinating joint read, imo

Republican King by Philippe Marlière in the LRB treats Mitterand as, essentially, a failure - the gravedigger of his own political fortune who undermined his working-class base through capitulation to neoliberal dictates; he concludes by drawing parallels with the later failings of PS under Jospin and Hollande.

quote:

By the time his second term started, Mitterrand had lost all interest in the possibility of social transformation. He enjoyed the company of other world leaders, such as Bush Sr, Kohl and Thatcher. His foreign policy was increasingly erratic. In 1994 the Tutsi-dominated opposition in Rwanda accused him of abetting the genocide through France’s military support for the Hutu-dominated francophone government, and of allowing Hutu militias to go on a murderous rampage, despite the presence of the French army. Mitterrand maintained that he knew nothing of the ethnic tensions that erupted after the president’s plane was shot down over Kigali, but this remains one of the darkest hours of his presidency. At home he showed little interest in the declining fortunes of his fellow citizens: ‘We have tried everything we could to fight back unemployment,’ he said. ‘There is nothing else we can do.’ Bernard Tapie, a corrupt businessman, was invited to join the government in 1992. Mitterrand manipulated and mistreated successive prime ministers: Michel Rocard, his arch-enemy, then Edith Cresson and finally Pierre Bérégovoy, who committed suicide in 1993, days after the PS had suffered another crushing defeat in the general election. By the time Mitterrand retired from politics in 1995, he had transformed the PS in the space of ten years or so from a left-wing social democratic party into a catch-all centrist party supported by a few activists and with no real purchase on French society. Historians who wish to study Third-Way ‘modernisations’ of European social democracy need not start with Blair: Mitterrand did it first.

How Wily Mitterand Transformed France by Louis Begley in the New York Review of Books makes a defense of Mitterand's record from a hard liberal position

quote:

On balance, his presidency transformed France for the better. He improved French-German relations, took part in the creation of the euro, and counteracted the Socialist allergy to a robust defense policy. In domestic affairs he modernized the Socialist Party, showing it was possible for the left and the right to coexist peacefully. In all likelihood Mitterrand has received too much credit for diminishing the power of the Communists—the decline of Western European Communist parties in the closing decades of the twentieth century has been a generalized phenomenon—and too much blame for the rise of Jean-Marie Le Pen’s Front National. It too has been mirrored by the widespread resurgence of the European far right, and conditions unrelated to Mitterrand’s electoral maneuvers.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


I can't believe Trotsky wasn't willing to work with the DSA

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

GalacticAcid posted:

The last biography to make a big splash was Mitterand: A Study in Ambiguity by Philip Short in 2014. I have not read the book, however I did read the reviews in both the LRB and the New York Review of Books and they make for a fascinating joint read, imo

Republican King by Philippe Marlière in the LRB treats Mitterand as, essentially, a failure - the gravedigger of his own political fortune who undermined his working-class base through capitulation to neoliberal dictates; he concludes by drawing parallels with the later failings of PS under Jospin and Hollande.


How Wily Mitterand Transformed France by Louis Begley in the New York Review of Books makes a defense of Mitterand's record from a hard liberal position

was about to say "didn't he do the 35-hour workweek", then googled it and realized it was jospin and chirac lol

jacques chirac is further left than any US president since 1945, maybe ever

edit i don't actually know how much power the french president has when the PM and cabinet is of the opposite party

ediiit: looks like the french prez retreats to foreign policy when his party isn't in control of parliament

i say swears online fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Sep 13, 2018

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


HorrificExistence posted:

soldier at :35 is trying very hard to suppress a slavic accent, listen to her 'Vs', 'Rs', and 'Ds'

mm yes a free thinker :hmmyes:

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Plutonis posted:

They had a department of nationalities.what the heck do you have?

Representation

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
it rules that the Washington "Redskins" are somehow only the second worst brand in North American sports w.r.t. depiction of Native Americans

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

GalacticAcid posted:

it rules that the Washington "Redskins" are somehow only the second worst brand in North American sports w.r.t. depiction of Native Americans

Oh trust me. There are worse but they tend to be from small town highschool teams that nobody gets mad about because nobody has heard of them

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The Indians are officially phasing out chief wahoo (because nobody actually likes the indians) next year while the Redskins are going to drag their heels forever.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
Snyder will definitely never let that name change. will have to be whoever owns the franchise next

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
The Indians should be phased out as a franchise, as should the rest of the AL Central

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Ohio sports teams:
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Reds
Cleveland Indians

Thankfully the Dayton Kikes and Columbus Spooks have dissolved.

Serf
May 5, 2011


the atlanta braves still exist, i think

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
loath as i am to defend anything related to ohio, neither the browns nor the reds are ethnic references

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Serf posted:

the atlanta braves still exist, i think

they do, and they still do 'the tomahawk chop' at every game where their entire slack-jawed southron fanbase sings "oohhhhh oh oh ohhhhhh" in an "indian voice"

i will still be rooting for them if they go to the NLCS against the cubs

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ShriekingMarxist posted:

Ohio sports teams:
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Reds
Cleveland Indians

Thankfully the Dayton Kikes and Columbus Spooks have dissolved.

Look it's important to respect what few traditions America has

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

ShriekingMarxist posted:

Ohio sports teams:
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Reds
Cleveland Indians

Thankfully the Dayton Kikes and Columbus Spooks have dissolved.

The Reds used to be the red stockings, but shortened to just "Reds." The Browns are named after their first coach, Paul Brown.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

GalacticAcid posted:

they do, and they still do 'the tomahawk chop' at every game where their entire slack-jawed southron fanbase sings "oohhhhh oh oh ohhhhhh" in an "indian voice"

i will still be rooting for them if they go to the NLCS against the cubs

to be fair (?) to the beaneaters they stole it from Florida State U:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlgfs7bIhys

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/windwake_/status/1039672670743347200

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Dreddout posted:

Oh trust me. There are worse but they tend to be from small town highschool teams that nobody gets mad about because nobody has heard of them

I bring up the Pekin Chinks (near Peoria Illinois) all the time (they changed their name in the 80s)

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/m_l_len/status/1040059209293934593

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

mastershakeman posted:

I bring up the Pekin Chinks (near Peoria Illinois) all the time (they changed their name in the 80s)



Coachella Valley Arabs

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
I'm convinced the leaders of Red Guards are cointelpro

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dreddout posted:

I'm convinced the leaders of Red Guards are cointelpro
:hmmyes:

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