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StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Ensign Expendable posted:

BT tank drivers were rigidly strapped into their seats when they were doing acrobatics like that, I wonder if the driver of this tank was as lucky.

I'm not sure "acrobatics" is the first term that comes to mind for me here

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Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



the reminds me of one of those tumbling cat gifs

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

ilmucche posted:

When I read GULAG instead of Gulag it makes me think of GURPS. Maybe the prisoners should've rolled a better character, or invested in sneak so they could leave.

If I could choose between GULAG, modern American prison, or GURPS, I'd go with the American prison.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Nenonen posted:

Why is the mast bent like that, or is the rear tower actually a Dalek?

It folds down to get under a bridge that it has to cross under to get in and out of its home port.

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify

Clarence posted:

Let's find out what 2/Lt. Wilding (he of the long range sniping of yesterday) is up to now -


:(
Horace Holden Wilding, age 22, son of Matilda Wilding, of 19, Kingswood Rd., Prestwich, Manchester, and the late John Frederick Wilding. Joined the Battalion less than two weeks ago.
This may be the same H H Wilding from Manchester in the KRRC who was wounded as a Private on 2nd October 1916.


My maternal grandmother’s maiden name was Prestwich and it’s my middle name because of it. I dunno why this makes me extra sad but :(

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

SeanBeansShako posted:

Thank gently caress, content!

tevery best knows a whole lot bout an underserved area, and does good work

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

HEY GUNS posted:

tevery best knows a whole lot bout an underserved area, and does good work

I feel like their username was something else until a minute ago

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!

Clarence posted:

Let's find out what 2/Lt. Wilding (he of the long range sniping of yesterday) is up to now -
I'm kind of waiting for the point in all these reports when the second phase of the Spanish Flu comes around for a rematch. They say October was the worst but that's accounting spreading to civilian areas. The narrative I see is that the second phase came out of Europe amidst all the fighting.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Bleh, looks like I've really got to stop slacking and learn French.

So amphetamines! I know Nazis past and present are famous for taking heroic amounts of speed, and that it was common during the time period, but are there any interesting anecdotes about the Red Army? Any other drugs, besides the vodka ration, or were they reserved for the athletes?

Huh.
I really hope it's just correlation and not causation between Nazis and amphetamines, it'd really suck if the alt-right was caused by Ritalin :tinfoil:

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Rockopolis posted:

Bleh, looks like I've really got to stop slacking and learn French.

So amphetamines! I know Nazis past and present are famous for taking heroic amounts of speed, and that it was common during the time period, but are there any interesting anecdotes about the Red Army? Any other drugs, besides the vodka ration, or were they reserved for the athletes?

Huh.
I really hope it's just correlation and not causation between Nazis and amphetamines, it'd really suck if the alt-right was caused by Ritalin :tinfoil:

I don't know about the Soviets, but the USAAF and USN were both enthusiastic users of amphetamines. I don't know when or if they stopped that, but the US military in general is full of stories about guys hopped up on combat uppers.

I know the Soviets had some kind of notoriously awful sub-ditch-weed-grade tobacco that they smoked copiously.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



If you’re already an English speaker, French is arguably the easiest language to learn.

Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks still suck but you don't gotta hand it to the Axis either.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I don't know about the Soviets, but the USAAF and USN were both enthusiastic users of amphetamines. I don't know when or if they stopped that, but the US military in general is full of stories about guys hopped up on combat uppers.

I know the Soviets had some kind of notoriously awful sub-ditch-weed-grade tobacco that they smoked copiously.

Makhorka. Rough tobacco that rest of the world used as pesticide, Red Army used as ration cigarettes. Grown in russia and ukraine.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Ardent Communist posted:

I was trying to. I already said I feel an obligation to defend communist states, both their mistakes and their triumphs. Don't loving bring them up if you don't have something nice to say, and I won't feel the need to post in response.

"Mistakes" like genociding millions.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Valtonen posted:

Makhorka. Rough tobacco that rest of the world used as pesticide, Red Army used as ration cigarettes. Grown in russia and ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotiana_rustica

It's a hardier but worse tasting variety. And the reason it's used for pesticide is because it has more nicotine.

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Valtonen posted:

Makhorka. Rough tobacco that rest of the world used as pesticide, Red Army used as ration cigarettes. Grown in russia and ukraine.

IIRC, Ordinary tobacco of those days was around 1% nicotine (modern strains go as high as 3%, in a well-known tactic to increase addiction). This sort averages 9%.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Women would be issued chocolate instead of mahorka. I think I would go for the chocolate as well.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Where do you get chocolate, in the Soviet Union, during the Great Patriotic War? South America, Africa...is there somewhere in Central Asia that Cacao grows?

Edit
Chocolate?
At this time of year? At this time of the war? In this part of the world? Localized entirely within your women's rations?

Rockopolis fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Sep 14, 2018

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
To confirm, that Overlord movie is JJ Abrams doing paratroopers in WW2 vs Nazi super-science.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Grand Fromage posted:

It folds down to get under a bridge that it has to cross under to get in and out of its home port.

Wouldn't it be easier to bring down the hostile bridge with missiles and bombs

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Rockopolis posted:

Where do you get chocolate, in the Soviet Union, during the Great Patriotic War? South America, Africa...is there somewhere in Central Asia that Cacao grows?

The US sent over a huge amount of chocolate.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Ensign Expendable posted:

Women would be issued chocolate instead of mahorka. I think I would go for the chocolate as well.

How much pesticides does cheap chocolate contain, anyway...

Hunterhr
Jan 4, 2007

And The Beast, Satan said unto the LORD, "You Fucking Suck" and juked him out of his goddamn shoes

Lets go Delta Green cinematic universe!

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Hunterhr posted:

Lets go Delta Green cinematic universe!

I mean I was going to say that it's good to see Wolfenstein get a big budget movie but I like your idea more.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Zorak of Michigan posted:

Having seen Intrepid in New York last month, I've been thinking a lot about aircraft carriers lately. Is it my imagination, or did everything get dull once the supercarrier template with the angle deck and the catapults was established? Even Ford just tries to make incremental improvements on an old template.

Eh, airports are kinda boring and samey too when all you have to look at is the runways, a maintenance shed, and a control tower. :shrug:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Xiahou Dun posted:

If you’re already an English speaker, French is arguably the easiest language to learn.

I'm curious why you would say that. In my personal experience Spanish is easier to learn (definitely when it comes to pronunciation!); in terms of linguistic similarity I'd have thought Dutch would be closer.

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

SeanBeansShako posted:

Maybe they should have used the S.T.A.L.I.N.I.S.T ruleset instead.

You mean Kulaks & Kommissars?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

feedmegin posted:

I'm curious why you would say that. In my personal experience Spanish is easier to learn (definitely when it comes to pronunciation!); in terms of linguistic similarity I'd have thought Dutch would be closer.

Anecdotally l, I’ve taken classes in French, Spanish, and German and German was a lot easier for me to pick up. It’s the I my one that I got reasonably proficient with.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
On the subject of Extremely Dedicated Communists

Exactly how badly compromised/pro-Soviet was British intelligence and the upper echelons of government in the late 40s-early 50s? All I know is what I researched a long time ago for a study on the RR Nene, and I also watched Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy at least twice.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
As I am currently sliding around the RN/WW2 sides of my always growing collection of books I am kind of curious now about the interwar history and state of the Royal Navy.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
I think for Canadians French seems easier because you have all the unconscious exposure thanks to the language laws, particularly in those critical early years.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Very small parts of Canada actually speak French to an appreciable degree. Your average south Ontarian knows roughly gently caress all French, despite having all the bilingual packaging.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Ensign Expendable posted:

Very small parts of Canada actually speak French to an appreciable degree. Your average south Ontarian knows roughly gently caress all French, despite having all the bilingual packaging.

aye I’m from Newfoundland which had the lowest bilingual rates of any province iirc and my francais goes from non-existent to embarrassing. I do know the words for lots of eg foods because of bilingual printing though.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Free French should be the easiest, much of the vocabulary is loan words like le Springfield, le Sherman etc.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Nenonen posted:

Free French should be the easiest, much of the vocabulary is loan words like le Springfield, le Sherman etc.

Well you get what you pay for

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

le cercueil enflammé

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


The section of the US State Department that teaches languages breaks them down into categories by ease to learn for US native english speakers.

quote:

Category I: 23-24 weeks (575-600 hours)
Languages closely related to English
Afrikaans
Danish
Dutch
French
Italian
Norwegian
Portuguese
Romanian
Spanish
Swedish

Category II: 30 weeks (750 hours)
Languages similar to English
German

Category III: 36 weeks (900 hours)
Languages with linguistic and/or cultural differences from English
Indonesian
Malaysian
Swahili

Category IV: 44 weeks (1100 hours)
Languages with significant linguistic and/or cultural differences from English
Albanian
Amharic
Armenian
Azerbaijani
Bengali
Bosnian
Bulgarian
Burmese
Croatian
Czech
*Estonian
*Finnish
*Georgian
Greek
Hebrew
Hindi
*Hungarian
Icelandic
Khmer
Lao
Latvian
Lithuanian
Macedonian
*Mongolian
Nepali
Pashto
Persian (Dari, Farsi, Tajik)
Polish
Russian
Serbian
Sinhala
Slovak
Slovenian
Tagalog
*Thai
Turkish
Ukrainian
Urdu
Uzbek
*Vietnamese
Xhosa
Zulu

Category V: 88 weeks (2200 hours)
Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers
Arabic
Cantonese (Chinese)
Mandarin (Chinese)
*Japanese
Korean

* Usually more difficult than other languages in the same category.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

quote:

Cantonese (Chinese)

Yeah - I can't wrap my brain around that one.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Nenonen posted:

Free French should be the easiest, much of the vocabulary is loan words like le Springfield, le Sherman etc.

To be fair, that's just paying it back, virtually all the WW1 American Expeditionary Force's equipment heavier than a rifle was given to them by the French.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

feedmegin posted:

I'm curious why you would say that. In my personal experience Spanish is easier to learn (definitely when it comes to pronunciation!); in terms of linguistic similarity I'd have thought Dutch would be closer.

French pronunciation is actually really straightforward. It’s unintuitive when you’re first learning but there’s no tomb/bomb/comb poo poo. Anglophones also get tripped up by sounds they apparently can’t differentiate, like eu vs u.

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Randomcheese3
Sep 6, 2011

"It's like no cheese I've ever tasted."

SeanBeansShako posted:

As I am currently sliding around the RN/WW2 sides of my always growing collection of books I am kind of curious now about the interwar history and state of the Royal Navy.

There are essentially two historical viewpoints on this; an older one espoused by authors like Arthur Marder and Stephen Roskill (the two big authors writing on British naval history in the period from the end of WWII through to the 1980s), and a revisionist viewpoint that's more commonly put forward by authors today. The older view is that the RN in the interwar period was overly focused on re-fighting Jutland, developing tactics for fighting and winning a massive fleet action. As such, they ignored the lessons of WWI on anti-submarine warfare and failed to predict the impact of things like aircraft carriers and amphibious operations. The more modern viewpoint is that the RN made sensible, if conservative, developments in areas like ASW and aviation, particularly given the thinking that prevailed at the time; for example, the RN's focus on heavy AA armaments and deck armour as defence against aircraft in its building programmes in the 1930s makes sense given the fact that without radar, the low-performance biplane fighters commonly used on carriers at the time could not effectively catch an incoming bomber before it made its attack. Similarly, the RN's ASW doctrine (lightly escorted convoys to protect merchant ships supported by hunting groups to kill U-boats, as well as a focus on protecting shipping in the waters around the UK) was based on that which had worked well in 1917-18, but failed to predict the Kriegsmarine's use of wolfpacks, nor the Fall of France. While the hunting groups were disbanded to provide extra escorts for convoys in 1940-43, they would be reformed once sufficient escorts were available, and proved highly effective at killing U-boats. If people are interested, I can go into more detail on this later.

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