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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Lol imagine thinking the actual researchers are gonna be the ones making billions, and not the execs that own and run the company the researchers work for lol, ou luddite, amazing innovators and scientists like Elizabeth Holmes and Elon Musk get personally rewarded by the marketplace for their awesome new technologies
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Lol imagine thinking the actual researchers are gonna be the ones making billions, and not the execs that own and run the company the researchers work for i was assuming government funded R&D was just basically grants to university researchers, who do tend to be the ones that found companies if their research has business potential. someone has to understand the research after all, and who better than the researchers themselves. they usually get a business-savvy co-founder, and get nice company stock options.
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qkkl posted:i was assuming government funded R&D was just basically grants to university researchers, who do tend to be the ones that found companies if their research has business potential. someone has to understand the research after all, and who better than the researchers themselves. they usually get a business-savvy co-founder, and get nice company stock options. I don't think you have anywhere near as accurate a picture of pharmaceutical research as you seem to think you do.
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qkkl posted:bezos is a legit genius, i'd rather him be in charge of the education system then someone who got the job because of connections. Bezos hasnt worked a day in his life and is lazy as poo poo and is stupid as poo poo and should probably be loving murdered and all his money taken from him
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i spent 7 years doing security work in my early 20s and the same thing would happen managers would scream and meltdown if you said "no" to mandatory overtime it was great
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qkkl posted:i was assuming government funded R&D was just basically grants to university researchers, who do tend to be the ones that found companies if their research has business potential. someone has to understand the research after all, and who better than the researchers themselves. they usually get a business-savvy co-founder, and get nice company stock options. certainly not ruthless
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WampaLord posted:
This is 100% correct and another example of "privatized profit, socialized risk." Research is rarely profitable.
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mycomancy posted:This is 100% correct and another example of "privatized profit, socialized risk." Research is rarely profitable. Lol we need research to further technology You can't just make something without resea- Oh Silicon Valley...right
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qkkl posted:bezos is a legit genius, i'd rather him be in charge of the education system then someone who got the job because of connections. qkkl posted:The purpose of allowing companies to make a profit would be to give an incentive for future companies to develop new drugs. Even if the R&D is funded by the government it would still be good to give those researchers who receive the government funds an incentive to work hard. A researcher would work harder on developing the cure for cancer if they knew that they would be a billionaire if they succeeded, as opposed to just receiving their government funded salary. 3/10, subpar trolling. I'd give it a 2/10 but some people are responding earnestly.
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Siljmonster posted:Lol we need research to further technology You managed to type all these words yet not say anything with them. Christ I hate this thread being in CSPAM.
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https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/14/news/companies/sears-pension-retirees/index.htmlquote:What's to blame for the problems at Sears? Amazon? Bad management? This is after they paid the sears canada board millions of dollars through the death spiral while loving all their regular employees with criminally underfunded pensions.
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mycomancy posted:You managed to type all these words yet not say anything with them. Christ I hate this thread being in CSPAM. TRUMP
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My wife and I’s gross household income is apparently enough to be considered “middle class.” had a good chuckle at that. Can’t even afford to buy a decent house or have kids yet. I heard a lot of people actually do both of those 
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lol just stop eating avocado on toast at cafes. That’s why I can’t afford a house apparently.
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:My wife and I’s gross household income is apparently enough to be considered “middle class.”
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:My wife and I’s gross household income is apparently enough to be considered “middle class.” at this point "middle class" means you're not eating unsold bread out of the bakery dumpster. anything to avoid saying the words "working class" or "working poor"
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mycomancy posted:You managed to type all these words yet not say anything with them. Christ I hate this thread being in CSPAM. shuyt hte gently caress up i posted like poo poo when this dumb poo poo was in GBS go whine somewhere else you fuckiong bootlicker
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Lol imagine thinking the actual researchers are gonna be the ones making billions, and not the execs that own and run the company the researchers work for Reminder that most of the "cost" of making a new drug is actually accounting fiction, made up of missed gains - how much they'd have made if they had invested the R&D money in the stock market instead - and not the actual cost of drug development
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qkkl posted:A researcher would work harder on developing the cure for cancer if they knew that they would be a billionaire if they succeeded, as opposed to just receiving their government funded salary.
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Bloodfart McCoy posted:My wife and I’s gross household income is apparently enough to be considered “middle class.” which means half of income earners earn below that
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also the researchers who invented insulin treatment for diabetics and the polio vaccine literally made their works publicly available for free with the intent of doing the most public good instead of focusing on trying to strike it rich
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comedyblissoption posted:also the researchers who invented insulin treatment for diabetics and the polio vaccine literally made their works publicly available for free with the intent of doing the most public good instead of focusing on trying to strike it rich morons were probably suffering from syphilis. smdh
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qkkl posted:The purpose of allowing companies to make a profit would be to give an incentive for future companies to develop new drugs. Even if the R&D is funded by the government it would still be good to give those researchers who receive the government funds an incentive to work hard. A researcher would work harder on developing the cure for cancer if they knew that they would be a billionaire if they succeeded, as opposed to just receiving their government funded salary. Cancer researcher here, now cancer clinical trial manager: you are a moron But also, lol at anyone who thinks the majority of R&D costs are borne by the taxpayer. The NIH got $37bn this year, which is the R&D budget of like 4 of the larger pharmas. There are many pharma companies. Not saying that pharma doesn't profit from fundamental research subsided by state institutions, but I have to lol at how wildly skewed the public perception of the pharma model is WeAreTheRomans has issued a correction as of 08:10 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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are we still the society that puts poison on food that isn’t sold to stop beggars eating it out of the trash bin?
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mycomancy posted:You managed to type all these words yet not say anything with them. Christ I hate this thread being in CSPAM. Lol pining for gbs quality
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Zenithe posted:Auspol Crosspost those good dogs do not deserve this
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They look sad Poor Bruce & Gary. Poor renters.
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comedyblissoption posted:also the researchers who invented insulin treatment for diabetics and the polio vaccine literally made their works publicly available for free with the intent of doing the most public good instead of focusing on trying to strike it rich it's true that some researchers aren't driven by the goal of getting money. but some are, so it would be good to get those more materialistic researchers on board with monetary incentives, otherwise their talents would be lost to more lucrative fields.
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qkkl posted:it's true that some researchers aren't driven by the goal of getting money. but some are, so it would be good to get those more materialistic researchers on board with monetary incentives, otherwise their talents would be lost to more lucrative fields. brb gonna go back to college and get a new degree because this field wont make me rich enough
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Lol if you want to make bank, you don't go into biomedical research science. "All I care about is money. Should I get any job in the finance industry? No, let's try to become one of the top <1% researchers in the world."
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Imagine forcing your employees to use someone else's paid time off for any reason.
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Pomplamoose posted:
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The organization I work for routinely sends out sick leave donation requests on behalf of folks who need it. Since most of the people requesting it were women, I figured it was all pregnancy-related. Then I found out you're not allowed to use sick leave for anything beyond the initial hospital portion of childbirth, so everything after that has to be covered by your accrued vacation days, which we cannot donate. All those people requesting sick leave donations were doing it because they had cancer or something equally terrible. Fingers crossed that people will be feeling generous when it's my turn to die on the payroll. God bless America. 
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Why do you people put up with that crap? Why can’t sick people be given proper paid leave?
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Why do you people put up with that crap? Why can’t sick people be given proper paid leave? People don't put up with that crap, which is why we voted for Donald Trump for president because he's going to fix everything Obama broke about the economy like that 
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Why do you people put up with that crap? Why can’t sick people be given proper paid leave? because America’s captains of industry have concentrated capital into so few hands that they maintain a massive pool of unemployed talent to pick from in order to immediately replace any employee caught slacking
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I asked a friend who gets that mythical thing called sick time what it's like once. His answer was "I get 5 a year and I've used 4 because getting up on Mondays is rough" Fucker.
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