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Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Or, and stick with me here because this can get tricky for people who like you were apparently born without brains, maybe the context in question is clear as loving day to anyone with eyes to see and the slightest comprehension of how these dipshits operate.

Well, we have some of the finest understanders-of-context here, maybe it really will work out. :unsmith:

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mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Bedlamdan posted:

There's differences in local custom, that's always going to be a thing. And then there's local custom changing in the span of a year because the chuds declared it thus, and everyone just shrugging and saying 'well, yes, now it's just hopelessly tainted so it's yours now'

i agree, i cant do my racist buckwheat impressions now thanks to the nazis

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

sleeptalker posted:

So it's widely-known and reviled enough to destroy peoples' reputations if they get photographed doing it, but also only a thing known by extremely online people that normal people might do with no idea what it means? Okay.

You see, by means of a continuous shifting rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

Also, never believe that bedlamdan is unaware of the absurdity of his replies. He knows that his remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But he is amusing himself, for he knows that his adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Or, and stick with me here because this can get tricky for people who like you were apparently born without brains, maybe the context in question is clear as loving day to anyone with eyes to see and the slightest comprehension of how these dipshits operate.

*asks web designer to whip up a new banner for the company's online shop, he makes an ok gesture and says "ok"*

*Guy wearing a MAGA hat and a shirt that says FREE HELICOPTER RIDES makes an ok gesture while flipping off a random passerby*

Bedlamdan: Hmmmmm these things seem the same, to me

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I host one little meeting of godless communists and come back to 180 new posts and think to myself, "I guess some drifter floated in and wants to tell us about how everything is prescriptive and context is irrelevant" and looks like I was correct again

Duscat
Jan 4, 2009
Fun Shoe

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Lara Loomer is 25

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



also the white power one looks completely different than "okay" and "hand gesture while speaking emphatically" as done by normies

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Lastgirl posted:

can we ban this emote ---> :nws: :discourse: :nws:

well if this is what discourse in the 219 is like, i have no choice

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Oh, nice, a rally to protest Ajit Pai and Trump's interventionism to give more of the public sphere to private monop -

oh

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Epic High Five posted:

also the white power one looks completely different than "okay" and "hand gesture while speaking emphatically" as done by normies

What's the difference?

Morphix
May 21, 2003

by Reene

etalian posted:

Lara Loomer is 25

no loving way, i mean being a shithead for sure ages you, but it can't be that fast

Morphix
May 21, 2003

by Reene

Bedlamdan posted:

What's the difference?

mostly you making GBS threads on yourself, you should stop that and get yourself diaped up my man

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Bedlamdan posted:

What's the difference?

it takes a conscious effort to make the three fingers for a W like in the dumb virtue signalling chan bullshit, whereas more natural usage has the pinky extended much farther than the other two, because those fingers are irrelevant to the focal point which is the thumb and forefinger's meeting point

when used while speaking, it's more like a fist than a WP

it's why in a lot of pictures you see of people flashing it, they're doing so by pressing their fingers against an object or their arm, because it's more difficult for them to make a proper W with those 3 fingers. This was most evident in the picture of the lady behind the Nazi whose husband played dumb but turns out they're both super in bed with the fash

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

She has aged visibly since she first forced herself onto the internet as well. She looks younger in that ashkenazi tits video from, what, five months ago?

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Morphix posted:

mostly you making GBS threads on yourself, you should stop that and get yourself diaped up my man

Bitch I was asking forums user Epic High Five

Epic High Five posted:

it takes a conscious effort to make the three fingers for a W like in the dumb virtue signalling chan bullshit, whereas more natural usage has the pinky extended much farther than the other two, because those fingers are irrelevant to the focal point which is the thumb and forefinger's meeting point

when used while speaking, it's more like a fist than a WP

it's why in a lot of pictures you see of people flashing it, they're doing so by pressing their fingers against an object or their arm, because it's more difficult for them to make a proper W with those 3 fingers. This was most evident in the picture of the lady behind the Nazi whose husband played dumb but turns out they're both super in bed with the fash

Thank you, forums user Epic High Five.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

business hammocks posted:

She has aged visibly since she first forced herself onto the internet as well. She looks younger in that ashkenazi tits video from, what, five months ago?

that vid is like, a couple years old im p sure

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Bedlamdan posted:

Okay, maybe I really am just retarded and the okay sign is actually still fine to use, outside of these specific contexts where we just know what the other guy really meant, and we can accurately judge between the two in all cases.

Pretty much. Like, somehow, their brief use of "yahoos", "googles" and "skittles" as racial slurs came and went and didn't taint those words forever (but it was extremely clear to anyone what they really meant when they were still in use)

We're not talking about Rosicrucians here, dude. These people can't keep a secret or their mouth shut for two consecutive minutes about their repellent beliefs. There isn't as much ambiguity as you seem to think

Bedlamdan posted:

I don't think we can, really, but whatever I guess, this poo poo ain't my problem.

Sorry about your shortcomings

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

not like it takes a lot of effort to make his lovely redpill comics

but the fact that he put any effort into the joke is loving pathetic

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1041095646852390919

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Chillgamesh posted:

*asks web designer to whip up a new banner for the company's online shop, he makes an ok gesture and says "ok"*

*Guy wearing a MAGA hat and a shirt that says FREE HELICOPTER RIDES makes an ok gesture while flipping off a random passerby*

Bedlamdan: Hmmmmm these things seem the same, to me

but how can we know if the free helicopter rides shirt is about a method of execution favored by south american military juntas or if it's just an aircraft enthusiast trying to spread the love? there's just no way to be sure, let's not judge the guy here

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




that's $22,500/hr going by a 40 hour week

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Epic High Five posted:

that's $22,500/hr going by a 40 hour week

woops wrong thread, but I guess its technically not because the administration openly supports nazis :shrug:

Old Story
Jun 2, 2006

Oven Wrangler
ugh have you guys considered that swastikas meant something different before the Nazis co-opted it? Are we really just gonna let them have it? Look, there's still lots of people in other countries still using it, are we supposed to somehow magically know when it's racist or not based on context??? Furthermore, I'm retarded

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

hackbunny posted:

Sorry about your shortcomings

He looked like he scratched his ear for less than a second, that isn't exactly as unsubtle or blatant as people here keep making it out to be. The only evidence we have of any actual misdeeds on his part apart from that is the coast guard removing him, and they're more than likely just afraid of the bad press that resulted. The fact that they don't name him or specify any disciplinary action outside of this is also sorta telling.

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here who thinks that way though so uh, you guys do you. If it comes out that he really was a racist outside of this, well, then I'll scrutinize the ok sign a lot more then.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
J--

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Bedlamdan posted:

He looked like he scratched his ear for less than a second, that isn't exactly as unsubtle or blatant as people here keep making it out to be. The only evidence we have of any actual misdeeds on his part apart from that is the coast guard removing him, and they're more than likely just afraid of the bad press that resulted. The fact that they don't name him or specify any disciplinary action outside of this is also sorta telling.

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here who thinks that way though so uh, you guys do you. If it comes out that he really was a racist outside of this, well, then I'll scrutinize the ok sign a lot more then.

the military seems to know enough about the dude to immediately come down on him like a hammer

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Epic High Five posted:

the military seems to know enough about the dude to immediately come down on him like a hammer

Or they just didn't want the bad press that came with people's complaints. People have been scrutinizing the Cost Guard for more blatant and obviously racist stuff recently.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Bedlamdan posted:

People have been scrutinizing the Cost Guard for more blatant and obviously racist stuff recently.

is this the context you were talking about earlier

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

mormonpartyboat posted:

is this the context you were talking about earlier

I think entering a black cadet's room and playing a song that romanticizes the South while changing his desktop to a confederate flag is a little more blatant and actionable than touching your motherfucking ear for half a second.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/2017/10/30/white-coast-guard-cadet-investigated-for-playing-racist-song/

So yeah, context. Dude caused a bad look for them online, they were already being scrutinized for this poo poo before, and even if it was completely innocent it's safer and less of a headache to just look like you're doing something and remove him pending an investigation. :shrug:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I’ll never understand the “He’s just scratching!” or “It was a coincidence of how her arm was resting” excuse. Make that sign with your own hand. There’s nothing natural or even comfortable about that position for either of those activities.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Old Story posted:

ugh have you guys considered that swastikas meant something different before the Nazis co-opted it? Are we really just gonna let them have it? Look, there's still lots of people in other countries still using it, are we supposed to somehow magically know when it's racist or not based on context??? Furthermore, I'm retarded

drat beat me to it.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Epic High Five posted:

the military seems to know enough about the dude to immediately come down on him like a hammer

pretty much if it looks like youre doing a weird flash ok thing because you noticed you were on camera, like this guy or the person sitting behind judge rapey, and it turns out you match the exact profile of someone who'd do dumb pol poo poo like that, thats when its a nazi hand signal thing i think that seems pretty reasonable and obvious

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
the extreme right wing would never engage in plausibly deniable hate speech or other signalling of affiliation, its v important to give them the benefit of the doubt guys, just like they give everybody else

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I came across this one:



But wouldn't the ancap be on the same side as the capitalist guy in the top hat, according to his own ideology? what?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Bedlamdan posted:

Or they just didn't want the bad press that came with people's complaints. People have been scrutinizing the Cost Guard for more blatant and obviously racist stuff recently.

woke Twitter must be extremely powerful

Morphix
May 21, 2003

by Reene

Pornographic Memory posted:

the extreme right wing would never engage in plausibly deniable hate speech or other signalling of affiliation, its v important to give them the benefit of the doubt guys, just like they give everybody else

look man, context

context okay?

context matters

all contexts matter?

q

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Pornographic Memory posted:

the extreme right wing would never engage in plausibly deniable hate speech or other signalling of affiliation, its v important to give them the benefit of the doubt guys, just like they give everybody else

Shoot anyone who scratches an itch in a way the internet thinks is a little weird, imho.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

I came across this one:



But wouldn't the ancap be on the same side as the capitalist guy in the top hat, according to his own ideology? what?

And he doesn't find it odd or off-putting that he's on the same side as the fascist :thunk:

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I gotta admit though, he caught me red-handed here:

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