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Ipsos: 47-53 -2 on ALP.
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It's impossible not to be racist, complains racist.
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Sep 16, 2018 10:51
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"Uh, I don't think we can publish this cartoon of Serena with a bone through her nose cooking cartoonists wearing colonial gear in a giant cauldron. It's not going to play well." "Ugh, mind telling me what I CAN draw?"
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Sep 16, 2018 10:55
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Anidav posted:Ipsos: 47-53 -2 on ALP. Doesn't ipsos have an lnp slant?
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Sep 16, 2018 11:04
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Hobo Erotica posted:Hey everyone, how we doing Never mind then I guess.
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Sep 16, 2018 11:17
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the two genders
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Sep 16, 2018 11:17
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All of the pollsters are landline callers, when was the last time you heard of someone under 40 answering one of those?
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Sep 16, 2018 11:18
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https://twitter.com/SilkArachnid/status/911820164982759424
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Sep 16, 2018 11:37
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polls hosed m8 https://twitter.com/kevinbonham/status/1041255672237613056 https://twitter.com/Kroxigor01/status/1041269377012654080
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Sep 16, 2018 11:41
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https://twitter.com/J_C_Campbell/status/1041263310845308928 https://twitter.com/andrewprobyn/status/1041270916808765446 lol
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Sep 16, 2018 11:48
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norp posted:All of the pollsters are landline callers, when was the last time you heard of someone under 40 answering one of those? Not true. These polls have strict age and residency quotas and yes, they call mobiles.
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Sep 16, 2018 11:53
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Sep 16, 2018 12:01
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https://twitter.com/OzKitsch/status/1041173172215672832
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Sep 16, 2018 12:27
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Sep 16, 2018 12:33
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I am really beginning to actively dislike all parody sites.
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Sep 16, 2018 12:36
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Sep 16, 2018 12:54
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-10/namatjira-breaks-from-family-style-with-bold2c-fresh-paintings/6610260
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Sep 16, 2018 12:59
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https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/premier-gladys-berejiklian-shut-down-defqon1/quote:In an unprecedented statement, New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian has vowed to shut down the “unsafe” dance music festival Defqon1 following the deaths of two punters overnight.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:15
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My first car was a stick
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Sep 16, 2018 13:24
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    It's amazing how easy it is when you're not a racist.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:25
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Megillah Gorilla posted:
None of these are political satire or caricatures.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:31
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WaPo had an article on the very subjectquote:“It’s not hard to caricature a black person. Just don’t do it like they did it 100 years ago,” says Bell, an RFK Award-winning cartoonist.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:35
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JBP posted:None of these are political satire or caricatures.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:35
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Neither of which was specified in the tweet. There is a visible public furore re a newspaper editorial cartoon right now, but awesome comic books. JBP fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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Sep 16, 2018 13:37
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If you google image search "Serena Williams caricature" you'll find some that are obviously her. I still have no idea how Knight is still employed, because he's completely useless at the one thing he's employed to do. I mean you can still kinda-sorta work out who he's drawing most of the time, but surely there's better folks out there?
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Sep 16, 2018 13:39
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Doctor Spaceman posted:WaPo had an article on the very subject Why are they all positive comments on her behaviour in this article? Of course she's drawn favourably.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:40
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froglet posted:If you google image search "Serena Williams caricature" you'll find some that are obviously her. News Corpse
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Sep 16, 2018 13:41
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JBP posted:There is a visible public future re a newspaper editorial cartoon right now, but awesome comic books. And the "point" of the tweet is that, no matter how hard you try, you just can't draw a black person without it looking racist. I mean, why is this so hard for you to understand? Do you work for The Spectator, or something?
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Sep 16, 2018 13:44
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The limited amount of article says you can't draw big lips. I guess you can't or shouldn't.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:45
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JBP posted:The limited amount of article says you can't draw big lips. I guess you can't or shouldn't. The article can be found by using Google but we all know how much effort you're putting in to this.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:48
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We are talking specifically about the tweet and nothing outside of it though, those are the rules being given.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:48
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poo poo political cartoons are to JBP what Mia Freedman is to Hobo Erotica.
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Sep 16, 2018 13:59
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Pope is the only one I like.
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Sep 16, 2018 14:02
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I do actually think that there will come a time when there is a legitimate discussion to be had about how to caricature black people. Hopefully more people of colour will be entering politics. When they are on the left it can be safely assumed that the insulting caricatures come from racists, since the right is pretty consistently racist. But there are going to be more Ben Carsons and David Clarkes. There will be someone who is the political version of Diamond and Silk, a black person deliberately elevated by the right because they support their causes while being black. The examples in that article were all caricature depictions sympathetic to and in favour of the person being depicted, the intention is to make them look good. There will be a need to draw negative caricatures, like caveman/monkey Abbott or potato Dutton. It's going to take political cartoonists with skill to not gently caress this up, and even then it will be easy for anyone who wants to shut a cartoon down to level racism accusations at it even if it isn't sambo style. That being said the people having that conversation right now are not the people I want to be associated with.
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Sep 16, 2018 14:06
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Fed Government in 4 Corners interview: "We have no need for a Royal Commission". Day before 4 Corners comes out: "We are going to need a Royal Commission". "
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Sep 16, 2018 14:21
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JBP posted:We are talking specifically about the tweet and nothing outside of it though, those are the rules being given. Birdstrike posted:this is an odd choice of hill for you to die on
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Sep 16, 2018 14:24
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Comstar posted:Fed Government in 4 Corners interview: "We have no need for a Royal Commission". Yeah, seeing Ken Wyatt slagging off the idea of a RC then changing his tune this morning is definitely going to be used for Labor attack ads at the next election
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Sep 16, 2018 14:30
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it’s not like the government ever does anything with the recommendations from royal commissions
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Sep 16, 2018 14:35
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Age care sucks because it has been open to the free market for a long time and is dominated by for profit multinational companies and religious not-for-profits with dodgy corporate cultures and suspiciously well furnished offices in prime locations. Disability support is much better, but the NDIS trojan horsed free market ideology into policy under the guise of it being person centered by virtue of enabling choice. It is only a matter of time before that quality is eroded away.
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Sep 16, 2018 14:38
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Sorry to keep harping on the racist cartoon: But in saying "there is no way to caricature black people without it looking racist", is to me akin to saying "all black people look alike." Because look at the 10,000,000 white people in the public eye that have been caricatured, each one still looked vaguely like them, and distinct from the 9,999,999 others. Mark Knight wasn't drawing a caricature of Serena Williams, he was doing a caricature of a black person. Because rather than caricature the person themselves, or their particular features, he caricatured their race. Which is bad and racist. BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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