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long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I finished my skirmish force for an escalation league that starts tomorrow. They're far from amazing, but I learned a ton just from painting these 8, so I hope my army will look really rad once it's all done in a few months.

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Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
Stupid question: Does humidity also affect adhesive when building minis? I tried putting some of the Deathwing Knights together today out in the shed (because I needed someplace that was somewhat ventilated to use the Tamiya Extra Thin cement). However, it's raining, and the humidity is around 70%. It started getting messed up when I tried to attach the torso to the legs. I tried putting extra amounts of cement, and then super glue, but it wouldn't stay attached.

Badablack
Apr 17, 2018
Well, moisture makes super glue dry faster. Dunno what it would do to plastic glue though.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

The edge highlighting makes it look a little cartoony, but I like that, so shine on you magnificent bastard.

Badablack
Apr 17, 2018
You know what really doesn’t help your painting backlog? An actual decent non lovely Spider-Man game.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Badablack posted:

Well, moisture makes super glue dry faster. Dunno what it would do to plastic glue though.

It could be that's it's cold too. That might make it dry slower. It probably didn't help that when I was first trying to glue it, part of it fell off and fell into a pan of oil that was under the workbench, meaning I had to go and try and wash it off to continue. :negative:

I checked it a few minutes ago, and it seems to have bonded fully now. I didn't get the little blade the goes on torso on, but I guess I can try that again later. For now, it's got excess glue covered on it. Hopefully, I can peel it off, and hopefully the other don't have any issues.


Badablack posted:

You know what really doesn’t help your painting backlog? An actual decent non lovely Spider-Man game.

I also love Neversoft's Spider-Man.

I know you mean the Insomniac game (which I've heard is good, haven't picked it up yet), but the PS1 Spider-Man games were good, too.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?
Just finished up two Kastelan Robots with custom heads and pauldrons and everything magnetized. Took a while to find the custom bits and a paint style that I actually enjoyed on these guys, and I really like how they turned out.




Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Duct Tape posted:

Just finished up two Kastelan Robots with custom heads and pauldrons and everything magnetized. Took a while to find the custom bits and a paint style that I actually enjoyed on these guys, and I really like how they turned out.






I love the verdigris on the head-hood-thing.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Badablack posted:

You know what really doesn’t help your painting backlog? An actual decent non lovely Spider-Man game.

This, but Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug

Max Wilco posted:

(because I needed someplace that was somewhat ventilated to use the Tamiya Extra Thin cement).

Wait, does tamiya require more ventilation than normally when huffing glue assembling models?

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Revelation 2-13 posted:

Wait, does tamiya require more ventilation than normally when huffing glue assembling models?

Extra Thin is going to evaporate a lot more readily so you'll breathe in more of it, but unless you're gluing a lot of stuff, I don't know that you really need more than a decent-sized room and the ability to open the window when you're done.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

big_g posted:

I have on a whim done some edge highlighting which may look at bit obtrusive at this scale but I think will work especially with a bit more weathering to go. What do you think?


I agree that the edge highlighting looks a little cartoony, but I think it will also really help the minis pop on the tabletop. As a good test, take a look at them from 3 to 4 feet away, ideally on/next to some terrain.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?

Schadenboner posted:

I love the verdigris on the head-hood-thing.

Thanks! I was going for a fairly subtle look on that, and I think it turned out well. Was pretty easy too. Painted the head Balthasar Gold, washed with Agrax Earthshade then Nuln Oil. Washed the whole head with Nihlikh Oxide (the verdigris paint), then dabbed up most of it with a paper towel. Once dry, I gave the head one additional wash of Agrax Earthshade to mute down the verdigris.

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug
Finished a few more recruits for my Deathwatch Kill Team.



Left to right we have:

Brother Tryris Solari, a Sniper from the Raptors chapter. He scored a lot of kills at NOVA, including a great long-range shot on an enemy AdMech sniper.

Brother Vorn Garadon AKA The Wall. He can shrug off damage that would take out a Terminator. Notably, he tanked multiple flamer hits and some plasma while charging once and then utterly wrecked his opponents.

Sgt. Gunnar Orksbane, rather reckless for a Sergeant, he is apt to charge even in the face overwhelming fire. Particularly memorable was a charge on 6 different Tau soldiers, including 3 pathfinders armed with special weapons. He survived their devastating overwatch and proceeded to massacre his way through the soft Tau bodies.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Duct Tape posted:

Thanks! I was going for a fairly subtle look on that, and I think it turned out well. Was pretty easy too. Painted the head Balthasar Gold, washed with Agrax Earthshade then Nuln Oil. Washed the whole head with Nihlikh Oxide (the verdigris paint), then dabbed up most of it with a paper towel. Once dry, I gave the head one additional wash of Agrax Earthshade to mute down the verdigris.

You mentioned they were custom heads: where from? The only ones I know are Wargame Exclusive's (if you're able to set their :yikes: tiddy models aside they make really good vehicle parts) but those don't look like the ones you have.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?

Schadenboner posted:

You mentioned they were custom heads: where from? The only ones I know are Wargame Exclusive's (if you're able to set their :yikes: tiddy models aside they make really good vehicle parts) but those don't look like the ones you have.

Heads: https://www.shapeways.com/product/SYV65ZEAZ/martian-robot-castle-head-for-conversion?optionId=62730238
Pauldrons: https://www.shapeways.com/product/UJWQKXQAC/castle-type-pauldron-version-2-x4?optionId=63817532

They were a bit pricey, but I'd rather spend the extra $10 per model to build ones that I love, rather than fricken Baymax from Big Hero 6.

Warning though, the head is a couple millimeters narrower and shallower than the in-box one, meaning it just sort of floats around in the neck socket. I had to make a green stuff base inside the torso for the head to rest on. Once it was attached there, I then had to greenstuff the whole area where the head meets the neck to make them actually connect. I picked up a set of silicon clay brushes to smooth out the green stuff on the neck socket so it looks more-or-less seemless, but that was a decent amount of work.

The area between the braces in this picture is basically just green stuff, and it entirely encircles the head.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Duct Tape posted:

Heads: https://www.shapeways.com/product/SYV65ZEAZ/martian-robot-castle-head-for-conversion?optionId=62730238
Pauldrons: https://www.shapeways.com/product/UJWQKXQAC/castle-type-pauldron-version-2-x4?optionId=63817532

They were a bit pricey, but I'd rather spend the extra $10 per model to build ones that I love, rather than fricken Baymax from Big Hero 6.

Warning though, the head is a couple millimeters narrower and shallower than the in-box one, meaning it just sort of floats around in the neck socket. I had to make a green stuff base inside the torso for the head to rest on. Once it was attached there, I then had to greenstuff the whole area where the head meets the neck to make them actually connect. I picked up a set of silicon clay brushes to smooth out the green stuff on the neck socket so it looks more-or-less seemless, but that was a decent amount of work.

The area between the braces in this picture is basically just green stuff, and it entirely encircles the head.


Thanks! I'll bookmark that guy, someone to look at once my budget finally goes through.

I'll be 100% honest though, I don't hate the original heads, as long as you do this with them?

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?

Schadenboner posted:

Thanks! I'll bookmark that guy, someone to look at once my budget finally goes through.

I'll be 100% honest though, I don't hate the original heads, as long as you do this with them?


I prefer the full weeb approach.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Duct Tape posted:

I prefer the full weeb approach.


It's... it's not like I punchy you or anything!

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Duct Tape posted:

I prefer the full weeb approach.


They look so happy. :3:

The Kastelan robots look cool and like they'd be easier to paint than a Titan Knight in some aspects. One paint scheme I saw for it that I really liked was this one, where they painted it with rust effects and sort-of retro '50s colors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasEpLchmCI&t=495s

Schadenboner posted:

You mentioned they were custom heads: where from? The only ones I know are Wargame Exclusive's (if you're able to set their :yikes: tiddy models aside they make really good vehicle parts) but those don't look like the ones you have.

I gave that site a look. Their minis seem like they're pretty good quality from the previews (though the prices seem pretty steepEDIT: I guess it's because it's resin, like ForgeWorld stuff), but I thought third-party sellers couldn't make stuff based on 40K property. I've read there are examples where some manufactures get around it by not actually saying that they're 40K or by not using the names. With the categories, though, it seems like it skirts dangerously close (Space Warriors and Necrocyborgs are kind of coy, but Chaos, Orks, and Greater Good seems like the veer into the field of something that could get you into legal trouble).

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Sep 17, 2018

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Max Wilco posted:

They look so happy. :3:

The Kastelan robots look cool and like they'd be easier to paint than a Titan Knight in some aspects. One paint scheme I saw for it that I really liked was this one, where they painted it with rust effects and sort-of retro '50s colors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasEpLchmCI&t=495s

I think these would look great in/alongside a 30k SA army, with the "50's SciFi" thing. I also think the teal (aqua?) and white would look good on Solars Aux (very little doesn't).

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


Is there a good reference out there for what paints work well as various skin colors? I'm specifically looking for Southeast Asian colors at the moment, but will need other colors in the future also.

edit: Found this in the OP and it does in fact tell you specific paints http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1310

a7m2 fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Sep 17, 2018

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Max Wilco posted:

They look so happy. :3:

The Kastelan robots look cool and like they'd be easier to paint than a Titan Knight in some aspects. One paint scheme I saw for it that I really liked was this one, where they painted it with rust effects and sort-of retro '50s colors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasEpLchmCI&t=495s


I gave that site a look. Their minis seem like they're pretty good quality from the previews (though the prices seem pretty steepEDIT: I guess it's because it's resin, like ForgeWorld stuff), but I thought third-party sellers couldn't make stuff based on 40K property. I've read there are examples where some manufactures get around it by not actually saying that they're 40K or by not using the names. With the categories, though, it seems like it skirts dangerously close (Space Warriors and Necrocyborgs are kind of coy, but Chaos, Orks, and Greater Good seems like the veer into the field of something that could get you into legal trouble).

It’s Russia: the land that IP law forgot.

Dunno where they’re based, but what’s an obvious wink-and-nod to a 40k player just looks like “Tiddy chick with big gun” to a jury, less cut and dried than it would intuitively seem.

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Sep 17, 2018

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
I think I found a partial answer to why I was having issue with the Tamiya cement: I just wasn't waiting long enough for it to dry. :hurr:

The Deathwing Terminators are about nearly 4/5ths of the way done. I messed up a bit on the sergeant, where I used the wrong arm with the sword. Luckily, I was still able to separate it, and re-glued it to a different arm. I think it was still the wrong arm, now the sword's tilted a bit, which looks neat.

What really annoys me is that there are some itty, bitty knives/short-swords that are supposed to attach to the torso, but I have no idea how you're supposed to attach them. They're too small to handle or position, and they don't seem to fit well against the torso.

Salynne
Oct 25, 2007

Max Wilco posted:


What really annoys me is that there are some itty, bitty knives/short-swords that are supposed to attach to the torso, but I have no idea how you're supposed to attach them. They're too small to handle or position, and they don't seem to fit well against the torso.

This is how knives are modelled in this game. Even Fulgrim, an insanely detailed forgeworld primarch model, has no clear way to attach his knives. You just...glue it on. Don't think about it too hard.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

General Olloth posted:

This is how knives are modelled in this game. Even Fulgrim, an insanely detailed forgeworld primarch model, has no clear way to attach his knives. You just...glue it on. Don't think about it too hard.

The issue is the actual act of gluing it on. I thought I could get away by just slapping down some glue and holding it on there, but it just didn't want to stick. I probably need a pair of those side-tweezers to do it, since I can't seem to do it by hand.

One thing that I've been thinking about while working on the Terminators is what to do with the extra parts. I got the Deathwing Command Squad box, so it comes with piece to do a Command Squad, Deathwing Knights, or just regular Terminators. I'm sort mixing it up in terms of what pieces I use, but for the most part, I didn't use a lot of the Deathwing Knight stuff. What do you usually do with the leftover pieces? At first I though you could just reintegrate if you bought another box, but you'd have the same issue at the end. The only thing I can think to do is either shop online to buy the other pieces from eBay or something to save some money, or kitbash them into something else.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Max Wilco posted:

The issue is the actual act of gluing it on. I thought I could get away by just slapping down some glue and holding it on there, but it just didn't want to stick. I probably need a pair of those side-tweezers to do it, since I can't seem to do it by hand.

One thing that I've been thinking about while working on the Terminators is what to do with the extra parts. I got the Deathwing Command Squad box, so it comes with piece to do a Command Squad, Deathwing Knights, or just regular Terminators. I'm sort mixing it up in terms of what pieces I use, but for the most part, I didn't use a lot of the Deathwing Knight stuff. What do you usually do with the leftover pieces? At first I though you could just reintegrate if you bought another box, but you'd have the same issue at the end. The only thing I can think to do is either shop online to buy the other pieces from eBay or something to save some money, or kitbash them into something else.

I have a large box full of spare parts. It's great to have for if you want to swap a weapon or make a character with some extra personality or whatever.

Salynne
Oct 25, 2007

Booley posted:

I have a large box full of spare parts. It's great to have for if you want to swap a weapon or make a character with some extra personality or whatever.

This and also adding, you can use them on basing and terrain as well. Only have heads, arms, torso fronts? I think you mean... Enemy corpses! Or..fallen comrades

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
Keep all the spare parts they're useful for lots of things, conversions, basing and objective markers.

The big dude I posted on the last page is an Ogryn with spare parts from at least three other kits.

- Saw arm from GSC Acolytes
- Piping from Melta gun
- More piping from Scions box
- =][= Logo from DW sprue.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

General Olloth posted:

This and also adding, you can use them on basing and terrain as well. Only have heads, arms, torso fronts? I think you mean... Enemy corpses! Or..fallen comrades

"Commander, I believe I have located the bodies of Captain Lithonius and the other three missing squad members"

"Describe their remains."

"It appears to be their heads, the front half of their torsos, and their severed arms. Bizarrely, their appear to be 11 arms, 7 of which are right arms."

"...What?"


Booley posted:

I have a large box full of spare parts. It's great to have for if you want to swap a weapon or make a character with some extra personality or whatever.

I haven't really thought about swapping pieces. That seems more like something you'd do if you were playing the tabletop game. I sort of did it today when trying to fix the sergeant's sword, but I think that was just luck with the glue still being pliable enough for me to yank it apart by hand. Clipping it apart seems like it'd go badly if the piece is really thick, but maybe a saw would work. I figured maybe I could put the heads on a stick and pair them with Orks or Chaos soldiers, or use the other parts as like some sort of armory decoration.

Failing all that, I could get one of those shipping container terrain pieces, stow all the gear and weapon pieces inside of it, and then paint the container with the Blood Ravens insignia.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
You're never gonna regret having an organized bitz box

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Schadenboner posted:

Thanks! I'll bookmark that guy, someone to look at once my budget finally goes through.

I'll be 100% honest though, I don't hate the original heads, as long as you do this with them?


long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

If I'm only airbrushing acrylics, is it still important to have an airbrush booth vent out a window? I don't really have access to one in my painting area, so right now I just go sit outside on the balcony and spray. I'd rather not have airbrushing time dictated by our lovely weather, but I'd pretty much have to rely on the filters to take care of the overspray and fumes.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Rock-em-Sock-em Robots reboot lookin' good!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

If I'm only airbrushing acrylics, is it still important to have an airbrush booth vent out a window? I don't really have access to one in my painting area, so right now I just go sit outside on the balcony and spray. I'd rather not have airbrushing time dictated by our lovely weather, but I'd pretty much have to rely on the filters to take care of the overspray and fumes.

As long as you don't breathe in the aerosolized paint or care about the fine paint dust that will eventually get on stuff in the room, no, you don't have to vent outside or filter (other than your own mask).

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Indolent Bastard posted:

As long as you don't breathe in the aerosolized paint or care about the fine paint dust that will eventually get on stuff in the room, no, you don't have to vent outside or filter (other than your own mask).

I definitely care about the paint dust, I was just wondering if the filters alone would be enough to take care of it. Sounds like they probably aren't.

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

I definitely care about the paint dust, I was just wondering if the filters alone would be enough to take care of it. Sounds like they probably aren't.
This is what I do. If you can, pump it out a window but not a huge deal if you have a booth with filters. Your staying at a pretty low pressure so it should suck everything up

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
I made a cardboard box spray booth with a USB case fan and a furnace filter. I still spray with a dust mask, but after a year and change of airbrushing I haven't noticed any paint buildup on my stuff.

Don't do this with lacquers or alcohols.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
So I'm on the cusp of creating an account on the Games Workshop site so I can wish-list sets to remember for later. However, before I do so, I wanted to ask what site people most recommend for ordering minis and materials. Someone mentioned Miniature Market, but I find their site a little hard to browse. It looks like you can get some GW stuff for about 15% off or so, but they've got a higher price point for free shipping ($99 for free shipping vs. Games Workshop's $65).

The other I found was TheWarStore, which I think is also listed in the OP. Their site seems a lot better organized, but I couldn't find any info on shipping deals. It doesn't seem like it's a lot for US shipping, though.

I also wanted to ask about some of the others I had come across. One was Warlord Games, the other was Magister Militum. Both seem to be based out of the UK. I found them while looking for more info on samurai minis.

Last one is Hoards O' Bits, which I think someone recommended to me as a place to buy individual mini pieces for cheap.

I just wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with any the sellers, or if there was one they preferred over the other.

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The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

I think GW enforces a 15% discount maximum for stores in the US so it would probably be hard to find one that gets under that. At least you don't have to call them or send them an xls anymore.

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