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Gloomy Rube posted:He also added graphics of literal real life gore into his gib graphics which rubbed a few people the wrong way, unsurprisingly. (I believe he did roll this one back after complaining that people were prudes or something, though) Wasn't the major one of these being a file name for a charred corpse texture? "Darker than a N-word"
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MariusLecter posted:Wasn't the major one of these being a file name for a charred corpse texture? "Darker than a N-word" Some annotation line in his code concerning some enemy burning from plasma shots that read something like "this turns a white dude into a n****r faster than rap". Also, 
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It was a code comment regarding the effects of the Plasma Rifle, IIRC. Really, Mark's alienated people in so many different ways that it's hard to keep track of them all and they tend to change and evolve with every retelling. Kind of like some old frontier fable passed down through oral tradition, except instead of the subject lassooing a tornado or whatever he pisses a bunch of people off.
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Painkiller (the creator of project brutality) is a much more chill dude then Sarge, generally speaking.
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Negrostrike posted:Also, Hahaha, I did not know about this. What a loving sack of poo poo.
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Mordja posted:It's basically BD++ with a ton of new weapons and enemies, and a pretty well-designed difficulty system which adds tougher monster variants as your own arsenal also expands. The newest version has been in the works for over a year now, and there's also an "official" campaign being worked on. If you want quad-miniguns and also an even bigger minigun that spitts out AP rounds then it might be the mod for you. Oh this sounds like what I might want for Hellground. So you get better capabilities and the monsters get crazier with you? That sounds great.
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Negrostrike posted:Yes, HDoom guy is ok. Competent pixel artist and not a racist rear end in a top hat. His non-porn (afaik) mod is looking promising. People bitch about HDoom because EEK SEX dumb morality. Guy watches RLM, so he can do no wrong.
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Arivia posted:Oh this sounds like what I might want for Hellground. So you get better capabilities and the monsters get crazier with you? That sounds great. Yeah, it's a randomizer mod with a "Dynamic Progression" system in place that keeps things more balanced than most such randomizer mods. Several guns even have upgrades you can find. E: No clue whether the test version or the last official release is better right now tho. Mordja fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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Mordja posted:Doom elitism isn't cool, hth.
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I got a little worried about Term when I looked at his video of playing the end of /pol/.wad and the youtube comments are a bunch of extremely awful people who are extremely pro /pol/ but then I remembered that it's youtube and everyone's awful on youtube. Term is too pure and good to be a CHUD.
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Glagha posted:I got a little worried about Term when I looked at his video of playing the end of /pol/.wad and the youtube comments are a bunch of extremely awful people who are extremely pro /pol/ but then I remembered that it's youtube and everyone's awful on youtube. Term is too pure and good to be a CHUD. Yeah, he's a good dude. He posts here too, of course. 
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On the offchance you don't already own it, Fanatical (ex Bundlestars) has a good price on FEAR 1/2/3 at the moment: https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/fear-bundle I don't think I ever got around to 3, does it hold up to the first two?
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3's... okay? It's not terrible or anything, but it doesn't really hold up, plus there's the whole thing with (co-op spoilers) Your friend doing too well in the game gets you a bad ending which feels really extremely dumb
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Babylon Astronaut posted:If not wanting to play the game with the "instant friend of the family" gun is elitist, so be it. I don't believe he was remarking on that specifically. Just the different ways people try to preach the "one true way" to play Doom.
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Arivia posted:Oh this sounds like what I might want for Hellground. So you get better capabilities and the monsters get crazier with you? That sounds great. it more or less ramps up the difficulty based on how many maps the level pack you're using has, so if it's a short 8 maps or something things will crank up quickly while a 32 map megawad or whatever might have a couple levels at the beginning where nothing all that different goes on eventually you'll be hitting the point where there's stuff like the cyborg and ifrit hell baron variants and multiple flavors of mancubus trundling into view regularly. or the weird ice-themed archviles. or the super lategame cacodemon/pain elemental replacement that pretty much spews out a bullet hell spray of energy. you kind of need the weapons and their upgrades
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Johnny Joestar posted:it more or less ramps up the difficulty based on how many maps the level pack you're using has, so if it's a short 8 maps or something things will crank up quickly while a 32 map megawad or whatever might have a couple levels at the beginning where nothing all that different goes on
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Arivia posted:No that sounds perfect. Hellground or whatever it is 32 levels that are really pretty with atrociously boring difficulty so it’s good to play with a gameplay mod to cut down on the monotony. Hellbound is amazing in its ability to reduce even the most ridiculous gameplay mods to tedium for me. My last attempt was with guncaster. There will probably not be another. It's a shame, the maps really are fantastic to look at.
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chaosapiant posted:I don't believe he was remarking on that specifically. Just the different ways people try to preach the "one true way" to play Doom. Right, but I agree with Babylon that the point should be made that there are legit exceptions to that. "brutal doom is/isn't doomier than doom" <- pointless "brutal doom is bad because sgt mark is racist" <- valid
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Zaphod42 posted:Right, but I agree with Babylon that the point should be made that there are legit exceptions to that. Also disagree. I’m not gonna suddenly stop playing BD because I didn’t do enough research into what an rear end in a top hat the creator is. I support everyone’s right to choose and think there is no best version of doom and there’s no reason to mod shame folks. I don’t have to like Sgt Mk or whatever his name is to enjoy shooing bloody demons. If his weird racist poo poo made it into the content of his mods I’d feel differently.
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chaosapiant posted:Also disagree. I’m not gonna suddenly stop playing BD because I didn’t do enough research into what an rear end in a top hat the creator is. I support everyone’s right to choose and think there is no best version of doom and there’s no reason to mod shame folks. I don’t have to like Sgt Mk or whatever his name is to enjoy shooing bloody demons. If his weird racist poo poo made it into the content of his mods I’d feel differently. Okay but the point we were talking about, the context of this conversation, is this Babylon Astronaut posted:If not wanting to play the game with the "instant friend of the family" gun is elitist, so be it. He's not saying "if hating on people for playing the n-word game is elitist, so be it" he's saying "if not wanting to play it for that reason" Also more context Glagha posted:Then again I'm biased because gently caress brutal doom. Power Walrus posted:Why is Brutal Doom so controversial? nobody's saying we're going to come to your house with the doom police and see which wads you have. We're just saying "I think personally gently caress brutal doom because this" and that's fair, right? Gotta quote all this stuff in one post or you'll just take the last thing said out of context it seems.
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Zaphod42 posted:Okay but the point we were talking about, the context of this conversation, is this Yep, I agree with that. We’re all bros here. That said, it is lovely that a lot of great modders are lovely divisive people.
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Zaphod42 posted:Gotta quote all this stuff in one post or you'll just take the last thing said out of context it seems. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Yea, my bad. I was asking from the perspective of "Idiots modders who hates other modders" perspective, maybe with someone being a prude because I remember the HDoom guy isn't all that bad from what I remembered. But I totally forgot how racist Sgt Mark was.
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Zaphod42 posted:Gotta quote all this stuff in one post or you'll just take the last thing said out of context it seems. I appreciate all the clarification provided over the last page. I honestly don’t know anything about the culture of popular Doom mod devs, and it’s nice to have to some context on how the bigger dogs affect the culture. Honestly, even though I like BD, I’d be happier supporting someone who isn’t an outright shithead, and if people vouch for Brutality’s dev, that’s good enough for me to switch over. After all, it’s just about shooting pixel demons. There’s no reason to be a petty, racist vindictive piece of poo poo over this stuff.
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Oh hey, we brought again the same argument about Brutal Doom. Just play it if you want or don't, at this point and year, who cares?
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Just play Project Brutality instead should be the default answer to "should I play Brutal Doom".
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The downside for PB is it hasn't been updated in ages apart from some 2/3 finished test builds.
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ETPC posted:didn't hdoom guy support gamergate what's wrong with Ophthalmopone berthoudi?
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Carecat posted:The downside for PB is it hasn't been updated in ages apart from some 2/3 finished test builds. a web search for project brutality took me to brutal doom
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doctorfrog posted:a web search for project brutality took me to brutal doom it's the first google result https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/project-brutality
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The Kins posted:It was a code comment regarding the effects of the Plasma Rifle, IIRC. I wish he would be more cooperative, but he just keeps pushing people away, so honestly, I personally would rather see these two projects go their own seperate ways for the better. If PB can make its guns more oomphy, it'll be a pretty good improvement to the point of overtaking BD in terms of quality and fun. THE BAR posted:Guy watches RLM, so he can do no wrong. If you can catch us during late night streaming sessions on cytube, we watch a lot of RLM and Hell Kitchen.
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To those goons who get into the politics of mod makers, do you research that first when looking at what mods you might want to play, and weed out poo poo based on incompatible beliefs, or do you play the stuff and then find out later that these weirdo creators want to bring back slavery and ban woman voting or wtf they're doing. Also I have no idea still what gamergate is. I've spent the last several years avoiding words like SJW, chud, gamergate. anykind of gate, and probably a few. Hate politics. Btw, the above question is not meant to provoke; I'm not looking for a "right" answer. I'm just curious.
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chaosapiant posted:To those goons who get into the politics of mod makers, do you research that first when looking at what mods you might want to play, and weed out poo poo based on incompatible beliefs, or do you play the stuff and then find out later that these weirdo creators want to bring back slavery and ban woman voting or wtf they're doing. You find out later most of the time, assuming the mod maker's blog/zdoom thread/readme isn't filled with dodgy poo poo that sets off alarm bells, because people tend to be less openly bigoted in places where there is a risk of repercussion (which is why it's important not to just brush all of this under the carpet). No one's going to judge you for playing Brutal Doom if you don't know the stuff people in the community know about its author, but if you do know and play it anyway, that's on you to assume.  chaosapiant posted:Also I have no idea still what gamergate is. Something you should look up on Wikipedia because discussing it here is against the rules. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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chaosapiant posted:To those goons who get into the politics of mod makers, do you research that first when looking at what mods you might want to play, and weed out poo poo based on incompatible beliefs, or do you play the stuff and then find out later that these weirdo creators want to bring back slavery and ban woman voting or wtf they're doing. Also I have no idea still what gamergate is. I've spent the last several years avoiding words like SJW, chud, gamergate. anykind of gate, and probably a few. Hate politics. it's insanely cool that you have the luxury to be such a dumbass
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Lemon-Lime posted:Something you should look up on Wikipedia because discussing it here is against the rules. Thankfully, Wikipedia can help: quote:A gamergate (/ˈɡæmərˌɡeɪt/) is a mated worker ant that is able to reproduce sexually, i.e. lay fertilized eggs that will develop as females. Gamergates are restricted to taxa where the workers have a functional sperm reservoir ('spermatheca'). In various species, gamergates reproduce in addition to winged queens (usually upon the death of the original foundress), while in other species the queen caste has been completely replaced by gamergates. In gamergate species, all workers in a colony have similar reproductive potentials, but as a result of physical interactions, a dominance hierarchy is formed and only one or a few top-ranking workers can mate (usually with foreign males) and produce eggs. Subsequently however, aggression is no longer needed as gamergates secrete chemical signals that inform the other workers of their reproductive status in the colony. So basically, incels are outraged at the idea that females can increase their social ranking by banging foreign males. Makes sense to me.
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TerminusEst13 posted:I called Kinsie a nerd once. Well this is clearly wrong. He's king nerd.
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