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Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
Love it when there are highly defensive little corners like that. This is why the hyperlane change was good and cool.

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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Oh for... see that little dead-end star north-east of Bolthar? Early space age Sol, sandwiched between me and a bunch of fanauth militarists. I snagged the only access to Sol to better deliver democracy to them.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


You should murder them and take their poo poo before they develop FTL, it's much safer that way.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
What's the point in being The Best Birds if there's no one to be bester than? If we bring them up to (nearly) our level then we can all feel good about how much closer they are to, but still very far from, best.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
I found another Gaia world and blitzed halfway across the galaxy to claim it. It's directly adjacent to another empire and covered in hallucinogens and robots. I'm sure it will be fine.

everydayfalls
Aug 23, 2016

Splicer posted:

Then they went and dumped two wormholes on the only exit points.

Who built this?

The wormholes probably go to each other.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

everydayfalls posted:

The wormholes probably go to each other.

The Benny Hill Nebula

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
My last game I found two wormholes 1 or 2 jumps apart, they led to two systems on the other side of the galaxy about 4 or 5 jumps apart.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

everydayfalls posted:

The wormholes probably go to each other.

I don't think it's possible for the distance between linked wormholes to be that small.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




There is at least one special event that a worm hole goes to a single system reachable only with a wormhole.

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

BrandorKP posted:

There is at least one special event that a worm hole goes to a single system reachable only with a wormhole.

i think 'distance' here means 'number of hyperlanes' and in that case the distance is infinite, so it doesn't really apply even tho they're right next to each other

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

BrandorKP posted:

There is at least one special event that a worm hole goes to a single system reachable only with a wormhole.

I love that event a lot.

RedSnapper
Nov 22, 2016

Splicer posted:

Then they went and dumped two wormholes on the only exit points.

Who built this?

Cozy.
My most memorable nebula start was FPs with Awakened Precursor civic (Guili's mod) - the nebula was called Grave of The Forsaken, there were way more space monsters than I usually seem to get and all other nebulae had names like Endless Scream and such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILlRxeuLxQM

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Splicer posted:

Oh for... see that little dead-end star north-east of Bolthar? Early space age Sol, sandwiched between me and a bunch of fanauth militarists. I snagged the only access to Sol to better deliver democracy to them.

When I started my latest Fanatic Purifier run, United Nations Sol was four jumps away in a dead-end on the very edge of the galaxy. I honestly felt a little bad, like worse than I normally do on a Purifier run.

It's weird, Purifiers, Assimilators, and Exterminators, I feel bad playing. Devouring Swarms? THIS GALAXY IS A PIZZA AND I MUST EAT IT.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you think about it, really, devouring swarms aren't genocidal, they're just redistributing your organic compounds to maximize the amount of life they can sustain.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Dareon posted:

When I started my latest Fanatic Purifier run, United Nations Sol was four jumps away in a dead-end on the very edge of the galaxy. I honestly felt a little bad, like worse than I normally do on a Purifier run.

It's weird, Purifiers, Assimilators, and Exterminators, I feel bad playing. Devouring Swarms? THIS GALAXY IS A PIZZA AND I MUST EAT IT.
Well with Purifiers and Exterminators you're doing it because you (in game) are an rear end in a top hat. You (in game) have /chosen/ to wipe everyone out, and just not being an rear end in a top hat is an option. It's just pointless slaughter. Devouring Swarms are at least murdering for food rather than ideology. That or it's the other direction, in that murdering entire civilisations for food is so cartoonishly evil that you just can't take it seriously.

Assimilators aren't murdering anyone what's your problem :colbert:

Also check out the Species Imperative trilogy, you might like it.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC
Swarms aren't evil, they're just hungry.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

I remember years ago stumbling on an imgur archive of short stories with the over-arching theme being ‘humanity, gently caress yeah’ which is basically a collection of stories about humans being bad rear end and every other species thinking we’re loving insane. Turns out if you assume Earth isn’t an average planet but instead a hellish death world where everything is out to kill you then humans come out pretty scary to imaginary aliens. They were pretty fun reads.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


I once read a book with that concept. Mediocre as hell writing, but the part where the evil psychic space alien tried to read some dudes mind and suffered massive aneurysms because of how hateful he was was dope

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Demiurge4 posted:

I remember years ago stumbling on an imgur archive of short stories with the over-arching theme being ‘humanity, gently caress yeah’ which is basically a collection of stories about humans being bad rear end and every other species thinking we’re loving insane. Turns out if you assume Earth isn’t an average planet but instead a hellish death world where everything is out to kill you then humans come out pretty scary to imaginary aliens. They were pretty fun reads.

Here y'go

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

I think my favourite was one about humans fighting a horrible war with space Sparta, but told from the perspective of an alien species who uplifted us and thought of humans as nothing more than slightly intelligent apes. Humans lose entire planets, millions of soldiers and every space engagement until at last space Sparta just surrenders. The alien narrator is perplexed until the human ambassador explains the concept of a Pyrrhic victory, then he’s just horrified that they ever taught us space travel.

Jefepato
Mar 11, 2009

This?! This is a glorious dance! That has been passed down! In my family for generations!
So, I started my first* game of Stellaris recently. Things were going okay -- or at least, I've learned from my mistakes -- and then the Great Khan arose.

The Khan started doing a lot of damage to the galaxy; I think I must have gained refugees from half a dozen species thanks to his rampage, which was fun. When his fleets appeared at my border, I realized I didn't have any chance to fight him and just surrendered.

But then he died. (I'm aware that he has to be defeated twice to die -- he is indeed dead.) I was under the impression (from the wiki) that his hordes are supposed to fracture within a year after his death, but it's been a hell of a lot longer than that. Communicating with his horde still just gets me the "no one is answering your communication" response.

The only change I've noticed at all (after years and years in-game) is that most of the fleet hanging around my homeworld's garrison flew away just a few minutes ago (in IRL time). Is that a good sign? Should I just wait? Is there anything else I can do?

*technically second, but the actual first attempt was a long time and many versions ago, only lasted an hour or two, and I don't remember what I was doing at all

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
It's a bug, I've gotten it before and reloaded to before he died. The event fired correctly that time. You could also lookup the fracturing event id and trigger it manually.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Demiurge4 posted:

I think my favourite was one about humans fighting a horrible war with space Sparta, but told from the perspective of an alien species who uplifted us and thought of humans as nothing more than slightly intelligent apes. Humans lose entire planets, millions of soldiers and every space engagement until at last space Sparta just surrenders. The alien narrator is perplexed until the human ambassador explains the concept of a Pyrrhic victory, then he’s just horrified that they ever taught us space travel.

And the whole reason the Humans ever started to fight in the first place was because the narrator's race was having their territory stolen, and Humanity was like "gently caress those guys, want us to kick their asses?"

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Demiurge4 posted:

I remember years ago stumbling on an imgur archive of short stories with the over-arching theme being ‘humanity, gently caress yeah’ which is basically a collection of stories about humans being bad rear end and every other species thinking we’re loving insane. Turns out if you assume Earth isn’t an average planet but instead a hellish death world where everything is out to kill you then humans come out pretty scary to imaginary aliens. They were pretty fun reads.

humans are the real krogans think about it

even compared to other earth animals humans have:
abnormal healing & scar response
can eat basically anything except like wood and rocks
survive serious damage that would be fatal to a similar sized animal
can run all day no problem
willing to take potentially fatal risks for fun

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





I just read that one!

Humans Being Space Bros is a really amusing concept.

Jefepato
Mar 11, 2009

This?! This is a glorious dance! That has been passed down! In my family for generations!

Nevets posted:

It's a bug, I've gotten it before and reloaded to before he died. The event fired correctly that time. You could also lookup the fracturing event id and trigger it manually.

It's been long enough in-game (in terms of progress I've made) that I really don't want to reload, but I guess I'll see if I can figure out the console.

It looks like marauder.600 is the right one? Here's hoping.

Thanks!

linall
Feb 1, 2007
I just booted up my first game of Stellaris in a long time ( like since just after Leviathans or whatever the DLC is actually called ) and it's pretty exciting to see all the changes that have gone through. Claiming territory via outposts feels so right it's crazy to think it ever worked any other way. That said, the War in Heaven triggered a few dozen years ago ( which has gone great for me, the Radch has easily doubled in size territory-wise since the start ) but each of the awakened empire's fleets seem to continually "get stuck" around one or two garbage planets. I've been moving a small transport fleet around capping planets for my side ( it's only like two assault armies, but the defenders are always obliterated pretty much instantly by orbital bombardment ) but they continue to get stuck pretty much ad nauseam.

I remember this was an issue back when the War in Heaven was first introduced but I was hoping it had been resolved by now. Is this still typical? Or am I special? I am playing on the normal difficulty as I wanted to familiarize myself with all the new mechanics, is the answer to just up the difficulty?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Some of the changes with the war system have introduced very quirky situations (my most recent game had 2 Wars in Heaven running simultaneously) but the fleets getting stuck in orbit and refusing to invade has been around for a long time now and I don't know of anyway to give the AI a shove - short of invading the planet yourself or using the console to switch players and issuing the order for them you just have to wait and hope they come to their senses.

It's not limited to fallen empires, either. Regular empires and even a crisis will run I to the same glitches.

It seems to get worse as the game goes on but I don't know why. Maybe because it can't calculate safe route for transport to follow?

In fact, the crisis fleets seem even more prone to this. Recently had the Preythoryn show up and because they were buffed to 3x they had so many fleets they all jammed up around 1 or two planets and didn't leave room for the fleets escorting their transport to enter orbit, forever blocking them from moving on or invading. Had to delete several fleets just to make room so we could get the genociding under way. Shook my head in disbelief at that one.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/1042079867230187520

Cool and good.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Is the art for the ringworld new? I don't recall the current art having the arch of the ring world in the background. Either way it looks great.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

canepazzo posted:

Cool and good.

"hmm size 50 seems less than current size 100"

"wait poo poo, that's just section C :kingsley:"

On one hand I'm glad I can still have 4 sections so I can specialise easily, OTOH it'd be fun to see a 200 size planet :v:

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
No, it's been around for some time now. Don't recall of hand when it was introduced but it's probably been over a year now.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

There was a cool Peter Watts story about a ship (on a billion year mission to build wormholes) encounters what's essentially a star sized brain and realize that not only is to unfathomably intelligent it also evolved in a situation where it had all the resources it needs so it doesn't have the impulse to violence and competiton we do.

lol its peter watts its malevolent after all and manipulates them into killing a rival intelligence

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Also, it looks like they're going with ringworlds being 4 sections (since we're looking at Habitable Section C) instead of making them one giant world.

Why you would put farms on a ring world is beyond me though. Such a waste.

Doesn't look like you can put industrial districts on it though. That type is missing from the summary list. Only urban, farming and generator districts are available.

Aethernet
Jan 28, 2009

This is the Captain...

Our glorious political masters have, in their wisdom, decided to form an alliance with a rag-tag bunch of freedom fighters right when the Federation has us at a tactical disadvantage. Unsurprisingly, this has resulted in the Feds firing on our vessels...

Damn you Huxley!

Grimey Drawer

Psychotic Weasel posted:

Also, it looks like they're going with ringworlds being 4 sections (since we're looking at Habitable Section C) instead of making them one giant world.

Why you would put farms on a ring world is beyond me though. Such a waste.

Doesn't look like you can put industrial districts on it though. That type is missing from the summary list. Only urban, farming and generator districts are available.

They may've finally decided mining a Ring World is slightly silly. You'll still be able to refine on them, and I would imagine they'll be excellent at hyper-specialised roles.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
I hope there's a Ringworld out there that's inhabited by one, or perhaps several pre-spaceflight civilizations -- the remnants of the former creators of the Ringworld, now fallen into primitivism, or possibly species that were "gathered" by the creators to satisfy some kind of xeno-zoo mentality.

EDIT: It'd be cool if there was like an event chain where you could make contact with them, and find that they're involved in wars with inhabitants of the other ring sections, and you could step in to favor one side or another. Real Star Trek Prime Directive sort of stuff!!

Serf
May 5, 2011


i figured mining on a ringworld just represented digging up/processing the ore left over from the planets you deconstructed while building it

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

DrSunshine posted:

satisfy some kind of xeno-zoo mentality.
Wiz! How can I roleplay this as a non-rogue servitor? :v:

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DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Quark, "The Siege of AR-558" posted:

QUARK: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

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