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I can tell you that Doomstadt has at least two churches... the Church of St. Peter and the Church of St. Blaise.
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Did one of you mention Transhumanism a couple pages ago? I spoke to someone on their way to a “True Legends” conference. I asked a little bit about it and they were pretty guarded. I got them to open up a bit, but mostly they just said “look it up.” Just now looked it up.  Who are these people?
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Sep 18, 2018 16:59
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It shows up now and again in this thread, and, very often, in others on SA. Essentially, transhumanists aim to change humanity into something better by transcending the limits of it. The tools are drug/physiological science, the melding of minds with computers and esoteric disciplines - ironically to some of us, many transhumanists are big time into meditation and prayer as a way to "hack" the human condition into performing better, without adressing what that condition is about. Try this on for size: https://whatistranshumanism.org/
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Sep 18, 2018 17:05
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Also some of them have basically accidentally recreated a faith-based eschaton without (probably) meaning to, complete with the resurrection of the dead (in the form of belief in Cryonics) and a grand judgment by the new computer god.
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Sep 18, 2018 17:21
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also half of them are super racist and believe racism and authoritarianism are "traditional," pre-Enlightenment ways of life it's actually the opposite edit: like, get a load of this guy, he wants 80% of humanity to live in a medieval like world and the remaining 20% who have "certain roles in society" to live in futuristic cities. who are these elite few? who has these roles? he does, of course https://www.traditionalright.com/retroculture/ HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 17:27
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Night10194 posted:Also some of them have basically accidentally recreated a faith-based eschaton without (probably) meaning to, complete with the resurrection of the dead (in the form of belief in Cryonics) and a grand judgment by the new computer god. well if it's people from Jewish or Christian backgrounds who are getting incredibly emotionally heated up and inventing these things, what they invent is likely to have a Jewish or Christian form, if not content.
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Sep 18, 2018 17:31
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HEY GUNS posted:also half of them are super racist and believe racism and authoritarianism are "traditional," pre-Enlightenment ways of life it's actually the opposite Oh this is the guy who wrote the incredibly bad racist patriot fiction that was linked in the milhist thread a little bit back. (Seriously, it is incredibly bad even by the standards of racist patriot fiction.)
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Sep 18, 2018 17:36
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HEY GUNS posted:if you like the modern ancient-faith-radio style stuff, these people are on reddit: Thanks for the recommendation, I haven't gotten the chance to listen to the PatristicsProject stuff yet, but it looks like what I'm wanting (more of a discussion about things instead of a reading of the fathers)
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Sep 18, 2018 17:39
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P-Mack posted:Oh this is the guy who wrote the incredibly bad racist patriot fiction that was linked in the milhist thread a little bit back. (Seriously, it is incredibly bad even by the standards of racist patriot fiction.)
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Sep 18, 2018 17:49
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HEY GUNS posted:well if it's people from Jewish or Christian backgrounds who are getting incredibly emotionally heated up and inventing these things, what they invent is likely to have a Jewish or Christian form, if not content. Yes, but it's still fascinating. A religious yearning in someone who associates religion with stupidity and thinks they're too smart to be religious.
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Sep 18, 2018 17:54
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Night10194 posted:Yes, but it's still fascinating. A religious yearning in someone who associates religion with stupidity and thinks they're too smart to be religious. 'The Singularity' has been called The Rapture of the Nerds for a long time.
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Sep 18, 2018 17:56
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HEY GUNS posted:no this is a nazi criticizing that dude for not putting 80% of everyone in medieval villages Ahhh, it's like watching Maoist third worldists debate each other but worse.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:01
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I think at this point I'd like a medieval village life. Means I'd die quicker too probably!
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Sep 18, 2018 18:09
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HEY GUNS posted:well if it's people from Jewish or Christian backgrounds who are getting incredibly emotionally heated up and inventing these things, what they invent is likely to have a Jewish or Christian form, if not content. or if it's someone who grew up reading bad science fiction and horror books, they invent stuff like Roko's Basilisk
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Sep 18, 2018 18:19
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Can't wait for the glorious transhuman futuelre predicted by Blindsight
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Sep 18, 2018 18:22
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im waiting for the cosmology of people who grew up on harry potter and angry birds
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Sep 18, 2018 18:26
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 So I guess this conference was a Christian Fundamentalist gathering against transhumanism. Topics included the holocaust of giants and how targeted ads can predict your desires, maybe even plant them (feelin’ gay?). The US is bonkers. Edit: https://gensix.com
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Sep 18, 2018 18:30
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like i say every time this comes up, if you don't long for the resurrection and the moral perfection of the world, regardless of your framework, then what are you even doing i don't believe in the transhumanist version any more than i do the Christian version but i do appreciate the vision of building it with our own hands
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Sep 18, 2018 18:32
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:like i say every time this comes up, if you don't long for the resurrection and the moral perfection of the world, regardless of your framework, then what are you even doing Along those lines I find the Freezone people who practice the Scientology faith outside of the Scientology organization to be one of the most fascinating things in the world. I think it's gonna have staying power.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:40
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Josef bugman posted:I think at this point I'd like a medieval village life. ThePopeOfFun posted:(feelin’ gay?)
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Sep 18, 2018 18:40
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it's like DDees and Da Share Zone had a baby
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Sep 18, 2018 18:44
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tag urself im the vaccinations and the fallen angel dna in our genome
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Sep 18, 2018 20:52
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True legends is what a group of drunk Australians is called.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:00
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Starting my early christianity course today, we've already talked about Desert Fathers and the Syrian church  shame on an IGA posted:Along those lines I find the Freezone people who practice the Scientology faith outside of the Scientology organization to be one of the most fascinating things in the world. I think it's gonna have staying power. Homie of mine had a scientology member as a tutor, and credits his techniques with teaching him language and math, though he thinks the religion is super terrible. E: Just saw this: Lutha Mahtin posted:lookalike mushrooms honestly scare me Maria Sabina is the Mexican CC saint (though I don't know if she's officially recognized or a folk saint) of psilocybin mushrooms and associated augury and healing. Tias fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Sep 19, 2018 08:42
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i didn't know there were folk saints of SMOKE WEED but i guess it makes sense saint george appears to be patron of farmers, agricultural workers, and scouting (like boy/girl scouts), so that's pretty close
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Sep 19, 2018 14:58
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Tias posted:Starting my early christianity course today, we've already talked about Desert Fathers and the Syrian church Early Christianity (and 2nd Temple Judaism) both totally rule to study. The early church is fascinating because the traditions aren't set yet and no-one around them has any idea how to react to them. Like the Letter of Trajan to Pliny where they're like 'The hell are these guys, what do we do with them.'
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Sep 19, 2018 15:03
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i didn't know there were folk saints of SMOKE WEED but i guess it makes sense With shamans being the primary medium of medical care for more or less any kind of disease or injury you can think of in South America up until recent times, of course the greatest curers become saints in a syncretic movement. The mushrooms are just a tool in that respect. Night10194 posted:Early Christianity (and 2nd Temple Judaism) both totally rule to study. The early church is fascinating because the traditions aren't set yet and no-one around them has any idea how to react to them. Like the Letter of Trajan to Pliny where they're like 'The hell are these guys, what do we do with them.' This sounds interesting, can you link me?
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Sep 19, 2018 15:28
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i found a paper i wrote that paul knitter thought was "sub undergraduate level writing," anyone wanna take a look?
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Sep 19, 2018 15:43
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Tias posted:This sounds interesting, can you link me? http://faculty.georgetown.edu/jod/texts/pliny.html
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Sep 19, 2018 15:47
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let everything that has breath praise the lord (The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God...the earth is filled with Thy creatures, so is this great and spacious sea, therein are things creeping innumerable, small living creatures with the great. There go the ships; there this dragon, whom Thou hast made to play therein...)
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Sep 19, 2018 15:48
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due to lack of interest here's the paper that paul knitter hated so much it killed my academic career; https://pastebin.com/LPtKFQMU
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Sep 19, 2018 17:03
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My aunt’s husband died unexpectedly this afternoon. Please keep him (B.) my aunt (S.) and their 14 year old son (A.) in your prayers. Especially A., he has autism and has a very hard time expressing and processing emotion.
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Sep 20, 2018 02:23
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Thirteen Orphans posted:My aunt’s husband died unexpectedly this afternoon. Please keep him (B.) my aunt (S.) and their 14 year old son (A.) in your prayers. Especially A., he has autism and has a very hard time expressing and processing emotion. May he be free to feel what he feels, and in a way that's ultimately good and kind to him. Senju Kannon posted:due to lack of interest here's the paper that paul knitter hated so much it killed my academic career; https://pastebin.com/LPtKFQMU Yikes. Why do you think he hated it?
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Sep 20, 2018 03:23
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Caufman posted:Yikes. Why do you think he hated it? There is a lot more personal experience discussion than you normally see in an academic paper, from my experience of academic papers, at least.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:03
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Epicurius posted:There is a lot more personal experience discussion than you normally see in an academic paper, from my experience of academic papers, at least. You see that a lot in more modern theological writings, Knitter himself writes in that style.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:05
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Thirteen Orphans posted:You see that a lot in more modern theological writings, Knitter himself writes in that style. Fair enough. I'm 20 years out of anything approaching academia, and most of the papers I tended to read and write dealt with the formation of national identity in the 19th/20th century, It doesn't lend itself to that kind of writing.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:10
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I never read specifically theological writing but yeah the voice seemed way off for academic writing. The fact that your writing about the subject inherently shows interest. I'd say you need to do a better job divoricing yourself from the subject in the actual paper. I only read the first few paragraphs though.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:11
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Epicurius posted:Fair enough. I'm 20 years out of anything approaching academia, and most of the papers I tended to read and write dealt with the formation of national identity in the 19th/20th century, It doesn't lend itself to that kind of writing. A good friend of mine (History and Politics double major) was asked by my then girlfriend to give her paper a quick read through for clarity and punctuation. He came to he first instance of the word “I,” lost his mind, and I had to explain that in modern theological discourse, that’s status quo.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:13
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Thirteen Orphans posted:A good friend of mine (History and Politics double major) was asked by my then girlfriend to give her paper a quick read through for clarity and punctuation. He came to he first instance of the word “I,” lost his mind, and I had to explain that in modern theological discourse, that’s status quo. I would lose my mind at that too, and I wasn't even a good college student. Theology used to be fairly scientific, or at least adopt some of the outer forms like "never use the first person". Seriously, when did that change?
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My masters in Religious Studies was 5 years ago and I try to avoid ever using I in academic writing.
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