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Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Ardent Communist posted:

Alright, it's apparent that few people want to argue on good faith,

take off the ushanka, we can tell it's you, lil Ben

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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

slippery doc posted:

meanwhile seattle takes a hard look at the homelessness crisis

https://twitter.com/leddder/status/1041859501404508160

but how are you gonna pay for it?!??!

Mushika
Dec 22, 2010

Here's some capitalism for ya.

https://www.boredpanda.com/national-child-labor-committee-collection-lewis-hine-usa/

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Stain is bad and there are much better examples of Actual Communism (before they got coup'd) like Cuba, Rojava, and Burkina Faso

Miftan has issued a correction as of 20:40 on Sep 18, 2018

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Although Stalin himself died millions of times in the war against the Nazis, he also threw concentration camp survivors in gulags for being potential spies.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
The Bolsheviks were all garbage. Lenin, garbage, Trotsky, garbage. Stalin, ubergarbage. They stole power in a shiny new workers democracy and turned it into a gigantic nightmare machine.

But they had red flags and talked louder than everyone else so I guess they get to be the default communism

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

The Bolsheviks were all garbage. Lenin, garbage, Trotsky, garbage. Stalin, ubergarbage. They stole power in a shiny new workers democracy and turned it into a gigantic nightmare machine.

But they had red flags and talked louder than everyone else so I guess they get to be the default communism

Alright man, what would you have done differently? Say you, instead of the Bolsheviks, are in control of a shiny new workers democracy in 1917 russia? I'm interested to know how you'd survive foreign invasion, civil war, mass starvation. I mean, you seem to prefer that sort of government, and it would have the same problems emerging today, so how do you solve them differently?

I'm not shitposting, I genuinely want to know.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
I probably wouldn't have crushed the Soviets and persecuted the politically active workers after the civil war had ended.

The Bolsheviks were putting people in camps in 1921 who they relied on to break the provisional government in 1917. The Bolsheviks were counter-revolutionaries who crushed the Russian workers revolution.

ContinuityNewTimes has issued a correction as of 20:53 on Sep 18, 2018

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Um guys the thread is capitalism.png not capitalism.txt

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Paladinus posted:

How about starving to death because your country is considered too ideologically unstable to trust it with grain? Or being shot by NKVD because your neighbour wanted to have your cupboard shelf in the communal kitchen?

It's cool to laugh at capitalism and want more socialist policies enacted, or hell, even desire complete overthrow of capitalism. What is extremely uncool, however, is to be dumb enough to think that Stalinist USSR or Maoist China were some beacons of socialist ideals where things were significantly better than in capitalist states of the time. They weren't.

Pretty much sounds like the US if your poor, which I am

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Um guys the thread is capitalism.png not capitalism.txt


Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Larry Parrish posted:

Pretty much sounds like the US if your poor, which I am

My life is pretty much comparable to the Auschwitz, typed a well adjusted poster.

What you are doing right now is the direct equivalent of a foreign poster trying to contribute to a debate among US goons by suggesting that slavery wasn't bad because actually most slave owners treated their slaves well.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 21:38 on Sep 18, 2018

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

steinrokkan posted:

My life is pretty much comparable to the Auschwitz, typed a well adjusted poster.

Maybe the Kanada section? :shrug:

Edit: Everybody should watch The Death of Stalin, btw. Basically a documentary.

Bodyholes
Jun 30, 2005

qkkl posted:

The purpose of allowing companies to make a profit would be to give an incentive for future companies to develop new drugs. Even if the R&D is funded by the government it would still be good to give those researchers who receive the government funds an incentive to work hard. A researcher would work harder on developing the cure for cancer if they knew that they would be a billionaire if they succeeded, as opposed to just receiving their government funded salary.

Really, every research technician at a pharma company becomes a billionaire if a cure for a big disease is found? You sure about that buddy? Sure it isn't just the CEO and a handful of upper execs? Because that would be news to me. This whole time I've been in genetics I've worked out of pure fear of dying in the streets if I couldn't pay rent, like most Americans under 40.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

This reminds me of how my bank (US Bank) won a "most ethical company" award. I feel like if banks are winning that then the award is completely meaningless

bag em and tag em
Nov 4, 2008

Raldikuk posted:

This reminds me of how my bank (US Bank) won a "most ethical company" award. I feel like if banks are winning that then the award is completely meaningless

It's on a sliding scale

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s like how Sarah Palin “won” the debate against Biden.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



the nordic welfare model is great and universally applicable as long as you're happy with enslaving the entire third world, so in many ways it is peak liberalism

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Bodyholes posted:

Really, every research technician at a pharma company becomes a billionaire if a cure for a big disease is found? You sure about that buddy? Sure it isn't just the CEO and a handful of upper execs? Because that would be news to me. This whole time I've been in genetics I've worked out of pure fear of dying in the streets if I couldn't pay rent, like most Americans under 40.

For some people not dying in the streets is enough incentive, but other people might need a billion dollars or more to be incentivized.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


qkkl posted:

For some people not dying in the streets is enough incentive, but other people might need a billion dollars or more to be incentivized.

I don’t know what this post is trying to say but I work in research and thinking that the lowly technician gets rich from being essential to the development of some drug or whatever is extremely funny, to me

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
lol at the idea that people go into research science careers for money. im going to spend my entire adult life studying how the body works on a chemical level because i want to be rich

heres a map of my get rich quick scheme

Scary!
Oct 22, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

:tviv:

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

lol at the idea that people go into research science careers for money. im going to spend my entire adult life studying how the body works on a chemical level because i want to be rich

Researchers aren't always the only ones involved when new drugs are developed.

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

qkkl posted:

Researchers aren't always the only ones involved when new drugs are developed.

Please gently caress off tia

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



This poo poo has almost completely taken over cough/flu medicine aisles in drug stores here, especially the children's medication section. They try as hard as they can to make it look like actual medicine, and the drug stores make absolutely no distinction.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s not any worse than phenylephrine. :can:

You want the pseudoephedrine from behind the counter, the stuff that you have to sign for.

It’s such a pain to get ahold of these days that you may be off purchasing methamphetamine and synthesising pseudoephedrine from that.

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002
Pillbug

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

I’m worried if this writer’s wage is growing.

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

Powershift posted:

This poo poo has almost completely taken over cough/flu medicine aisles in drug stores here, especially the children's medication section. They try as hard as they can to make it look like actual medicine, and the drug stores make absolutely no distinction.

I imagine profit margins on sugar pills with a one in a million chance of having a single atom of the "active ingredient" in each box are through the roof. And just because research suggests they don't work doesn't mean they can't.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

in any functioning country they at least wouldn't be allowed to claim those effects in the red circle without medical proof.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


flu-like symptoms*

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


Yinlock posted:

flu-like symptoms*

I want to know the story behind fatigue*

Zombiepop
Mar 30, 2010

Frog Act posted:

the nordic welfare model is great and universally applicable as long as you're happy with enslaving the entire third world, so in many ways it is peak liberalism

Yeah true, but also: https://www.cgdev.org/blog/commitment-development-index-2018-europe-leads-way

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016


True, we also make symbolic efforts so we don't have to feel bad.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

lol at the idea that people go into research science careers for money. im going to spend my entire adult life studying how the body works on a chemical level because i want to be rich

heres a map of my get rich quick scheme


I knew it was this bad, but that's still staggering to look at all at once

OChem is like a mental gear check

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ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
flu-like symptoms is just the sports injury report euphemism for hangover

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