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SnoochtotheNooch posted:
Presumably they already had a huge amount of AE but didn't join the coalition due to your alliance.
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RabidWeasel posted:Presumably they already had a huge amount of AE but didn't join the coalition due to your alliance. I guess, I did make a new state after dropping the alliance. But immediately after they stayed friendly for about a year. Then when I rivaled them and allied russia they flipped to outraged and changed from like 80 opinion to -160
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Sep 17, 2018 18:47
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Senor Dog posted:Does anyone happen to know how to get the Poland achievement for pacifying the Sejm nowadays? I went through the event, am a normal monarchy now, and passed my last government reform but I still haven’t got it. As far as I’m aware this achievement has been broken by successive changes to the systems it’s based on. It used to require you to switch to absolute monarchy. Then absolute monarchies got removed and replaced by absolutism, so naturally it was changed to require you to be an administrative monarchy, rather than having anything to do with absolutism. Now those in turn have been removed and all your government bonuses are down to reform types, which is great and cool but there’s no way to become an administrative monarchy anymore so unless they changed the conditions again and I didn’t notice, you can’t get the achievement. That said, the next patch is adding provinces to the P-L part of the map so hopefully someone at Paradox will notice that shits busted.
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Sep 17, 2018 18:48
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Unrelatedly they should patch it so you can convert large amounts of government reform progress into absolutism or monarch power or something if you’re all reformed up and there’s nothing else you can do with it. I don’t know how representative this is but as Mughals I maxed out reforms by like 1650.
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Sep 17, 2018 18:51
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I guess, I did make a new state after dropping the alliance. But immediately after they stayed friendly for about a year. Then when I rivaled them and allied russia they flipped to outraged and changed from like 80 opinion to -160 You get a 5 year truce from breaking alliances. That had to run out for them to join the coalition
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Sep 17, 2018 19:08
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Firebatgyro posted:You get a 5 year truce from breaking alliances. That had to run out for them to join the coalition Yea, but they were friendly up until around the time the truce ended. i just dont get how the 160AE was hiding behind 80 opinion without a marriage or alliance.
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Sep 17, 2018 19:18
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skasion posted:As far as I’m aware this achievement has been broken by successive changes to the systems it’s based on. It used to require you to switch to absolute monarchy. Then absolute monarchies got removed and replaced by absolutism, so naturally it was changed to require you to be an administrative monarchy, rather than having anything to do with absolutism. Now those in turn have been removed and all your government bonuses are down to reform types, which is great and cool but there’s no way to become an administrative monarchy anymore so unless they changed the conditions again and I didn’t notice, you can’t get the achievement. Oh shoot I shouldn’t have played Poland if they’re gettin new stuff soon! Hopefully the patch doesn’t break my save and I can resume it then.
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Sep 17, 2018 19:19
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Senor Dog posted:Oh shoot I shouldn’t have played Poland if they’re gettin new stuff soon! Hopefully the patch doesn’t break my save and I can resume it then.
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Sep 17, 2018 19:43
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I guess, I did make a new state after dropping the alliance. But immediately after they stayed friendly for about a year. Then when I rivaled them and allied russia they flipped to outraged and changed from like 80 opinion to -160 You rivaled them, aka the Otts. You're shocked they hated you after that.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:28
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:Yea, but they were friendly up until around the time the truce ended. i just dont get how the 160AE was hiding behind 80 opinion without a marriage or alliance. I think some weird stuff can happen with tributary states and AE. It might have something to do with that.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:51
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StealthArcher posted:You rivaled them, aka the Otts. I’m not shocked they’re grump, I’m confused how the hell they got in on that godamn coalition. I’ve decided it’s because of the two provinces they had in Gujarat. I ended up keeping that coalition at bay with 0 manpower for most of the war. I have been immediately attacking the coalition as soon as it forms before ottos can join. That seems to be doing the trick. The one war I had with them didn’t go great even though I cleared out their manpower pretty quick they can keep a 200 regiment nerf army up for a long fuckin time.
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Sep 18, 2018 03:25
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I’m not shocked they’re grump, I’m confused how the hell they got in on that godamn coalition. I’ve decided it’s because of the two provinces they had in Gujarat. Joining a coalition requires under -50 relations and over 50 AE with the country iirc. So they had lots of.AE but were your ally, then you broke alliance and rivalled them puahing them under -50 and they jumped on board.
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Sep 18, 2018 08:58
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new dev diary. highlights include lots of provinces in Poland and Eastern Europe, new national ideas for some minors, and some Venice govt mechanics
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Sep 18, 2018 09:57
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StealthArcher posted:Joining a coalition requires under -50 relations and over 50 AE with the country iirc. SnoochtotheNooch posted:Yea, but they were friendly up until around the time the truce ended. i just dont get how the 160AE was hiding behind 80 opinion without a marriage or alliance. I've had allies with good relations at 160+ AE before, and the alliance plus royal marriage factors are only +75 total, so it's definitely possible to be at positive opinion with 160 AE. As another Sunni, your default relations are positive with them, and if you share a religious school then they're higher, and the "friendly" modifier can exist in a lot of circumstances even when your relations would otherwise be negative. Add on a lot from relationship improvement and perhaps some event effects as well, and I can see it. Maybe not +80 exactly, but decently high. Shifts in the AI's attitude towards you can account for some huge swings when they suddenly go from friendly to rival and they want half your land.
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Sep 18, 2018 11:36
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Joining a coalition only requires being under 0 relations, not -50. A very important distinction to make when you're trying to skirt around AE limits and coalitions. Just to clarify, you need to be under 0 overall relation, and have at least a -50 modifier from AE (factoring into that <0 overall)
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Sep 18, 2018 12:15
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:new dev diary. highlights include lots of provinces in Poland and Eastern Europe, new national ideas for some minors, and some Venice govt mechanics  code:
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Sep 18, 2018 12:20
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Poil posted:But I just finished being excited about Dharma. The circle never ends. I am very proud of that one.   Best modifier in the game
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Sep 18, 2018 12:24
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The scornful insult feature is fuckin A+++ by the way. As Mughals I kept getting insulted by Alodia with the “tales of your misdeeds are told from Ireland to Cathay”. Yeah, because I own everything in between them.
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Sep 18, 2018 12:31
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I knew it was going to be a fun thing but I didn't expect to get the response we did on scornful insults. People were way more excited for them than I thought they would.
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Sep 18, 2018 12:40
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Joining a coalition only requires being under 0 relations, not -50. A very important distinction to make when you're trying to skirt around AE limits and coalitions. Yea I figured the 100 trust and 100 improves relation was keeping it up plus them being friendly. The reason I’m saying this is confusing isn’t that they swung so much, it’s how they from bordering me on Persia managed to squeak out 160 AE. Then I stupidly realized it was probably because they had a province in Sind and bengal.
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Sep 18, 2018 12:52
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Groogy posted:I am very proud of that one. skasion posted:The scornful insult feature is fuckin A+++ by the way. As Mughals I kept getting insulted by Alodia with the “tales of your misdeeds are told from Ireland to Cathay”. Yeah, because I own everything in between them. 
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Sep 18, 2018 13:02
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It doesn't affect the relations, but it does work with scornful insults power projection.
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Sep 18, 2018 13:03
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:new dev diary. highlights include lots of provinces in Poland and Eastern Europe, new national ideas for some minors, and some Venice govt mechanics LOL at them making it so you can't tagswitch from "endgame" tags and then the next patch making a new country that endgame tags can switch to.
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Sep 18, 2018 14:28
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The idea of "forming" the mongol empire feels odd. The mongol empire never "formed" irl, it spread. The mongol empire wasn't defined by the specific territory it controlled, but who was in control and the methods they conquered land. And it collapsed hundreds of years before you'll be able to form it in EU4. There are a lot of weird formable nations like this, but this is by far the weirdest. It doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Sep 18, 2018 14:35
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It makes precisely as much sense as reforming the Roman Empire. Reclaiming the "Legacy of Ghengis Khan" is a real completely unobtainable thing that countries had been trying to do basically since he died, same way people were floating completely fanciful claims of restoring the Roman Empire up to the 1940s.
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Sep 18, 2018 15:03
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it's a horde taking over half the world then deciding they were the neo-mongols, like rome formable
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Sep 18, 2018 15:10
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Groogy posted:I am very proud of that one.
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Sep 18, 2018 15:31
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Giving Cossacks more powerful insults is an amazing bit of flavor. (pictured: a Cossack host writing their a reply to a series of demands from the Ottoman sultan)
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Sep 18, 2018 15:57
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Groogy posted:I am very proud of that one. Game would be literally unplayable without it.
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Firebatgyro posted:LOL at them making it so you can't tagswitch from "endgame" tags and then the next patch making a new country that endgame tags can switch to. Can't endgame tags already form Rome?
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Wow, just for the hell of it I decided to try out Sikhism as the Timmies and uhhhhhhhhh That's it? That's, amazingly weak and a massive downgrade from going for Shiite Islam or Hinduism Why on earth did they not buff this religion in the India update???
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Sep 18, 2018 20:01
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Wow, just for the hell of it I decided to try out Sikhism as the Timmies and uhhhhhhhhh The balance of all the new Indian content is not good, unfortunately. Enjoy your illusion-of-choice!
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So I found a weird bug and I was wondering if anyone knows what's going on. I formed Inca as a south american totemist native. This caused me to convert to Inti as normal and authority started tracking up in the bottom, but when I click on the reform button it takes me to normal native reforms not the inti ones. Any idea on what would be causing this?
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Sep 18, 2018 20:56
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Have I mentioned that overall I really enjoy the latest patch? Because I do. Reward yourselves with an imaginary chalice. 
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Terrible Opinions posted:So I found a weird bug and I was wondering if anyone knows what's going on. I formed Inca as a south american totemist native. This caused me to convert to Inti as normal and authority started tracking up in the bottom, but when I click on the reform button it takes me to normal native reforms not the inti ones. Any idea on what would be causing this?
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Huh, seems Mingsplosions are back... I only started playing this game properly when the Third Rome expansion came out, and have racked up over 2000 hours since then (been on partial sick leave etc.); had never seen (not even managed to cause) that mythical beast called a "Mingsplosion" before, but since 1.26 I've seen it happen twice. Didn't have anything to do with it myself, the first time was in a Portugal game where they fell apart before I even got around to exploring that far, and now they blew up into a million bits around 1510 in my Timurids -> Mughals game (before my expanding frontier even started encroaching on their tributaries).
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Sep 19, 2018 08:16
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It's almost certainly because Europeans are chartering land from them or their neighbors, which gives Ming a large neighbor that they can't take tribute from, which tanks their mandate. I think chartering land needs to be reined in a little.
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Sep 19, 2018 08:40
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Fister Roboto posted:It's almost certainly because Europeans are chartering land from them or their neighbors, which gives Ming a large neighbor that they can't take tribute from, which tanks their mandate. But, as early as 1510? Or before even the Portuguese have explored there?
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Sep 19, 2018 08:53
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Europeans chartering land from China and Ming collapsing are both historical so I don't see what the problem is. In fact, I think the limitation on tributary spam and their new aggressiveness (which means they eat up potential tributaries in SEA) hurts them more than Charters. I just wish the Euros would go for Macau or Hong Kong. Those provinces are already special little nooks made for you!
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Mantis42 posted:Europeans chartering land from China and Ming collapsing are both historical so I don't see what the problem is. In fact, I think the limitation on tributary spam and their new aggressiveness (which means they eat up potential tributaries in SEA) hurts them more than Charters. Well, inner strife from the newfound european influence is historical, but the manner of its collapse and the way china never recovers is far from historical, and from a gameplay perspective, ming selling europeans provinces and then immediately dying because of it is pretty dumb. Not to mention that even if another country were to claim mandate and unite china, it would just keep happening with europeans around. This really does not seem like it's working as intended. edit: Also it's questionable to say that Ming's collapse happened because of the appearance of western powers. A whole lot of factors had been bubbling up within China for years leading up to the fall of the ming dynasty that had very little to nothing to do with the europeans. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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