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greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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Buying some GIS today to hold forever

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EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
time to put all my money into penny stocks

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

C.H.O.M.E. posted:

time to put all my money into penny stocks

ARe You looking for reComendations ?

hostile apostle
Aug 29, 2006
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Stadia didn't outlive SA but it did outlive Lowtax - Happy Birthday Stadia! #ad
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TLRY is insane, up another 29% today and even more after hours

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



crazypeltast52 posted:

I sold out of my TSLA call today, paid for both options, so the put is just chilling as a lottery ticket for the next tweet/interview.

Exited out of my put today. Managed to make about 11% on the premiums in 2 weeks, but it was a stupid trade that I shouldn’t have done.

greasyhands posted:

Buying some GIS today to hold forever

If I didn’t live in MN and have local economy risk, I would be all over them.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

I don't even understand what the actual gently caress is going on with $TLRY

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Maybe institutional buying. I know Morgan Stanley Canada buys CGC. Also it is a bubble so who knows it isn't really rational people buying it.

Leperflesh posted:

It's neat that you can see the seasonal pulse of housing prices in that line.

Also, The CPI's failure with regards to tracking housing costs is nicely illustrated by that chart, in that the huge spikes in housing cost clearly aren't affecting the CPI, when they definitely should.

Interesting article. I am always fascinated with how hosed up the economics behind real estate are.

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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Perinnial thread favorite SAFM announced today that nearly 2 million chickens drowned in the Florence flooding. 2 million loving chickens

Syrinxx posted:

I don't even understand what the actual gently caress is going on with $TLRY

It's the meme economy, bro.

literally this big
Jan 10, 2007



Here comes
the Squirtle Squad!

Ya know what? gently caress it. I'm along for the ride.

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets
Is that showing a dead cat bounce?

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

shame on an IGA posted:

I want to play major supply disruptions in pork and softwood pulp products, what do?

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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So here's a fairly simplified version of what is going on with TLRY (and really other weed stocks too, but especially TLRY)

TLRY has a very small float of around 18mil shares, it is not a scam but it is super amateur hour.its basically some potheads with a few lawyers. I've been digging through the 10Q and its riddled with typos and inaccuracies.

That aside, TLRY is 82% owned by a third party called "Privateer holdings". Privateer has 92% of the voting power.

Privateer holdings owns all of the class 1 stock (16,666,667 shares, which, depending on where you look in the 10k either has 3 votes per share or 10... it literally says both at different places) and 58.3mil of 76.4mil class 2 shares (1 vote per share). They originally had 75mil class 1 shares, but those shares convert to class 2 when they are sold to anyone other than a very select few insiders at Privateer- even if they are just transferred to someone else within Privateer. Its not clear when exactly that happened, but thats how Privateer ended up with ~17mil class 1 and ~ 58mil class 2 (notice that adds up to 75mil)

There were also 8mil preferreds which converted at the time of the IPO to class 2 shares. I didnt dig deep enough to figure out who owns them.


So theres currently 76.4million shares of class 2 stock. The IPO was only ~10mil of these, plus 8 million convertible preferred shares converted(as mentioned above). The rest are held by Privateer, so the MAXIMUM float is 18million shares (IPO plus 8mil converted preferreds)- the actual number of shares out there being actively traded is probably significantly lower than even 10 million (the number of shares sold during the IPO). Meaning, just a couple of days ago when the shares were at $100, the effective tradeable market cap was only about $1billion (or less), which could wildly swing based on nothing but retard money.

This is how meme stocks happen, and how all the retards eventually get slaughtered. What is happening right now is all the Privateer guys are staring at each other with their mouths agape, trying to figure out how to dump their shares in the most advantageous way possible and make billions off of a tiny medical marijuana and cannabis oil shop that has literally no proprietary value.

Have fun everyone, this is just slightly more sophisticated bitcoin

greasyhands fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Sep 19, 2018

insider
Feb 22, 2007

A secret room... always my favourite room in a house.
Any thoughts on X Financial IPO tomorrow (XYF)?

Chinese finance company, has been growing fast, but I'm not sure what to think. Only reason I'm even looking at it is because of all these other Chinese IPOs popping off right away before cooling off.

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008
TLRY almost to 220. What the hell

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

insider posted:

Any thoughts on X Financial IPO tomorrow (XYF)?

Chinese finance company, has been growing fast, but I'm not sure what to think. Only reason I'm even looking at it is because of all these other Chinese IPOs popping off right away before cooling off.
Well I'd own some if Robinhood would fill any of the three orders I've tried to place since open

e: in at 15.48, was hoping to be a lot closer to their original price of 9.50

Syrinxx fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Sep 19, 2018

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Very lucky I bought into TLRY a couple weeks ago.

Very unlucky for the profit taking in TNDM.

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


greasyhands posted:

So here's a fairly simplified version of what is going on with TLRY (and really other weed stocks too, but especially TLRY)

TLRY has a very small float of around 18mil shares, it is not a scam but it is super amateur hour.its basically some potheads with a few lawyers. I've been digging through the 10Q and its riddled with typos and inaccuracies.

That aside, TLRY is 82% owned by a third party called "Privateer holdings". Privateer has 92% of the voting power.

Privateer holdings owns all of the class 1 stock (16,666,667 shares, which, depending on where you look in the 10k either has 3 votes per share or 10... it literally says both at different places) and 58.3mil of 76.4mil class 2 shares (1 vote per share). They originally had 75mil class 1 shares, but those shares convert to class 2 when they are sold to anyone other than a very select few insiders at Privateer- even if they are just transferred to someone else within Privateer. Its not clear when exactly that happened, but thats how Privateer ended up with ~17mil class 1 and ~ 58mil class 2 (notice that adds up to 75mil)

There were also 8mil preferreds which converted at the time of the IPO to class 2 shares. I didnt dig deep enough to figure out who owns them.


So theres currently 76.4million shares of class 2 stock. The IPO was only ~10mil of these, plus 8 million convertible preferred shares converted(as mentioned above). The rest are held by Privateer, so the MAXIMUM float is 18million shares (IPO plus 8mil converted preferreds)- the actual number of shares out there being actively traded is probably significantly lower than even 10 million (the number of shares sold during the IPO). Meaning, just a couple of days ago when the shares were at $100, the effective tradeable market cap was only about $1billion (or less), which could wildly swing based on nothing but retard money.

This is how meme stocks happen, and how all the retards eventually get slaughtered. What is happening right now is all the Privateer guys are staring at each other with their mouths agape, trying to figure out how to dump their shares in the most advantageous way possible and make billions off of a tiny medical marijuana and cannabis oil shop that has literally no proprietary value.

Have fun everyone, this is just slightly more sophisticated bitcoin

Thanks for the in depth post. I do agree if you are investing in TLRAY at this point you might as well go for CGC who has an actual business and production ready or ACB or one of the other cheaper ones.

Guys don't forget Eventbrite is coming out on the NYSE tomorrow if you are down for some spicy IPO action. Side note: Peter Jackson the director of LOTR has also funded Eventbrite.

Ulio fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Sep 19, 2018

fougera
Apr 5, 2009

greasyhands posted:

So here's a fairly simplified version of what is going on with TLRY (and really other weed stocks too, but especially TLRY)

TLRY has a very small float of around 18mil shares, it is not a scam but it is super amateur hour.its basically some potheads with a few lawyers. I've been digging through the 10Q and its riddled with typos and inaccuracies.

That aside, TLRY is 82% owned by a third party called "Privateer holdings". Privateer has 92% of the voting power.

Privateer holdings owns all of the class 1 stock (16,666,667 shares, which, depending on where you look in the 10k either has 3 votes per share or 10... it literally says both at different places) and 58.3mil of 76.4mil class 2 shares (1 vote per share). They originally had 75mil class 1 shares, but those shares convert to class 2 when they are sold to anyone other than a very select few insiders at Privateer- even if they are just transferred to someone else within Privateer. Its not clear when exactly that happened, but thats how Privateer ended up with ~17mil class 1 and ~ 58mil class 2 (notice that adds up to 75mil)

There were also 8mil preferreds which converted at the time of the IPO to class 2 shares. I didnt dig deep enough to figure out who owns them.


So theres currently 76.4million shares of class 2 stock. The IPO was only ~10mil of these, plus 8 million convertible preferred shares converted(as mentioned above). The rest are held by Privateer, so the MAXIMUM float is 18million shares (IPO plus 8mil converted preferreds)- the actual number of shares out there being actively traded is probably significantly lower than even 10 million (the number of shares sold during the IPO). Meaning, just a couple of days ago when the shares were at $100, the effective tradeable market cap was only about $1billion (or less), which could wildly swing based on nothing but retard money.

This is how meme stocks happen, and how all the retards eventually get slaughtered. What is happening right now is all the Privateer guys are staring at each other with their mouths agape, trying to figure out how to dump their shares in the most advantageous way possible and make billions off of a tiny medical marijuana and cannabis oil shop that has literally no proprietary value.

Have fun everyone, this is just slightly more sophisticated bitcoin

Low floats are tricky. An example is UBNT, their quarterly results are unpredictable and there’s serious questions about the internal controls of the company, but the stock rips because the Company just buys back shares

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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Selling TLRY calls right here, just sold 2 160 sep 21. Really the only way to short without extreme fees

greasyhands fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 19, 2018

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

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Buglord
Are you selling naked calls on a stock fueled by fomo bitcoin stupidity?

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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Correct

Michael Transactions
Nov 11, 2013

Thinking man

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

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Buglord

Best wishes :stonkhat:

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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Selling 2 of the sep 29 290 calls now

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

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Buglord
booooo bear call spread

hostile apostle
Aug 29, 2006
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Stadia didn't outlive SA but it did outlive Lowtax - Happy Birthday Stadia! #ad
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Hoooo boy, you got some balls

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011



hi everyone. just wanted to share my story. i put $3,000 into an etrade account around January 1 of this year as a way to learn stocks (i was completely new) and to have some fun with learning something new and maybe make money. my first picks were like $GOOG and $BB. I was even bullish on $HMNY lmao.

anyway lots of money lost later, as of today i'm up 9.5%, see above my positions, i'm pretty happy with it so far. lots still to learn, including "when to sell" (haven't gotten there yet) and margin calls (who even knows if i'll ever get there, don't have the time). if anyone else is new or wants to learn from my mistakes, i've probably learned the following lessons the most:

- fees can kill you
- the less you watch the better
- small caps more fun than large caps
- index funds can probably make better returns than active investing
- can't time the market
- research before you buy
- use robinhood instead of etrade

my general tips to find good stocks are as follows:
- find companies with small caps
- find companies where you understand how they make money
- find companies that consistently beat earnings
- find companies where you understand their growth strategy
- find companies with solid and competent management

even if one of the following can't be met, try to stay away... otherwise you might as well go to a casino (that's why i stay away from $TSLA IMHO)

if anyone wants book recommendations, I plowed through 4 or 5 stock market books before i started investing, the best was Peter Lynch's "ONE UP ON WALL STREET" and Jason Kelly's "THE NEATEST LITTLE GUIDE TO STOCK MARKET INVESTING"

anyway thanks for reading and thanks goons for the help along the way. feel free to AMA i guess cheers

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Rocks posted:



hi everyone. just wanted to share my story. i put $3,000 into an etrade account around January 1 of this year as a way to learn stocks (i was completely new) and to have some fun with learning something new and maybe make money. my first picks were like $GOOG and $BB. I was even bullish on $HMNY lmao.

anyway lots of money lost later, as of today i'm up 9.5%, see above my positions, i'm pretty happy with it so far. lots still to learn, including "when to sell" (haven't gotten there yet) and margin calls (who even knows if i'll ever get there, don't have the time). if anyone else is new or wants to learn from my mistakes, i've probably learned the following lessons the most:

- fees can kill you
- the less you watch the better
- small caps more fun than large caps
- index funds can probably make better returns than active investing
- can't time the market
- research before you buy
- use robinhood instead of etrade

my general tips to find good stocks are as follows:
- find companies with small caps
- find companies where you understand how they make money
- find companies that consistently beat earnings
- find companies where you understand their growth strategy
- find companies with solid and competent management

even if one of the following can't be met, try to stay away... otherwise you might as well go to a casino (that's why i stay away from $TSLA IMHO)

if anyone wants book recommendations, I plowed through 4 or 5 stock market books before i started investing, the best was Peter Lynch's "ONE UP ON WALL STREET" and Jason Kelly's "THE NEATEST LITTLE GUIDE TO STOCK MARKET INVESTING"

anyway thanks for reading and thanks goons for the help along the way. feel free to AMA i guess cheers

share an example of a custom screener of yours and what is your next hot stock

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Here is my hot tip. If you aren't beating SPY, buy SPY.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

share an example of a custom screener of yours and what is your next hot stock

not sure if this is a joke but i see a lot of upside in esports, so invest in that somehow

Risky Bisquick posted:

Here is my hot tip. If you aren't beating SPY, buy SPY.

fair enuf

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Risky Bisquick posted:

Here is my hot tip...you aren't beating SPY, buy SPY.

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Rocks posted:

not sure if this is a joke but i see a lot of upside in esports, so invest in that somehow


fair enuf

not a joke I was hoping you would share how you set up your screener to find small cap stocks that are about to do well

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

Rocks posted:



- fees can kill you
- the less you watch the better


These are good tips on why buy and hold generally outperforms and if you arent investing a lot in concentrated positions (lots of money on one position) you will fail.

Day traders often churn themselves out of the game. And any profits are further reduced by taxes.

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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TLRY probably the craziest thing I've ever seen that didn't get halted. Adding to my position. There's not even much volume (relative to what it's doing), it's just a broken market

greasyhands fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Sep 19, 2018

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets
$TSLA is so broken. Clear example of bullish mania in the stock. It’s already back to where it was pre-SEC announcement.

Garfu
Mar 6, 2008

Much like buttholes, families are meant to be tight.
I'm going big on EB tomorrow wish me luck

greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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Lmao it hit 300, I liquidated my whole account and sold more calls into that holy poo poo

Edit: whole "gently caress you money" trading account

Edit: halted, finally

greasyhands fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Sep 19, 2018

fatal oopsie-daisy
Jul 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich
tilray halted hahaha

hostile apostle
Aug 29, 2006
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greasyhands posted:

Lmao it hit 300, I liquidated my whole account and sold more calls into that holy poo poo

Edit: whole "gently caress you money" trading account

Edit: halted, finally

Dude, not worth it. The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. You can't reliably win on these sorts of things, it's all about timing that is literally impossible to predict.

Don't touch the poop

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greasyhands
Oct 28, 2006

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hostile apostle posted:

Dude, not worth it. The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. You can't reliably win on these sorts of things, it's all about timing that is literally impossible to predict.

Don't touch the poop

That's not really how it works, this can go to a 60bil market cap and I'm still covered. You are right I cannot predict when it will crash (as made very obvious JUST NOW) but it will crash. This is not a debatable valuation, it's a broken market

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