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Mazz posted:It sounds like they are blaming Israel like they used the Russian aircraft as a shield from SAM fire, but the answer there is don’t shoot if you’ll hit a friendly aircraft, not shoot anyway and then get mad they used a friendly that way. You mean like how they Blame NATO for for Russia having to invade the Ukraine?
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Murgos posted:You mean like how they Blame NATO for for Russia having to invade the Ukraine? Russia’s blatant use of just just like purely bullshit disinformation in the last decade is honestly impressive. It’s marvelous to read what poo poo they’ll make up next because they know they can. It’s like some slow brew KGB psychops project that they are exposing to the world a little bit more at a time. I wasn’t around for the Cold War proper so maybe its nothing new. Mazz fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 18:58
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Mazz posted:Russia’s blatant use of just just like purely bullshit disinformation in the last decade is honestly impressive. It’s like marvelous to read what poo poo they’ll make up next because they know they can. It’s like some slow brew KGB psychops project that they are exposing to the world a little bit more at a time. I wasn’t around for the Cold War proper so maybe it’s nothing new. For 50 years the Soviets blamed the Nazis for Katyn Forest.
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Mazz posted:Russia’s blatant use of just just like purely bullshit disinformation in the last decade is honestly impressive. It’s like marvelous to read what poo poo they’ll make up next because they know they can. It’s like some slow brew KGB psychops project that they are exposing to the world a little bit more at a time. I wasn’t around for the Cold War proper so maybe it’s nothing new. The difference is that during the Cold War, nobody believed Russia. Also, other than in of areas of strong Soviet control, there was nobody to keep repeating the disinformation until people believed it.
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Sep 18, 2018 19:25
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Platystemon posted:Don’t be ridiculous. By "world-class optical countermeasures," you obviously mean the copious smoke billowing from its funnel. Dr_Strangelove fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 20:54
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Mazz posted:Russia’s blatant use of just just like purely bullshit disinformation in the last decade is honestly impressive. It’s marvelous to read what poo poo they’ll make up next because they know they can. It’s like some slow brew KGB psychops project that they are exposing to the world a little bit more at a time. I wasn’t around for the Cold War proper so maybe its nothing new. I think it was Khrushchev (or whoever was in charge of propaganda under Stalin) who came up with the idea. He realized that he couldn't make sensible Russians believe the plausible bullshit they wanted them to believe because they weren't stupid enough, so they instead spammed the news with unplausible bullshit. Russians stopped believing all news, including the foreign stuff leaking in that was true. Even today if you ask Russians about articles from RT vs articles from NYT, they'll tell you that yes RT is bullshit, but the difference between them and westerners is that they know they're being lied to. They include NYT/WaPo/PBS in news being "all lies" and won't trust any of it. The M.O. of RT makes a lot more sense when you understand the history. It's not a new thing.
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Dr_Strangelove posted:By "world-calls optical countermeasures," you obviously mean the copious smoke billowing from its funnel. Yes.
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Sep 19, 2018 00:59
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Captain Postal posted:I think it was Khrushchev (or whoever was in charge of propaganda under Stalin) who came up with the idea. With the NYT/WaPo they are not wrong e: if you ever wanted a house size bit of a 747 fuselage and have what I'm assuming is a pretty big truck, there are some people who are desperate to hear from you
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Sep 19, 2018 01:10
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Nebakenezzer posted:e: if you ever wanted a house size bit of a 747 fuselage and have what I'm assuming is a pretty big truck, there are some people who are desperate to hear from you This seems like the kind of thing that would make the Bureau of Land Management really angry.
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Sep 19, 2018 01:17
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It pissed off the locals, that's for sure; especially when they were hauling it down I-80.
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Sep 19, 2018 02:32
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they should have just flown the plane in and cut the wings off when they arrived, jeez then it'd just be a matter of bolting them back on to fly away
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Sep 19, 2018 02:38
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dupersaurus posted:Guess I won't be doing my cross country down there on Thursday... Just strap on floats! Get your seaplane rating!
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Sep 19, 2018 02:40
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Sagebrush posted:they should have just flown the plane in and cut the wings off when they arrived, jeez Bing bong bing, so simple!
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Sep 19, 2018 02:44
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Sagebrush posted:they should have just flown the plane in and cut the wings off when they arrived, jeez As long as they don't let the APU in the tail end fall over and set fire to the whole thing... 
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Sep 19, 2018 04:14
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Nebakenezzer posted:With the NYT/WaPo they are not wrong lol
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Sep 19, 2018 13:55
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never knew the president was an accomplished aviation history poster
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Sep 19, 2018 13:55
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First experience on a layflat. Verdict: still can't sleep worth a drat on an aircraft at all. Up for 30+ hours now, sitting in Munich and still have another flight yet today. Going to hit the hotel pillow hard tonight. Upside, should be close enough to evening here I should hopefully not have huge jetlag issues after today.
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Sep 19, 2018 13:58
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slidebite posted:First experience on a layflat. Verdict: still can't sleep worth a drat on an aircraft at all. Up for 30+ hours now, sitting in Munich and still have another flight yet today. Going to hit the hotel pillow hard tonight. Upside, should be close enough to evening here I should hopefully not have huge jetlag issues after today. The real test is going back to a not-lie-flat. Yeah I didn't sleep that amazingly on a lay-flat either, but it was a gently caress sight better than a normal seat (in which I both cannot sleep and am generally uncomfortable, all at the same time!)
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Sep 19, 2018 14:15
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Oh absolutely no doubt. The adjustability of the seat and the legroom was amazing.
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Sep 19, 2018 14:19
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https://twitter.com/cathaypacific/status/0?s=19 Imagine loving up that badly.
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drunkill posted:https://twitter.com/cathaypacific/status/0?s=19 Already deleted. What happened?
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Sep 19, 2018 19:14
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Jonny Nox posted:Already deleted. What happened? "CATHAY PACIIC", in three foot tall letters on the side of the plane. I mean, poo poo, if they're that confused they could've just looked at the work order.
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Sep 19, 2018 19:16
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/cathay-pacific-spells-its-name-wrong-on-side-of-plane/ar-BBNyeTv?li=BBnb7Kz efb
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Sep 19, 2018 19:17
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That's great! But who are the Chefs?
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Sep 19, 2018 21:28
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Great googly moogly
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Sep 19, 2018 21:43
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madeintaipei posted:"CATHAY PACIIC", in three foot tall letters on the side of the plane. I mean, poo poo, if they're that confused they could've just looked at the work order. As was pointed out somewhere else online the spacing of the letters is a little too good for this to be a gently caress up. Chances are it's a (bad) social media stunt.
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Sep 19, 2018 21:53
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Sagebrush posted:they should have just flown the plane in and cut the wings off when they arrived, jeez I have no idea if you could land in the lakebed/desert/whatev where burning man is, but imagine the antics of a C-17 / An-124 outfitted Jabba's Party barge style is pretty amusing
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Sep 19, 2018 23:03
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Nebakenezzer posted:I have no idea if you could land in the lakebed/desert/whatev where burning man is, but imagine the antics of a C-17 / An-124 outfitted Jabba's Party barge style is pretty amusing iirc they have a temp landing strip for small GA stuff, nothing over 12,500lbs
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Sep 20, 2018 02:48
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Huh yes, mixing aviation with a bunch of rich douchebags who are high on everything one can get high on, this will end well!
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Sep 20, 2018 03:11
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PT6A posted:Huh yes, mixing aviation with a bunch of rich douchebags who are high on everything one can get high on, this will end well! There's already an "airport" that operates during Burning Man, which gets quite a bit of business from people that want to skydive on hallucinogenics, as well as a bunch of charter stuff ferrying in the tech bros from the SF bay area.
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Sep 20, 2018 07:08
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Protip: the best time to visit San Francisco is while Burning Man is in session.
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PT6A posted:Always know what's behind/near the thing you're shooting at. It's a basic rule of firearm safety and I certainly don't see why it should be any different for missiles. They probably did know since "the IL-20 [...] had an effective reflective surface an order of magnitude greater than that of the F-16".
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I'm guessing the Russian made S-200 operator's interface isn't super helpful and the Syrian operator isn't super clever. It's probably a great missile system with a top notch radar operator in a well controlled environment. Tactics like that are probably taught as "so dumb and so easy to correct for, it's not worth building a doctrine on", but recognizing a weakness and capitalizing on it is what makes a winner. I bet the Israeli pilots were laughing their asses off.
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Ola posted:I'm guessing the Russian made S-200 operator's interface isn't super helpful and the Syrian operator isn't super clever. It's probably a great missile system with a top notch radar operator in a well controlled environment.
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PT6A posted:Huh yes, mixing aviation with a bunch of rich douchebags who are high on everything one can get high on, this will end well! Didn't they try that already? I thought it was called "the 70s".
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Finger Prince posted:Didn't they try that already? I thought it was called "the 70s". There's a part of me that loves seeing planes I grew up loving and wondering how the gently caress they were upgraded to current. Speaking as an ex aircraft tech (No F111 fuel tank cleaning thankfully! I was too big)
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