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Verisimilidude posted:Terranigma owns, it's a shame it didn't make its way to the US because it's better than Chrono Trigger imo Quintet tried to make the same game 5 times: Actraiser 1 and 2, and the 3 Soulblazer games, and basically experimented with a different form for each game. Terranigma is still flawed and it would be a better game if it didn't have the weird convention of player levels and instead just made the enemies mechanically more difficult over time, I think that's probably what they were originally going for but it turned out it was too hard to scale the difficulty curve so they threw in levels to give a sense of progression. It would be cool if instead of levels, you got access to more magic rings and could just use them on the fly as regular moves, instead of going into a menu. It's got the best story though. The best RPG mechanicaly speaking is probably Lufia 2, but it has the most generic RPG story ever. Wrath of the Bitch King posted:It had great characters and individual arcs for them, but the overarching story was just "ok." Time travel shenanigans were handled really, really well though. IoG is just a strange game, I still don't get what half of the things that happened in that game were supposed to be, like was the light from the comet supposed to be mutating radiation or something? I think my favorite scenes are when the painter paints his self portrait and locks himself in the frame in some bizarre form of suicide, and when the russian roulette guy kills himself and leaves you his kangaroos so you can cross the desert. It's got a kind of dream logic from the minds of a bunch of early 90's Japanese hippies, and I'm pretty sure La Mulana was inspired by those games, the tone is so similar. It's got the best mood and the best music of any game on the SNES, it's truly creative even if it's not perfect. SMRPG was fun but also kind of ugly and I wouldn't say it was a very great game. CT was really good but I just don't love it as much as the Soublazer games. Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Sep 19, 2018 18:14
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I really like Hollow Knight 
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Sep 19, 2018 18:22
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I know  I got it on sale for the switch and thought it sucked for the first hour and next thing I know I’m 15 hours in over the weekend I’m really enjoying it (haven’t played a Metroidvania in ages, maybe that helps)
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Twelve Batmans posted:Breath of Fire IV has one of the saddest and most gripping/engaging stories of any game I've played. It's music and visual style are also A+++. I got to the part where you have to sail through some featureless grass plains or desert or something and gave up since the game doesn't give any direction and I didn't feel like searching gamefaqs for a walkthough.
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Sep 19, 2018 18:30
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The terrain in that game ranges pretty wildly but I didn’t appreciate “horrific wasteland” and “horrific wasteland with swamps” as memorable locales
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Sep 19, 2018 18:33
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Vakal posted:I got to the part where you have to sail through some featureless grass plains or desert or something and gave up since the game doesn't give any direction and I didn't feel like searching gamefaqs for a walkthough. The game gives you accurate directions (and hints in the form of birds that circle around you to indicate you're going the proper direction) but the compass is weird. I guess maybe I didn't find that part as annoying since 3 had the Desert of Death and not only does the guy in game give you incorrect instructions but so did the official strategy guide.
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There's actually two sets of instructions in game, one of them is true and the other isn't. I forget which is which, but you're told directions before going into the desert, and also there's instructions when you (I think) make camp.
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Phantasium posted:There's actually two sets of instructions in game, one of them is true and the other isn't. I forget which is which, but you're told directions before going into the desert, and also there's instructions when you (I think) make camp. Yeah but you can just cheat and walk forward between the true and false north stars.
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Twelve Batmans posted:Breath of Fire IV has one of the saddest and most gripping/engaging stories of any game I've played. It's music and visual style are also A+++. BoF IV is a great gen 5 jrpg, though I'll never understand why they felt the need to obscure the beautiful spritework with some truly dismal looking polygonal dragons. It's great in nearly every other way tho
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:BoF IV is a great gen 5 jrpg, though I'll never understand why they felt the need to obscure the beautiful spritework with some truly dismal looking polygonal dragons. The transformation supers were disappointing. But the models for the World Dragons imo are a wonderful example of some beautiful low-poly work.
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super mario rpg has great songs, person who said otherwise < >
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Twelve Batmans posted:The transformation supers were disappointing. But the models for the World Dragons imo are a wonderful example of some beautiful low-poly work. Dogman with Katana was loving ace.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Looking back this isn't exactly high praise. Chrono Trigger is by no means bad, but it's pretty average. Super Mario RPG is far superior, imo. This is the worst opinion this far
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Shibawanko posted:The best RPG mechanicaly speaking is probably Lufia 2, but it has the most generic RPG story ever. Maxim makes that game worth it, and despite knowing what is going to happen in the plot before you even start to play it's super fun from start to finish. Shibawanko posted:IoG is just a strange game, I still don't get what half of the things that happened in that game were supposed to be, like was the light from the comet supposed to be mutating radiation or something? I think my favorite scenes are when the painter paints his self portrait and locks himself in the frame in some bizarre form of suicide, and when the russian roulette guy kills himself and leaves you his kangaroos so you can cross the desert. It's got a kind of dream logic from the minds of a bunch of early 90's Japanese hippies, and I'm pretty sure La Mulana was inspired by those games, the tone is so similar. It's got the best mood and the best music of any game on the SNES, it's truly creative even if it's not perfect. From what I remember in IoG the comet itself was Dark Gaia, mutating and corrupting things from afar in preparation for an arrival hundreds of years in the future. My favorite part of the game is still the ship of gold and how that entire sequence plays out. That and the whale...despite the sadness and misery that went along with that. Now that I think about it IoG might be the most downer game I've ever played.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Dogman with Katana was loving ace. He was a drunk in the Japanese version but Capcom U.S.A didn't like that so they gave him a stutter instead. Yeah it was pretty  Shame they removed his Analyze ability in the US version too though. Apparently it had stats/weakness/tidbits for every enemy in the game.
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Twelve Batmans posted:He was a drunk in the Japanese version but Capcom U.S.A didn't like that so they gave him a stutter instead. I wish Momo had been an unlockable character in IV.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I really like Hollow Knight The map system is terrible, though. I don't know what they were thinking. You need to return to one of the infrequent checkpoints to update your map with newly explored areas, you cannot update your map with the areas of a new region you have explored until you find the map dude in that region (which can be difficult/deep in the region) and buy a map from him, and most bizarrely of all you have to give up an equipment slot if you want to fuckin see your dude on the map. Also I probably shouldn't have played Dead Cells right before I started it. For all its own issues, Dead Cells' combat and movement mechanics are glorious and Hollow Knight's are... passable.
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Whatev posted:I am enjoying it. I think once you have dash, things improve exponentially over the early game, which I did find frustrating and bad. The map part is frustrating, but it makes sense. You are a warrior bug, not a cartographer. It makes sense you wouldn't be able to make a map. As for filling it in, would you sit down and pull out your crayons in a dangerous location? When you look at a paper map do you automatically see where you are? No, you would need some sort of magic.
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Oscar Wild posted:The map part is frustrating, but it makes sense. You are a warrior bug, not a cartographer. It makes sense you wouldn't be able to make a map. As for filling it in, would you sit down and pull out your crayons in a dangerous location? When you look at a paper map do you automatically see where you are? No, you would need some sort of magic. Nah. It actually sounds bad.
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Whatev posted:Also I probably shouldn't have played Dead Cells right before I started it. For all its own issues, Dead Cells' combat and movement mechanics are glorious and Hollow Knight's are... passable. i got dead cells because I like a lot of games like it, but the movement seems so bad tbh. what about it do you enjoy? to me it feels like I have the movement capabilities of a stone golem. e - i actually went to play it again because its a game i know id like when i get into it. upon review, my characterization was unfair, the only stone golem part of the movement is the jump. and i dont think i ever noticed before you can double jump  im going back to playing some more now, its very fun and ive gotten further than i have before
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I seriously enjoy Dead Cells, it's like video game crack, but Hollow Knight is a much much better game. Hollow Knight has drat near perfect controls and movement I have no idea how anyone could think it's bad wtf Unpopular Dead Cells opinion even though I like it a lot. It gets way too samey way too quick and the character upgrades totally stink and add almost nothing to the game outside of essentially functioning as keys to new areas. In HK or any good metroidvania your new abilities not only give you access to new areas, but become things you constantly use in gameplay. I think I have all of the abilities in dead cells and I haven't used a single one except to get to new areas. The only one that actually does anything other than unlock a gate is the wall climb, and it's also useless and actually hinders me when I stick to things I don't want to. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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veni veni veni posted:I seriously enjoy Dead Cells, it's like video game crack, but Hollow Knight is a much much better game. Hollow Knight comparatively is harder and Dead Cells has more Diablo DNA, making it more appealing to many
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Ocean Book posted:i got dead cells because I like a lot of games like it, but the movement seems so bad tbh. what about it do you enjoy? to me it feels like I have the movement capabilities of a stone golem. Where Dead Cells really shines is its weapons. They didn't just slap different effects on the same crap; they all have unique attack animations/combos. Hollow Knight's controls are certainly not bad, they're just very simple/traditional. What I especially miss from Dead Cells is that jump attack, since the one in Hollow Knight is a big soul using thing rather than a basic movement mechanic. Even so, Hollow Knight is probably the better game since for all the good stuff about Dead Cells, it feels half-baked and ultimately kind of unsatisfying.
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Roguelite games with meta progression like Dead Cells or Rogue Legacy suck because the difficulty is all out of whack and you can substitute learning the game or being good at it with just grind.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Maxim makes that game worth it, and despite knowing what is going to happen in the plot before you even start to play it's super fun from start to finish. Lufia 2 was the only SNES game ever translated into Dutch, and came in one of those big boxes with a full sized strategy guide and walkthrough, which is very weird since Lufia 1 was never actually released in Holland and so they just called the game Lufia without any indication that it was a sequel, it was strange when I later emulated the first game and found out it starts with the ending from Lufia 2 as a prologue. I think Terranigma got the same treatment in Germany, with a big box and guide and a wonky translation. It seems like they tried to cram every possible game mechanic into Lufia 2, it's got a proto-Pokemon type monster collecting system, a built in roguelike and casino with a poker AI (both of which comprise like 90% of the value of the game if you ask me), but the story is really by the numbers, including every cliched rear end character from every RPG and anime show thrown in. I loved it though, the ancient cave was my first roguelike, even if the iris treasures gave you nothing if you collected them all. And I could play it in Dutch! IoG and Terranigma made me want to travel to all those ancient ruins and cities in real life. Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Jack Trades posted:Roguelite games with meta progression like Dead Cells or Rogue Legacy suck because the difficulty is all out of whack and you can substitute learning the game or being good at it with just grind. You can, but don't have to. I've been interested in trying to beat rogue legacy with no upgrades, for instance.
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Ocean Book posted:You can, but don't have to. I've been interested in trying to beat rogue legacy with no upgrades, for instance. The fact that you can ignore bad game design doesn't excuse it being there in the first place.
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I loved Hollow Knight at the beginning, but got really frustrated with it as things went on. The map is huge and, in my opinion, not very well structured. You do an enormous amount of backtracking and running into dead ends, not to mention how often you'll die and have to backtrack there, too. Once I got the dash I got more into it, until I hit another cycle of dying and having to re-do massive parts of the game. I quit playing at about 10 hours and don't really have a desire to pick it up. And I died so many times in areas I hadn't mapped yet, leading to me basically stumbling around in the dark to get back my hard-earned geo. For context, I love all the Castlevania games. I'm currently replaying all the 3DS ones. There's backtracking there, too, but it never feels as frustrating or as hopeless. I also love Super Metroid and replay that about once a year.
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What's TPS? Tactical Person Shooter? I actually like the idea of calling 3d games where you shoot people Person Shooters
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SolidStank posted:SOCOM 2 was the best TPS ever. I played so many hours of the Delta Force 2 demo where you had to wipe out a drug cartel base hidden in an old volcano valley or something along those lines.
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SolidStank posted:SOCOM 2 was the best TPS ever. Rainbow 6: rogue spear is what I think you meant.
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Shibawanko posted:What's TPS? Tactical Person Shooter? Third Person Shooter, as opposed to FPS.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I loved Hollow Knight at the beginning, but got really frustrated with it as things went on. Git gud
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Now that I think about it IoG might be the most downer game I've ever played.  the whole game had a really bleak vibe. you slowly lost all your friends to horrible deaths until you were prettymuch alone at the end. poo poo, if i remember correctly i think theres even a part where the main love interests pet pig ends up suiciding itself into a fire so some cannibal tribe wont eat you. 12 year old me was not ready for that poo poo.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Git gud Dont know why youre telling him that and not the game developer
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You can't get all the collectibles in the game unless you rat out an escaped slave to a bunch of slavers.
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socom 2 is seriously good. it was the height of anything done on the ps2. IF you had the modem and broadband anyway. It was so loving hard to find a place that sold the modem peripheral around me. walmart might stock one or two a year, the non-gamestop resale shops might sometimes pick one up from resale. I think my dad ended up ordering the one we got off a sony catalog because we couldn't find a physical vendor. But drat it was worth it. [KDS] (Killer's Disciple Society) I miss you. Big pimpin J if you're out there somewhere hit me uppp it's Aendaar!!!!!!!!!!!
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The pig's name was Hamlet and one character says like "Heh... To eat or not to eat?" Phantasium posted:You can't get all the collectibles in the game unless you rat out an escaped slave to a bunch of slavers. I really liked the secret dungeon, all spooky and with creepy paintings
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