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I have put like three hundred hours into Fallout New Vegas and spent about ten seconds trying to learn Caravan before deciding I don't give a poo poo
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So my friend bought me No Man's Sky on XBox, it wasn't even on sale. He just wanted to play with someone. I had no interest in playing it after reading the old threads back when it came out, I had heard there was a major update but still had no interest. gently caress the UI. gently caress having to hold X to select everything, gently caress the menus where your cursor always starts away from any selection choices, gently caress the missions menu, gently caress having to have a mission selected to see important details instead of putting that in the mission list, gently caress the time menus and general interactions take, gently caress mining costing resources, gently caress several minute travel times, gently caress loading and transport screens that make me sick, gently caress the base building interface And gently caress the inventory management which is 90% of this game
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Sep 19, 2018 21:34
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Devil May Cry V: Oh wow, Dante's fight theme is unfortunate compared to Nero's
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Sep 19, 2018 21:44
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The only good minigames are Triple Triad, Gwent and the one a bunch of people are going to complain I haven't said here
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Sep 19, 2018 23:06
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Qwertycoatl posted:The only good minigames are Triple Triad, Gwent and the one a bunch of people are going to complain I haven't said here Blitz Ball?
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Sep 19, 2018 23:33
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I play Blackjack in every single game that lets me, I love that poo poo Dice Poker in Witcher 2 was also my poo poo
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Sep 19, 2018 23:37
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Qwertycoatl posted:The only good minigames are Triple Triad, Gwent and the one a bunch of people are going to complain I haven't said here Its the hidden tank mini game in Duke Nukem for the sega saturn.
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Sep 20, 2018 00:07
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I loved liar’s dice in Red Dead Redemption. Sometimes I’d boot the game up just to play a few rounds of dice and nothing else.
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Sep 20, 2018 00:14
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Arcomage in might and magic 7 is a pretty deep cut but it's brilliant
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Sep 20, 2018 00:35
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RBA Starblade posted:I have put like three hundred hours into Fallout New Vegas and spent about ten seconds trying to learn Caravan before deciding I don't give a poo poo Same. I have no intention of getting the achievements for playing caravan or siding with the legion.
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Sep 20, 2018 02:32
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Morpheus posted:I just loving hate gambling in video games. It's no fun. I don't want to play poker, I don't want to play blackjack, I don't want to play Koi or Cho-han, or any of that poo poo. I especially don't want to play roulette. It's just so out of place in a game, there's no point to it - there are better ways to get money, more fun ways that actual utilize the mechanics of the game, and when you lose...who benefits? Like, what's the point? Why not make a system that favours the player? Who's going to lose out if that's the case? Fishing is the same way in Yakuza games - it's a random chance where you're staring at the screen, hoping that a) you don't spend five minutes reeling in trash (seriously why does trash fight back) b) the fish you want actually bites and c) you don't get hosed and just lose the fish randomly, wasting all your time. Koi Koi is insanely good, friend
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Sep 20, 2018 02:49
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HAmbONE posted:So my friend bought me No Man's Sky on XBox, it wasn't even on sale. He just wanted to play with someone. I had no interest in playing it after reading the old threads back when it came out, I had heard there was a major update but still had no interest. I don't understand how they can fix so much with the game, but still someone looks at the UI and goes "yes, this is fine". They found a way to make everything about it a chore. Inventory management feels even worse. You never really get ahead of it. At first you are dealing with a few resources on your suit, then you get a ship and now the amount of resources has tripled, but your inventory only doubled. After upgrading both a bit, I then got a freighter. Surely a mammoth ship that is designed to carry hundreds of tons of cargo will help, nevermind it has 16 slots. Cool, my huge ship has less inventory then my suit.
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Sep 20, 2018 03:14
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Samuringa posted:Dice Poker in Witcher 2 was also my poo poo Was it 1 or 2 where if you threw the dice too hard they'd fall off the board and not count? That was infuriating.
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Overwatch Porn posted:Koi Koi is insanely good, friend Well maybe one day Yakuza will actually deign to teach the rules. But even then, just keep it out of the game. There are other games dedicated to Koi Koi. I just don't understand the need to take a game in which you're a badass character, fighting tons of guys and fulfilling some cool action hero stereotype, then give you a deck of cards and say "oh hey you're beholden to this deck, no you don't have any abilities, no your experience and power doesn't apply to this, no this doesn't affect any other part of the game at all, and no youve got the same odds as everyone else here" Fun. Lemme draw a card. Oh, I lost. Okay great can I get back to punching guys? In games like Fallout, you can change this. High luck means you rake in the cash. In Dragon Quest (XI, at least) the casino is heavily weighted in your favour. In Yakuza, nothing. It's just plain gambling games. Odds are against you. No skill involved (for most of them). Fuuuuun.
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Sep 20, 2018 03:46
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Samuringa posted:Shooting the bomb to disarm it at the start of Human Revolution was a nice touch but I can't quite recall other little details like that. The game actually has a decent number of little interactions and alternate options like that, but frustratingly they're never really spelled out or super intuitive. It wasn't until waaaay after my first playthrough(s) that I found out you can use the stun gun to temporarily disable cameras or that you can use an armor piercing 10mm pistol to break destructible walls. (Said walls are also all over the drat place, both in the sewers where they're almost always hiding a goodie cache and in missions where they offer massive shortcuts. Since they only get highlighted if you buy the break walls augment, I never really noticed them the first time.)
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Sep 20, 2018 04:08
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Morpheus posted:Well maybe one day Yakuza will actually deign to teach the rules. But even then, just keep it out of the game. There are other games dedicated to Koi Koi. i haven't played a whole lot of yakuza but can't you just like ... not do them
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Sep 20, 2018 04:23
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John Murdoch posted:The game actually has a decent number of little interactions and alternate options like that, but frustratingly they're never really spelled out or super intuitive. It wasn't until waaaay after my first playthrough(s) that I found out you can use the stun gun to temporarily disable cameras or that you can use an armor piercing 10mm pistol to break destructible walls. (Said walls are also all over the drat place, both in the sewers where they're almost always hiding a goodie cache and in missions where they offer massive shortcuts. Since they only get highlighted if you buy the break walls augment, I never really noticed them the first time.)
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Sep 20, 2018 05:26
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Overwatch Porn posted:i haven't played a whole lot of yakuza but can't you just like ... not do them Absolutely. I beat 0 and Kiwami out even bothering to touch most of the mini games. Platinum Adventure mode unlocks when you finish the story for free roam dick around funtimes, so you really only need to slam your way through them for 100% completion. (And that barely even affects gameplay, you’ll have all your abilities and moves unlocked ages before then.)
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Sep 20, 2018 05:31
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it's a god drat shame they don't/won't have online poker in gta 5 or the new red dead. doubly so for gta 5 which has a literal casino in the game already. something to do with buying funbux with real money or something so gambling isnt allowed. in red dead online all i did was play poker
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Sep 20, 2018 05:53
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I like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and love the last mission. The real bad part is the microtransaction garbage and the weird microtransaction Breach mode. Adding single use dlc to single player games needs to not be a thing. Also it isn't optimised very well.
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Sep 20, 2018 06:09
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Blood Omen's general difficulty is a bit stupid at times, mostly because of how obtuse some of the secrets are (and some things feel necessary enough they shouldn't be hidden behind secrets). I'm on my way to Dark Eden and I'd read about the Heart of Darkness shrine, so expected to find it and move on after getting some extra healing power because those are some of the rarer collectibles and the collectibles don't respawn. However, the puzzle to unlock the shrine is right at the start of the game at the cemetery. How the gently caress was I supposed to figure that out? The trigger is nowhere near the door, and while to be fair access to this shrine may break the game, they don't have enough hearts in the latter half of the game to justify not using it. Some of this game is fairly obnoxious.
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Sep 20, 2018 07:32
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In Human Revolution you couldn’t non-lethally bust through walls as Adam would just snap the neck of the guy on the other side.
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I really liked HR. The writing was actually pretty good for a videogame and the voice acting rocked. I think the thing dragging it down was the XP system. I think Bloodlines sorted it where they gave you XP for completing milestones in the story. Though I tried a run-through where I just went fully aggressive and you don’t need many Praxis Points to walk into a room and eradicate everyone in that room with the minigun.
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HR was really close to being a legendary game (where it is is one that's Extremely Good imo), it just has these little quirks that ruin an otherwise great experience. Such as the bosses being a total shift from the rest of the game or the power regeneration system being really poorly conceived. I'd criticize the back half for feeling rushed but the original had that exact problem so it'd be pretty unfair.
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BioEnchanted posted:Blood Omen's general difficulty is a bit stupid at times, mostly because of how obtuse some of the secrets are (and some things feel necessary enough they shouldn't be hidden behind secrets). I'm on my way to Dark Eden and I'd read about the Heart of Darkness shrine, so expected to find it and move on after getting some extra healing power because those are some of the rarer collectibles and the collectibles don't respawn. However, the puzzle to unlock the shrine is right at the start of the game at the cemetery. How the gently caress was I supposed to figure that out? The trigger is nowhere near the door, and while to be fair access to this shrine may break the game, they don't have enough hearts in the latter half of the game to justify not using it. Some of this game is fairly obnoxious. LoK is one of those rare games that both holds up extremely well and yet still has some occasional eye rolling era-appropriate BS. A remaster/remake of Blood Omen would be a phenomenal thing to have. poo poo, just make it a Witcher 3 mod, half the work done right there.
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Barudak posted:Its the hidden tank mini game in Duke Nukem for the sega saturn. DEATH TANK! DEATH TANK! DEATH TANK!
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DXHR is pretty good and replayable. The piss filter and boss fights didn't actually bother me. It's more that the whole aug racism made absolutely no sense to me. The original deus ex was much more interesting and diverse with the setting and topics. DXHR is all about that transhumanism thing and that's it. Everybody talks about that one topic. The gameworld feels small because of that. Also its a less complex game than the original gameplay wise. Still love it tho, I didnt know about that AP bullets wall thing. Couldve saved me some praxis.
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Schneider Inside Her posted:I really liked HR. The writing was actually pretty good for a videogame and the voice acting rocked. I think the thing dragging it down was the XP system. I think Bloodlines sorted it where they gave you XP for completing milestones in the story. It feels like they struggled to come up with aug ideas, which only exacerbates the XP system because there's so many dud options. I'm currently playing mostly optimally (not full blown  style) and I'm pretty much at the point where I have no idea what to put points into anymore.Also cloaking is absurdly broken and would turn stealth into a joke if not for the fact that often there's a clearly intended stealth route that prevents you from being spotted anyway. Of course, on the flipside, there have been times where I have no clue what the map intends for me to do outside of cloaking past specific guards or employing really finicky knockout chains. Mind you, while I'm being down on the game cuz that's the thread, the whole reason I'm replaying it is because I love it.
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The aug racism thing is hamfisted and doesn't make any sense. It goes on and on about people becoming dependent on paying exorbitant amounts for the aug drug - cool, it has a slight Big Pharma Doesn't Want To Cure Diseases They Can Profit From vibe but it's a good base. Then it just... doesn't do anything with it. You spend so much time arguing about augments and hearing pro/anti arguments that never go a single step further than "augs are unnatural and ungodly", "no they're fun", "no". Nothing beyond background noise about the actual concrete issues that would come up. How desperate people are being exploited and forced to get augs to work in harder and more dangerous conditions, how non-augmented people are disadvantaged in employment prospects etc. My memory is a little hazy, maybe getting some of this backwards because this was like five years ago but it felt like a waste. It's fuckin cyberpunk actually deal with the themes of the genre
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I didn't really have a major issue with it in DEHR, but MD entirely dropped the pretenses and used augs as a direct race metaphor. It's like they wanted to tell a story that tackles some really heavy topics, but then found the most chickenshit way to do it, as not to actually say anything about the real world. Cyberpunk doesn't work when you use the scifi elements as a stand-in for real issues. It works when it uses the scifi elements to examine real issues. Mankind Divided has it backwards.
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Yeah drat augs stealing my tech support jerb. It only gets dumber the more you think about it. They wrote themselves into a corner with that. Would help if that wasn't all they had.
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Sep 20, 2018 11:45
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Would have been a great plot if it had people subscribing to their augmentations the way they do to services today. Get behind on your payments, the company remotely locks down your arms, and you can't do your dockworker job. Then blur the lines between your employer and the companies, throw in some stuff like repo men and pirates selling knockoff or cracked augs, remotely controlled augs, and you got one hell of a cyberpunk story. It's been a while since I played it, this may or may not have been actually in it already. If I can put on my tinfoil hat for a second, I suspect "[thing] as service" wouldn't be a theme companies like Sony and Microsoft particularly want explored on their platforms.
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Deus ex is good but cyberpunk 2077 seems to be the exact game i wanted deus ex to be,more crazy body augmentation poo poo,less pondering.
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It's neuropozine - the proprietary drug you gotta buy it from big aug. They smuggle it and everything in that game. It's not a bad premise but the whole world is like stumped about what to do about the situation and also half the population is inexplicably augmented. People willingly replacing their limbs knowing full well the maintenace costs and about the drug dependency. Also to do what? Apart from military what upsides are there to being augmented? The player feels like the smartest person in that world.
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Also another issue I have with the two games: in HR augs are used as an extension of inequality. Augmented people just have it better off and that causes tension. But for the second game they decided to go for the racism comparison, so they had to cook up an event where most of the upper class suddenly globally turns in to the oppressed underclass overnight. The whole shift between the games is really jarring to me.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Arcomage in might and magic 7 is a pretty deep cut but it's brilliant Thank you for reminding me about this.
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im pooping! posted:it's a god drat shame they don't/won't have online poker in gta 5 or the new red dead. doubly so for gta 5 which has a literal casino in the game already. something to do with buying funbux with real money or something so gambling isnt allowed. in red dead online all i did was play poker Are there not already hundreds of places where you can play online poker with idiots who don’t bet appropriately because there’s no real money on it
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Sep 20, 2018 13:29
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:How desperate people are being exploited and forced to get augs to work in harder and more dangerous conditions, how non-augmented people are disadvantaged in employment prospects etc. They had this for like one NPC. She was forced to get augs for her job, but as soon as newer augs came out she got ditched because the employers wanted the new model so she ends up stuck with some useless stuff with side effects
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BioEnchanted posted:Blood Omen's general difficulty is a bit stupid at times, mostly because of how obtuse some of the secrets are (and some things feel necessary enough they shouldn't be hidden behind secrets). I'm on my way to Dark Eden and I'd read about the Heart of Darkness shrine, so expected to find it and move on after getting some extra healing power because those are some of the rarer collectibles and the collectibles don't respawn. However, the puzzle to unlock the shrine is right at the start of the game at the cemetery. How the gently caress was I supposed to figure that out? The trigger is nowhere near the door, and while to be fair access to this shrine may break the game, they don't have enough hearts in the latter half of the game to justify not using it. Some of this game is fairly obnoxious. I don't recall finding the heart shrine, but I do recall that the late game involved me needing to spam all the consumables I had stockpiled earlier. I liked the ridiculous exploration required in that game though just because I liked being in that world. The writing and character design/world design were all so loving good in that game. It's a shame Denis Dyack and Ken McCulloch turned out to be such bad dudes or somebody really might remake it.
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Qwertycoatl posted:They had this for like one NPC. She was forced to get augs for her job, but as soon as newer augs came out she got ditched because the employers wanted the new model so she ends up stuck with some useless stuff with side effects Oh yeah I remember that. That's the interesting stuff. That should be a super big deal
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