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Brought To You By posted:2 solar systems god royally hosed by losing the gravitational center, and heat source. In a war where that left planets without suns in the first place I'm willing to bet there were at least two suns that were just being the gravitational center and heat source of jack poo poo by the time Solomon David got his 111111 universes.
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Remember that "universes" includes Allison's universe, which is identical to ours save for a shocking lack of Australia. It's a really big place that can probably spare a couple otherwise unaccompanied suns, and there's nothing saying Sol Dave doesn't have a few of those universes kicking around. Of course what he probably actually did is take the suns of a couple different purely heliocentric universes, the centerpiece and source of all of their little pocket of creation, and used those to light his homeworld. Two of them, even, because he's Solomon David, and gently caress you.
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Sep 20, 2018 14:23
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ThaumPenguin posted:Both he and his rival (The Vlad Tepes-lookalike) were already demiurges, IIRC the seven keys are a consolidation of the 777,777 keys that already existed, each for one universe Mottom just cut her husband's throat; the demiurges are still as mortal as anyone if you catch them unprepared, they're just extremely good at fightan and can gently caress you up if they see it coming. There's a reason there's no longer thousands of them Hence, Solomon choreographing the terms his would-be "successors" challenge him on so he will always see them coming. Formal single combat with him is basically, he sits across the arena with a shotgun already leveled at you and tells you to come and take it from him. To demonstrate his fair-mindedness. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 20, 2018 14:54
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Phy posted:Remember that "universes" includes Allison's universe, which is identical to ours save for a shocking lack of Australia. wait what
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Sep 20, 2018 15:16
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Red Metal posted:wait what it was a throw-away joke made in response to a question... on tumblr, i think? so of course it's now 100% canon
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Mottom just cut her husband's throat; the demiurges are still as mortal as anyone if you catch them unprepared, they're just extremely good at fightan and can gently caress you up if they see it coming. There's a reason there's no longer thousands of them He also tells his sons to come at him whenever they want. Solomon David isn't just operating on the most basic tyrannous level, and I trust he'll be just as awful and have as much complexity as Mottom or Mammon. If not more, since he'll have more time to develop. Unless Gog-Agog steals the show.
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Solomon David is exactly what he says he is - a benevolent dictator, and the point is benevolent dictators are still really awful.
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Sep 20, 2018 16:34
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I mean, yeah, Solomon is absolutely not trying to tilt the field in his favour. He openly invited his sons to Julius Caesar him, and formal matches only last until someone draws blood from him or yields (or dies, I guess). I think it’s safe to assume that while he’s not functionally invulnerable like Mammon or Jagganoth, he’s considerably less killable than, say, Mottom or Incubus.
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Sep 20, 2018 16:40
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Solomon David is exactly what he says he is - a benevolent dictator, and the point is benevolent dictators are still really awful.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:02
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Joe Slowboat posted:Empty quotin' this again, it's really weird how people need a dictator to be malevolent or vicious in order for them to say 'yeah actually tyrants are bad.' Even Solomon Davis says he wants to give it up because its bad.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:05
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[slaps side of barista] this bad boy can decapitate so many tyrants
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Sep 20, 2018 17:05
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Allison hasn't 'won' against any demiurges. She killed Mottom's tree and was almost murdered for it. Mammon was so unconcerned that he presented to her. Incubus has a faustian bargain hanging over her head. She's more likely to be Solomon David's slave by the end of this chapter than she is to beat him in a fight.
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Sep 20, 2018 17:10
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She left Mottom a crying heap at the end of their first confrontation, despite being exsanguinated. This is a setting in which a wise frog can own someone by getting killed by them, victories can be sideways as gently caress.
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AtomikKrab posted:Even Solomon Davis says he wants to give it up because its bad. the venn diagram between close to enlightenment and not enlightened at all is
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Darth Walrus posted:I mean, yeah, Solomon is absolutely not trying to tilt the field in his favour. He openly invited his sons to Julius Caesar him, and formal matches only last until someone draws blood from him or yields (or dies, I guess). I think it’s safe to assume that while he’s not functionally invulnerable like Mammon or Jagganoth, he’s considerably less killable than, say, Mottom or Incubus. He's not trying to tilt the field because he's afraid of losing and wants to cheat, but he absolutely is tilting the field because he has the power to set the conditions of the field and has made it all about his fantasy of absolute mastery and absolute control. He might challenge his 70-year-old kids to fight him to win an argument but he doesn't have Allison's parade of fools coming at him 24/7 for a reason and that reason sure as hell isn't just they know Solomon personally is a pretty good fighter or everybody loves him so much; if the Haberdasher's Guild sends an assassin in the night he's not going "well, fair enough, here's your Key of Kings". Everything we've seen about how the Demiurges wield their power has shown that to them the Key is basically just a fancy gun. Sure, you can blow a whole city away with it, but it takes a conscious act of will, it's not passively protecting you from poo poo you don't know about, and behind it you're still just a fragile human made of tasty meat. It's the job of their empires and armies to keep them safe from assailants, because that's not a matter of just having good enough kung fu and telekinesis. "Come and take it" sounds grand as a bit of boasting but in practice it'd mean a life of constant vigilance from a knife in every shadow and in short order not having to worry about running the kingdom anymore, absolutely not just parading around among his people flexing for them all on his lonesome for centuries. That's the scene he's set because it looks cool and plays to his ego as the universally beloved absolutely powerful king of everything, but from an outside perspective it makes the lie obvious. Again, the whole thing with the colosseum crew. It's a script that'd look real loving good if Solomon was some wandering hero of legend coming along righting wrongs and rebuking cruel masters as he finds them, but the masters are his employees on his personal pet project and there is no possible universe in which he didn't personally order those wrongs in the first place. It sure as poo poo wasn't his sergeant who was responsible for banning any other more effective means to make giant vanity monuments and then commissioning one. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 20, 2018 17:36
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Solomon David is exactly what he says he is - a benevolent dictator, and the point is benevolent dictators are still really awful. Joe Slowboat posted:Empty quotin' this again, it's really weird how people need a dictator to be malevolent or vicious in order for them to say 'yeah actually tyrants are bad.' “Whoever had created humanity had left in a major design flaw. It was its tendency to bend at the knees.”
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Agreed. Legs shoulda bent backwards at the knees. Also I would like another set of thumbs next to my pinkies too, that'd be real nice.
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So I was doing a full K6BD re-read and I noticed something. In the most recent strip, we're given Soloman David's intro as...Kill Six Billion Demons posted:Solomon David ....and I'd just seen that. If you look at the big map of the Shades, you can see in the upper left corner of the third panel the following: Kill Six Billion Demons posted:Old Monk's Tower Full Sized Version In that Alli and company are hanging out in Throne, could well be that they may end up talking to the Old Monk, perhaps?
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Sep 20, 2018 22:02
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iirc somebody asked abbadon what their regard for each other was and he said mortal enemies insofar as they bother to be aware of the others existence
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I think part of the point of Ki Rata is throwing down with other people who practice Ki Rata, because Highlander.
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wiegieman posted:I think part of the point of Ki Rata is throwing down with other people who practice Ki Rata, because Highlander.
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Tollymain posted:iirc somebody asked abbadon what their regard for each other was and he said mortal enemies insofar as they bother to be aware of the others existence I imagine the Old Monk is well aware of Solomon David, given that he's one of the seven rulers of the entire universe, and has an embassy in the district right next door to the Old Monk's tower. Also, reading over that page again, I noticed the description of Dragonsgate in the upper right of the 4th panel. I love how seemingly everything in the Kill Six Billion Demons-verse has a cult of fanatical warrior monks devoted to it. 
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Have you guys ever even seen a kung fu film? SoDa wiped out the Ki Rata temple* after attaining mastery because *Ki Rata was certainly practiced by an order of monks in a temple on top of a mountain
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Magnus Manfist posted:Have you guys ever even seen a kung fu film? SoDa wiped out the Ki Rata temple* after attaining mastery because Yeah, I would bet on Allison training here. Especially since it's near where we last saw them headed - the Red City. Plus, Gog-Agog has a 'Paradise Dome' shopping center within walking distance of the Old Monk, which would be amazing. More shopping trips and awkward White Chain/Nyave dates plz Abaddon
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So not only is Ki Rata like Hamon and it's how Solomon has attained immortality. But it's also why he only has sons? For his next trick he's going to pull a pigeon out of a random woman's mouth.
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Bas d on the last couple pages, I wonder if the people of the Celestial Empire reproduce like the barbarians in Oglaf.
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How many of his sons has Solomon-David taught Ki Rata? Or would he reserve it for students who aren’t related?
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Kai Tave posted:Also I'm mad at myself that it took until I was falling asleep last night for me to get the joke that the sun literally never sets on Solomon David's empire. ...aw, man.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:He's not trying to tilt the field because he's afraid of losing and wants to cheat, but he absolutely is tilting the field because he has the power to set the conditions of the field and has made it all about his fantasy of absolute mastery and absolute control. He might challenge his 70-year-old kids to fight him to win an argument but he doesn't have Allison's parade of fools coming at him 24/7 for a reason and that reason sure as hell isn't just they know Solomon personally is a pretty good fighter or everybody loves him so much; if the Haberdasher's Guild sends an assassin in the night he's not going "well, fair enough, here's your Key of Kings". Do remember that he’s a super-strong practitioner of the greatest martial art in the universe (which can make you immortal with breathing techniques, among other things) who’s been in charge for centuries, so I think it entirely plausible that all the ambushes and assassinations died down after a few decades of knives bouncing off his steely abs and poison getting merrily chugged down with no effect, and that he instituted the tournament system as an easier, less messy, and generally more attractive option for would-be usurpers because while the attempts to murder him weren’t hurting, they were causing a disagreeable amount of collateral damage. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Sep 21, 2018 |
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Sep 21, 2018 02:01
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Better to wreck one place every year than have it happening every time he goes down to the market.
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me, paternum chad with many large adult sons: it is with a heavy heart that i announce i must continue to be your swole daddy for another kalpa you, incel barista with a chunk of cosmic power shoved into your skull: counterpoint - im drunk as gently caress and have no idea what im doing
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Sep 21, 2018 02:23
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this thread inspires the most esoteric shitposts
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the field is literally tilted because a god at the dawn of time decided he didnt like the angle of the universe and found a lever 2 billion miles long.
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Sep 21, 2018 02:55
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the sanctioned action is to get wasted at a party and bind an element of primal chaos to be your eternal bodyguard by accident
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Sep 21, 2018 03:12
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:the sanctioned action is to get wasted at a party and bind an element of primal chaos to be your eternal bodyguard by accident A typical royal Saturday night.
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Sep 21, 2018 03:50
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I love how this thread has just become 'dunk on Solomon D for ten pages'.
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gonna laugh if he ends up basically being the best of the lot and actually was morally justified
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swolomon
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Grognan posted:gonna laugh if he ends up basically being the best of the lot and actually was morally justified nope
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Grognan posted:gonna laugh if he ends up basically being the best of the lot and actually was morally justified 
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