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a dmc delorean
Jul 2, 2006

Live the dream
So despite the HCG levels going up, down, up, down, up and down, they've now gone down to the point where we're getting negative pregnancy tests.

It's sad news, but at least we've now got a final answer. Also, we might just start trying for real now.

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Hosting a dinner party is also effective.

marchantia
Nov 5, 2009

WHAT IS THIS

Angelwolf posted:

So despite the HCG levels going up, down, up, down, up and down, they've now gone down to the point where we're getting negative pregnancy tests.

It's sad news, but at least we've now got a final answer. Also, we might just start trying for real now.

I'm sorry to hear that. That sounds like a frustrating couple of weeks. Good luck in the trying if that's what y'all decide to do, and have some fun while you're at it.

Chernobyl Princess
Jul 31, 2009

It has long been an axiom of mine that the little things are infinitely the most important.

:siren:thunderdome winner:siren:

peanut posted:

Hosting a dinner party is also effective.

I've heard getting stuck in traffic without a cell phone also works

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Oh yes definitely, maybe pick up your in-laws at the airport??
And/or let everyone you know get very, very drunk so they can't drive.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

peanut posted:

Oh yes definitely, maybe pick up your in-laws at the airport??
And/or let everyone you know get very, very drunk so they can't drive.

Just drove an hour each way to the airport yesterday to pick up my parents, was convinced the mere act of me being that far away from my wife would trigger labor.

Turns out it may have just been delayed a day? We may be in ronpaulitshappening.gif territory over here.

Chernobyl Princess
Jul 31, 2009

It has long been an axiom of mine that the little things are infinitely the most important.

:siren:thunderdome winner:siren:

We've gone ahead and scheduled an induction for Wednesday, so he'll show up like at noon that day because that's how the Princess family do.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
We are 26 weeks and starting to buy things for when she’s going to be born.

What are people’s opinions on the baby “carriers” or front baby backpacks or whatever you call them. Necessary? Not necessary? Useful? Waste of money?

Just don’t want to naively dismiss them but at the same time feel like they are kind of pointless?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


They can be great, or you might find it hurts your shoulders more than just carrying babby. Our kids have 〜delicate asses〜 so I avoided carriers and too many layers in the butt zone after some serious chafing/heat rashes.

It's also very easy to get a hand-me-down so wait until the kid is born and see what offers you get.

Koivunen
Oct 7, 2011

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour
I got a Boppy front carrier for when I was watching my nephew. It was so nice to be able to go shopping or for a walk in the woods and have both arms available. Car seats are HEAVY and bulky, and you can’t take a stroller everywhere. I wore it around the house too when he was in a Velcro stage and didn’t want to be put down. My friend has a baby bjorn carrier and it feels a little more secure, especially as the kid gets bigger. I will definitely be using a carrier when our kid arrives. Could you put it on your registry?

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

I'm anticipating a carrier being essential as I'll be walking our baby to daycare along a route with stairs. I just really hope she takes to it :/

1up
Jan 4, 2005

5-up
I have a lillebaby and right now he hates it, but he's only 3 weeks old so we gots time for him to adjust. You can find all sorts of carriers in good used condition, especially if you have a babywearing group nearby.

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

We used our carrier a lot with our first and are starting to use it a lot with our second now that he's bigger. I use it more than my carseat/stroller when I'm out with him. Its easier for me to wear him while I grocery shop rather than take up the cart with his carseat. Its also great when he gets fussy around the house and I have stuff to do. My husband wears him when we go on walks for extra resistance.

We tried a bunch with our first and ended up using this jeep branded one. I have no idea where we got it from but it works well for us. I'm facebook friends with this person on facebook who's really into "baby wearing" to the point its her identity because she's just a rebel going against society's norm. Its bizzare.

Edit: personally it doesn't bother my shoulders, but my mid back gets super tired.

Hi_Bears
Mar 6, 2012

I love babywearing and have a variety of carriers. For infants I prefer a stretchy wrap like the Solly Baby wrap. For short carries/at home I like ring slings, and for longer outings I like the Tula. Babywearing is a lifesaver if your kid won’t nap except on you. It was also great for walks on bumpy trails that were not stroller friendly. I anticipate babywearing new baby a lot so I can have hands free to chase after my toddler.

If you’re only going to get one carrier then I think a structured carrier like the Tula/Ergo/Lillebaby will be the most versatile.

femcastra
Apr 25, 2008

If you want him,
come and knit him!
Seconding the love for the Tula carrier. I got the free to grow model which is good for newborn to 2 years. I use it every time I go grocery shopping and when we go on walks.

When she was really small, we had renovations going on and it was never quiet at home so I wore her for all her naps until they finished.

Dr. Chaco
Mar 30, 2005
If you aren't sure you want to spend a ton on a carrier, my husband loves his Infantino Sash mei tai. It has straps that tie instead of buckles and it's super simple and easy to use for front or back carries, and it was like $25. I think my woven wrap is more comfortable and versatile but the learning curve is quite a bit steeper (and the cost would be potentially a lot more if I hadn't made it myself).

cailleask
May 6, 2007





femcastra posted:

Seconding the love for the Tula carrier. I got the free to grow model which is good for newborn to 2 years. I use it every time I go grocery shopping and when we go on walks.

When she was really small, we had renovations going on and it was never quiet at home so I wore her for all her naps until they finished.

Same- I used the hell out of the Tula Free To Grow, from basically 1 month on. I have a carrier in each car, because I've grown to vastly prefer them over the stroller. I usually go out with a spare diaper, wipes, onesie and pants stuffed into my purse and the baby in the carrier. Lean and agile!

Beware though, your body is still recovering in the first couple months PP and it can be really easy to overdo it with baby in the carrier and walking around a lot.

2DEG
Apr 13, 2011

If I hear the words "luck dragon" one more time, so fucking help me...
Seconding getting carriers used. I got both a K'Tan and an Ergo 360 used, and a new K'Tan for my husband, and we've been mostly using the K'Tans for out-and-about stuff. Unfortunately, the K'Tan is becoming less convenient for me because the little dude likes to push himself off my chest to look around, but doesn't have full head/neck control yet, so I end up having to hold his head with one hand, which kind of eliminates the whole free hands thing. Lately I've been taking him out in the Ergo, which doesn't let him spaz out as much. The only downside I've found is that it's hot as balls for both of us regardless of which carrier we use (we're in NC and it had been 1000% humidity for months). I even got the K'Tan active, which in theory is better ventilated, but we still end up all sweaty even when it's a relatively cool 75.

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

2DEG posted:

a new K'Tan for my husband

Finally! The world been waiting for adult size carriers for far too long

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

Found the one we use: https://www.amazon.com/Jeep-2-in-1-Baby-Carrier/dp/B000B74DZ0

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)
Second-hand, but twins plus terrible hyperemesis seems distinctly unpleasant.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
Well, after weeks of off and on prodromal labor, two straight days of consistent but still prodromal contractions, 24 hours of active labor, capped off by just over 2 hours of pushing, my wife gave birth to a healthy, beautiful baby girl. Mom is exhausted but doing well. Thank God for epidurals, she had absorbed more than enough punishment by the time active labor rolled around.

I've mostly been lurking in this thread, but you've given me some good advice from time to time. So, thanks all, and best of luck with your own little ones.

Koivunen
Oct 7, 2011

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour
Congrats on your baby girl!!


I’m 10w5d and for the first time I can feel my fundus! I thought I could sort of feel it this past week but today it’s like it suddenly popped up and it’s right there at the surface, it’s surreal. My husband doesn’t want to feel it because he is afraid it’s too delicate, he says maybe he’ll touch it next week.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
uh my 27 weeks pregnant SIL was just flown by chopper to a big city hospital with blood sugar through the roof, suspect gestational diabetes. She is(was?) skinny, fairly active and eats very healthy. wtf

superbelch
Dec 9, 2003
Making baby jesus cry since 1984.

Ranter posted:

uh my 27 weeks pregnant SIL was just flown by chopper to a big city hospital with blood sugar through the roof, suspect gestational diabetes. She is(was?) skinny, fairly active and eats very healthy. wtf

Pregnancy causes an increase in insulin resistance, and gestational diabetes is a result in some patients. Things like exercise, diet, and maintaining a healthy weight can decrease the risk but not completely eliminate it. If she is being flown to a large center then I wonder if she has diabetic ketoacidosis.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
It's 3am there so updates from mum have stopped, so I guess no news is good news. Last I heard they were trying a bunch of things to get the blood sugar down. It wasn't coming down at the regional hospital with whatever treatments they were using there hence flown to a bigger hospital.

baquerd
Jul 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Ranter posted:

It's 3am there so updates from mum have stopped, so I guess no news is good news. Last I heard they were trying a bunch of things to get the blood sugar down. It wasn't coming down at the regional hospital with whatever treatments they were using there hence flown to a bigger hospital.

Are there times when insulin wouldn't actually treat high blood sugar, or is it not an option with pregnancy?

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

baquerd posted:

Are there times when insulin wouldn't actually treat high blood sugar, or is it not an option with pregnancy?

I can't speak specifically to what's going on with the poster's SIL but pregnant women take insulin all the time for diabetes, regardless of the type. I'm not sure of the reasons for being unable to bring it down though as insulin should be available at any hospital and should do the trick. Insulin drips are the go-to even when your blood sugar is crazy high (like >500). If its really high its possible she had preexisting diabetes instead of gestational diabetes and just didn't know it yet. The A1C will answer that eventually.

Koivunen
Oct 7, 2011

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour
Regional hospitals often don’t have the resources or protocols to treat DKA, so a transfer to a “higher level of care” (bigger hospital) is necessary. They may have given her some insulin in small amounts through her IV, but DKA requires a constant infusion of insulin through an IV (an insulin drip). There are set protocols for this, the hospital needs to have a supply of IV insulin, and it requires close monitoring of blood sugar and other labs, which is probably why they transferred her.

I’m a nurse and we get DKA transfers from smaller hospitals all the time. It sucks that she will be dealing with gestational diabetes, but once the DKA gets resolved it is manageable. Often times people have no idea they have diabetes (gestational or otherwise) until they end up in DKA.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
OK so it's 8:20am there now. Spoke to brother, yeah the regional hospital gave her insulin but their diabetes specialist said there was something unusual (brother said he didn't fully understand the jargon) and transferred her to the ICU at the bigger hospital just in case. She was in said ICU overnight and blood sugar had started to come down just before he left to get a few hours sleep at a mates place, so it's de-escalated it sounds like but they still don't know the real root cause. Thanks all. edit: yeah I think she was in ketoacidosis, the thing you get when you eat coffee mugs full of bacon fat ;)

Bald Stalin fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 3, 2018

baquerd
Jul 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Ranter posted:

OK so it's 8:20am there now. Spoke to brother, yeah the regional hospital gave her insulin but their diabetes specialist said there was something unusual (brother said he didn't fully understand the jargon) and transferred her to the ICU at the bigger hospital just in case. She was in said ICU overnight and blood sugar had started to come down just before he left to get a few hours sleep at a mates place, so it's de-escalated it sounds like but they still don't know the real root cause. Thanks all. edit: yeah I think she was in ketoacidosis, the thing you get when you eat coffee mugs full of bacon fat ;)

Glad she's coming through. There is a big difference between very low-carb ketosis and actual ketoacidosis though: https://www.healthline.com/health/ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
It was a joke/reference to the keto diet thread on SA years ago, when it was constantly being trolled with "OMG KETO IS BAD THAT'S WHAT DIABETICS GET!" then someone posted a picture of their 'meal' which was a coffee mug with congealed bacon fat. Then the thread got shut down because helldump or FYAD kept trolling it.

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.
Monday I start going in for heart rate monitoring because amniotic fluid is now past the upper limits of normal. She said she's definitely going to induce me so we have a controlled environment. We are going to talk about what day that will be depending on heart rate checks, cervix check on Thursday, and another ultrasound next Thursday to measure fluid again. Feeling pretty nervous now, and it's not easy trying to avoid stressing over it. :(

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum
We've got a fairly chill 10 week old baby. When he's about 13 weeks we'll be going on a 2 hour flight, then 2 11-hour-each flights, all in a row, over a total of about 27 hours.

Any advice for this hellish flight marathon? Who here has flown with babies on planes? Any and all advice welcome. Notes: we don't do bottle feeding or anything, just breastfeeding. He sleeps pretty well. We didn't get him a seat, we paid 10% of a seat to have him on our laps, and 'if we're lucky we can get the one bassinet on the plane and put the bassinet in front of us' apparently. It seems that the first people to ask for it, get it.

cailleask
May 6, 2007





redreader posted:

We've got a fairly chill 10 week old baby. When he's about 13 weeks we'll be going on a 2 hour flight, then 2 11-hour-each flights, all in a row, over a total of about 27 hours.

Any advice for this hellish flight marathon? Who here has flown with babies on planes? Any and all advice welcome. Notes: we don't do bottle feeding or anything, just breastfeeding. He sleeps pretty well. We didn't get him a seat, we paid 10% of a seat to have him on our laps, and 'if we're lucky we can get the one bassinet on the plane and put the bassinet in front of us' apparently. It seems that the first people to ask for it, get it.

I've flown a lot with babies, starting at around 12 weeks. You're going to be nursing that kid a LOT, so bring whatever is needed to make that work. Bottles for water for mom. Spitup cloths. A bunch of diapers and a couple changes of clothes for blowouts.

Basically: the second baby starts being fussy, put a nipple in her mouth. Ideally the noise will put her back to sleep. At that age I would wear a ring sling to put them in and out of, so my arms and wrists could have a break.

ETA- at that age they're really not bad so long as you aggressively give them the nipple. My longest fight was ~7 hours with a three month old, but I feel like it probably applies?

kbdragon
Jun 23, 2012

redreader posted:

We've got a fairly chill 10 week old baby. When he's about 13 weeks we'll be going on a 2 hour flight, then 2 11-hour-each flights, all in a row, over a total of about 27 hours.

Any advice for this hellish flight marathon? Who here has flown with babies on planes? Any and all advice welcome.

I’ve flown with tiny ones, it’s pretty doable. Seconding the ring sling to give your arms a break - just be aware they won’t let you have him in the carrier during takeoff and landing :shrug:

Staying hydrated is key because the boob is the best soother for ear pain. Also bring a pacifier (and a couple extra for when they roll under the seat), same deal if he’s not actually hungry.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

redreader posted:

We've got a fairly chill 10 week old baby. When he's about 13 weeks we'll be going on a 2 hour flight, then 2 11-hour-each flights, all in a row, over a total of about 27 hours.

Any advice for this hellish flight marathon? Who here has flown with babies on planes? Any and all advice welcome. Notes: we don't do bottle feeding or anything, just breastfeeding. He sleeps pretty well. We didn't get him a seat, we paid 10% of a seat to have him on our laps, and 'if we're lucky we can get the one bassinet on the plane and put the bassinet in front of us' apparently. It seems that the first people to ask for it, get it.

Seconding what others have said, breastfeeding is going to be your best tool for keeping baby happy. Definitely feed before/during takeoff and landing to help with the pressure changes. Bring some sort of baby carrier to save your arms in case you can't get that bassinet. I think a ring sling or a wrap would be better because its pretty easy to breastfeed in those types of carriers and they don't take up a lot of space. Bring more changes of clothes and diapers than you usually would, sometimes the experience of flying plays havoc on little one's GI tracts. If there's going to be a blowout, chances are it'll happen on a plane, far far away from any bathtub.

Don't forget that flying dehydrates you, which goes for both mom and baby. Baby may be wanting to feed more frequently so mom will need to keep up in terms of supply. Keep her hydrated, drink a lot of water. An easy gauge is how often she pees, if she hasn't had to go for a few hours its probably time to drink some more. Bring lactation snacks to keep her calories up. Stay away from really salty foods though because that can increase dehydration. The meals alone probably wont be enough nutrition for a breastfeeding mom so if she likes lactation cookies or anything like that, bring a ton! Stop for ice cream during your layovers if she likes it, it's a high calorie food with decent protein and its pretty easy to get your hands on regardless of country.

In terms of getting the only bassinet, make sure you are seated at a bulkhead. That's the only place for them to go so if you're sitting somewhere else you wont get that bassinet. If you need to alter your seats, I'd call and ask at this point and make sure to mention your little guy. Definitely call the night before the flight and inquire about the bassinet in case they have the ability to assign it to you at that point. If not, get there early! Check in early, get to the gate early, make sure to be ready to board when they ask for people who need a little more time at the beginning. Make sure to ask every airline employee you come into contact with, at check in, the gate, and when boarding, if you can get your hands on that bassinet. Most likely if you ask first and have the youngest infant flying, it will be yours.

Here's a little more info about plane bassinets: https://www.ourglobetrotters.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-airline-baby-bassinets/

GoreJess
Aug 4, 2004

pretty in pink
In addition to extra clothes for baby, make sure each of the adults have an extra shirt. If baby has a massive blowout or spit up episode chances are its going all over you too.

Sarah
Apr 4, 2005

I'm watching you.
You can also bring additional bottled breast milk with you through TSA. And cold packs to keep it fresh. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/special-procedures/traveling-children#quickset-traveling_with_children_1

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I reserved a bassinette months in advance. Call customer service asap.

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