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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

comrades get all bummed out but the paris commune lasted for what? a week? forty-six years later there was the bolshevik revolution and that lasted 74 years. we are 27 years past the collapse of the soviet union.

it's gonna happen again y'all

The East Will Rise Again

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm watching The Americans and it's really funny how as brutal as the KGB characters get, outside of the defector from the first episode and sometimes their mysterious orders from Moscow, the normally-infamous KGB is always the good guys

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Larry Parrish posted:

I'm watching The Americans and it's really funny how as brutal as the KGB characters get, outside of the defector from the first episode and sometimes their mysterious orders from Moscow, the normally-infamous KGB is always the good guys

to me it's hard to pin down the moral of the Americans other than people being twisted into doing evil things for one's country or ideology, both the FBI and KGB, and destroying themselves and their families in the process, so a pretty liberal individualist message imo. Of course we have the hindsight that everything they're doing is for nought, except their final act which saves gorby and ironically dooms the Soviets.

An insanely good show tho. Probably the best of the decade imo

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
In the ongoing adventures of Turing polices miserable life

https://twitter.com/turing_police/status/1043366604526874624?s=19

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Jose posted:

In the ongoing adventures of Turing polices miserable life

https://twitter.com/turing_police/status/1043366604526874624?s=19

love how this is the only tankie that anyone pays attention to

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

to me it's hard to pin down the moral of the Americans other than people being twisted into doing evil things for one's country or ideology, both the FBI and KGB, and destroying themselves and their families in the process, so a pretty liberal individualist message imo. Of course we have the hindsight that everything they're doing is for nought, except their final act which saves gorby and ironically dooms the Soviets.

An insanely good show tho. Probably the best of the decade imo

I'm only like 5 episodes in but I can't figure out if the writers were aware that the USSR was like 30 years ahead of the US on women's rights at the time or it's just me reading into how the mom spy acts with her daughter too much. Disappointing but unsurprising that it doesn't go total alt history though. Liberals are terrified to imagine after all.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


ah poo poo sorry i guess i spoiled it a bit, thought you meant rewatching or w/e

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Anyone else wish they lived in the world where the race for unrealistic ballistic missile shields and liberalized election laws destroyed NATO and the US instead of the Warsaw Pact.

And don't feel bad about the spoiler lol. Isn't the most recent season like 2 years old

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

nah it just ended in spring

i gave up during the last two seasons, it never seemed like anything happened and i felt really bad for rhys' dupe wife

i liked the hippie pastor a lot

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

comrades get all bummed out but the paris commune lasted for what? a week? forty-six years later there was the bolshevik revolution and that lasted 74 years. we are 27 years past the collapse of the soviet union.

it's gonna happen again y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et-s_GnUNBw

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The best scenes in The Americans are when they go into the woods to receive orders and send reports through the numbers stations.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

comrades get all bummed out but the paris commune lasted for what? a week? forty-six years later there was the bolshevik revolution and that lasted 74 years. we are 27 years past the collapse of the soviet union.

it's gonna happen again y'all

this is good poo poo

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Jose posted:

In the ongoing adventures of Turing polices miserable life

https://twitter.com/turing_police/status/1043366604526874624?s=19

Oh poo poo he's becoming a swamp maoist

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010

Atrocious Joe posted:

this is good poo poo

of course it happened again. we have china now.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Don't forget about Norway!

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Communism is shitposting and nothing else. The more i shitpost, the communister it is.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
cuba

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
My posts are the shittest! But worry not comrades, I intend to share them with you

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
They’re bad but not the worst

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Cool communist nations throughout history

Incan Empire

Alaska

EBDSA

Our house in the middle of the street

lf

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

THS posted:

love how this is the only tankie that anyone pays attention to

well, he is the one that has a life

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dreddout posted:

Cool communist nations throughout history

Incan Empire

Alaska

EBDSA

Our house in the middle of the street

lf
Gay Texas

it was short-lived. but they say the star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
https://twitter.com/Trillburne/status/1043611960732999680

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Impermanent posted:

of course it happened again. we have china now.

Communist movements taking power in china, vietnam, laos, and north korea were great leaps forward for humanity and their perseverance is inspiring. When it comes to socialists in imperialist countries, i think the commune and 1917 are still what many of them looks towards for inspiration though. Which does make sense as the revolutions in colonized countries that have occurred since then faced different obstacles.

Since China's leadership seems to have neither the ability or inclination to enforce JDPON, we're going to have to have a revolution in the imperialist core if we want to kill imperialism

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Atrocious Joe posted:

Communist movements taking power in china, vietnam, laos, and north korea were great leaps forward for humanity and their perseverance is inspiring. When it comes to socialists in imperialist countries, i think the commune and 1917 are still what many of them looks towards for inspiration though. Which does make sense as the revolutions in colonized countries that have occurred since then faced different obstacles.

Since China's leadership seems to have neither the ability or inclination to enforce JDPON, we're going to have to have a revolution in the imperialist core if we want to kill imperialism

The imperialist core is the United States.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The imperialist core is the United States.

I think that was his point

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The imperialist core is the United States.

I call it the United $nakes

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Dreddout posted:

I call it the United $nakes

of AmeriKKKa

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
Does anyone have something concrete on how exactly the economy works in Rojava? I'm curious how it's socialist apart from rhetoric and equal rights for women.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
I don't think they have much of an economy what with the civil war and all

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Dreddout posted:

I don't think they have much of an economy what with the civil war and all

yeah I understand that but if people are eating food besides what they grow for themselves, they have some kind of economy.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
These kinds of things dont really get set up until the fighting winds down and the revolutionaries can consolidate their gains.

This is just as much true for the Kurds and Bolsheviks as it was for bourgeois revolutionaries.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Well if you’re one of those ppl that think “government spending” is socialism then yea I guess drawing paychecks from the CIA to partition a counter-hegemonic sovereign state is socialism

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

AnEdgelord posted:

These kinds of things dont really get set up until the fighting winds down and the revolutionaries can consolidate their gains.

This is just as much true for the Kurds and Bolsheviks as it was for bourgeois revolutionaries.

if Rojava (important distinction since Iraqi Kurdistan is bourgeois conservative) has war communism I'm more than happy to hear about that.

here's what google has: https://mesopotamia.coop/the-economy-of-rojava/

was just curious if someone knew about something on it better and harder to find

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1043658565217603584?s=19

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Matt embracing his destiny and becoming a lanyard

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
reshaping reality and biting on right wing propaganda to make Norway socialism.

Matt Bruenig is a cranky, dickish, and wrong loser.

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
"Socialism isn't about being antagonistic to capital"

lmao

he's gone full Bruenig tonight

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Shat Poonig

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Slanderer
May 6, 2007
matt bruenig is one of the most powerful trolls in the business. few recognize this.

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