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Kemper Boyd posted:Swedefacts: During the 17th century, foreigners in Sweden noted that the Swedes were absolutely obsessed with cutting down forest, even when there was no real reason to do so. Well looking at the typical Swedish landscape today, they weren't very good at it 
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Guildencrantz posted:Well looking at the typical Swedish landscape today, they weren't very good at it almost all woodland in sweden is managed forestry; that way we can cut it down repeatedly and in an orderly fashion.
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Sep 21, 2018 22:07
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Ras Het posted:Paradoxically, one good thing about guns is that it allows us to maintain peace with man eating animals so we don't feel compelled to totally destroy them and their habitat Tigers, lions and leopards are all endangered species. In my country the grey wolf is endangered and the lynx almost went extinct in the thirties.
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Sep 22, 2018 10:33
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Tunicate posted:I remember hearing in some pop history book that few Native Americans thought that the Europeans had come because they ran out of wood in their homeland, and the author noted that they weren't too far off One german village burned so many "witches" that they ran out of firewood.
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Sep 22, 2018 10:34
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Alhazred posted:Tigers, lions and leopards are all endangered species. In my country the grey wolf is endangered and the lynx almost went extinct in the thirties. Europe had lions once. I believe we think they went extinct in Greece around the time of Caesar’s birth.
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Sep 22, 2018 13:45
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Alhazred posted:Tigers, lions and leopards are all endangered species. In my country the grey wolf is endangered and the lynx almost went extinct in the thirties. I'm well aware of that, but say in Europe we're at a point where we fear predators out of baseless hysteria and/or economic considerations and not because the forest is a legitimately terrifying place. Wolves are expanding their range now because of reforestation
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Sep 22, 2018 14:04
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Ras Het posted:I'm well aware of that, but say in Europe we're at a point where we fear predators out of baseless hysteria and/or economic considerations and not because the forest is a legitimately terrifying place. quote:Wolves are expanding their range now because of reforestation
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Sep 22, 2018 15:37
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Alhazred posted:I mean, the predators are being shot regardless of the motivation behind it. Humanity has shown no interest in maintaining peace with the large predators. In most of the world humanity made a graveyard and called it peace. Though honestly I have a hard time blaming them. back before tigers were extirpated from Korea they averaged something like 30+ human kills a year. When the danger is that high it also forces large scale behavioral modifications. While only a small number of people die, a lot more people who wanted to go into the woods to collect mushrooms or w/e, didn't, due to the risk. In ecology these behavioral changes are known as the "landscape of fear" and even relatively low rates of predation can produce significant ecological cascades. I'm not sure how significant guns really are in maintaining current good human-big predator relations but in much of the world extermination remains the prevailing management objective.
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Sep 22, 2018 20:37
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I’m not hunting a Tiger with a spear ok?
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Sep 22, 2018 21:08
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LingcodKilla posted:I’m not hunting a Tiger with a spear ok? How are you ever going to prove your manliness with an attitude like that???
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Sep 22, 2018 21:10
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PT6A posted:How are you ever going to prove your manliness with an attitude like that??? By killing (hypothetical) you. Sheesh. Humans don’t come with 5 of six ends pointy as gently caress.
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Sep 22, 2018 21:12
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Imo make trophy hunting require you to use a spear or sword. That aY you have something to be proud about.
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Sep 22, 2018 21:57
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Telsa Cola posted:Imo make trophy hunting require you to use a spear or sword. That aY you have something to be proud about. Or a bow. And none of that fancy compound poo poo, and no crossbows either!
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Sep 22, 2018 23:22
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If you can't wrestle an apex predator like a kodiac bear with your bare hands, you're just a beta really
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Sep 23, 2018 01:03
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Even if you win you need a witness. Who then proceeds to brain you with a rock and take the credit.
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Sep 23, 2018 01:05
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If you're hunting a Tiger I'm happy for you to use whatever pre-gunpowder weapon you want. You'll still probably have to shadow it until it breaks down
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Sep 23, 2018 01:14
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You could kill a Tiger with a bucket of paint if it doesn’t have its escort.
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THis conversation inspired me to go looking for the earliest artistic depiction of a tiger. I didn't end up finding an answer for the earliest, but apparently there's a bunch of stone age rock art I didn't know about?  The website didn't provide specific dates, it just said this is estimated to be neolithic. I'm surprised I've never seen ancient Asian rock art before, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised it exists since it is found on every other continent.
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Sep 23, 2018 07:24
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Its likely one of those things where there are lots of articles out there about it but they are all not translated to english.
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Sep 23, 2018 13:44
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Do you think the elves who hung out with humans were just sad all the time? Or did they get a new one as soon as the old one died?
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Sep 23, 2018 16:06
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Korea has the best tiger art. I have no idea what's going on here either but I love it.
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Grand Fromage posted:Korea has the best tiger art. Its obviously 
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Sep 23, 2018 16:29
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As someone who loves Louis Wain, I enjoy that tiger art quite a lot.
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Grand Fromage posted:Korea has the best tiger art. Lower left looks like a good choice for a new, classy stupid newbie av
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Arglebargle III posted:Do you think the elves who hung out with humans were just sad all the time? Or did they get a new one as soon as the old one died? Weird thread to ask this in (seems like it would fit better in the Tolkien thread in Book Barn, just for example's sake) but presumably they were sad for a few seasons then went to the PetSmart and got another one.
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Alhazred posted:Tigers, lions and leopards are all endangered species. In my country the grey wolf is endangered and the lynx almost went extinct in the thirties. The wolf was already a stretch but come on, man-eating lynx???
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Libluini posted:The wolf was already a stretch but come on, man-eating lynx??? They kill the stuff you eat like sheep n goats.
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Libluini posted:The wolf was already a stretch but come on, man-eating lynx??? Eat? No. Kill? Yes, potentially, if they feel you are a threat.
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my dad posted:Eat? No. Kill? Yes, potentially, if they feel you are a threat. I've seen lynx getting fed in a wildlife-station. I'd rate them on the same level as wild dogs. Those can be dangerous, too. Anyway, the origin-post for this derail talked about man-eating animals only
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Grand Fromage posted:Korea has the best tiger art. You ain't kidding, here is a tiger chilling under a tree getting high with a rabbit 
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Sep 23, 2018 18:37
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Those tigers own
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Grand Fromage posted:Korea has the best tiger art. I noticed second from top left is actually a leopard, the last of which were exterminated from South Korea in 1969. Weird to think about how lions and tigers and elephants and leopards and bison and aurochs could all be found within the Roman Empire.
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Squalid posted:
It's even weirder to think about that mammoths still existed when the pyramids in Giza were being built.
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Squalid posted:I noticed second from top left is actually a leopard, the last of which were exterminated from South Korea in 1969. There were still lions in Greece until about 100 AD. That's also kind of weird.
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One bowhead whale that were captured in eighties had been 43 years old when the french revolution happened.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Weird thread to ask this in (seems like it would fit better in the Tolkien thread in Book Barn, just for example's sake) but presumably they were sad for a few seasons then went to the PetSmart and got another one. How is this not an ancient history question?
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Arglebargle III posted:How is this not an ancient history question? Because the elves are immortal and still with us in the present, natch.
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FAUXTON posted:You ain't kidding, here is a tiger chilling under a tree getting high with a rabbit This one is my favorite, I have a print of it.
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