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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Some of the kids are alright

https://twitter.com/BillyArmagh/status/1043213319207702528

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tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
THE SPEECH SUPPRESSOR


Remember: it's "antisemitic" to protest genocide as long as the targets are brown.

infernal machines posted:

I love this in Toronto, people ask if I own my home and my response is always "what am I, a loving millionaire?"

A lot of people who do own their homes aren't actually millionaires, but they don't know that yet because they haven't tried to sell.

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow

Let them eat cake, Monsieur Couillard? :thunk:

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007





Literally the only reason I have hope for the future is young people like this. Kill all olds to speed this up imo

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


CLAM DOWN posted:

Literally the only reason I have hope for the future is young people like this. Kill all olds to speed this up imo

Don't worry. 4 years of Ford/Scheer and they'll be empty shells of human beings with no hope whatsoever, just like us :unsmith:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
If Dougie picks up a violent drug habit, can he be considered unfit for office and tossed out?

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

CLAM DOWN posted:

Literally the only reason I have hope for the future is young people like this. Kill all olds to speed this up imo

They too will learn the futility of protesting against a majority government elected with a proportional minority.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Arcsquad12 posted:

If Dougie picks up a violent drug habit, can he be considered unfit for office and tossed out?

He'd have to lose the confidence of his caucus, so effectively no.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Arcsquad12 posted:

If Dougie picks up a violent drug habit, can he be considered unfit for office and tossed out?

lmfao picks up

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009
The only solution is to partition the country and we all move according to party affiliation. We could take literal left and right sides of the country.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Testikles posted:

The only solution is to partition the country and we all move according to party affiliation. We could take literal left and right sides of the country.

Northern Ontario is beautiful if you remove the people and I happen to actually enjoy winter despite all my bitching so I think this is a terrible idea. :colbert:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Testikles posted:

The only solution is to partition the country and we all move according to party affiliation. We could take literal left and right sides of the country.

:goonsay: akshually, with a federally administered UBI, the population would eventually sort itself out, as people wouldn't have to move to undesirable areas in order to afford food and housing.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

Testikles posted:

The only solution is to partition the country and we all move according to party affiliation. We could take literal left and right sides of the country.

As long as the left get B.C. and the right get everything west of it I guess.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Aparrently a tornado destroyed a bunch of gaudy mcmansions outside of Ottawa.

Ottawa Tornado for PM 2019. Finally a platform i can get behind.

ChairMaster
Aug 22, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Evis posted:

As long as the left get B.C. and the right get everything west of it I guess.

That's uh, kinda what we have already.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
If you think BC is left wing, I just don’t know what to tell you.

Outside the island and metro Vancouver bc is basically Alberta without pretending their getting their oil job back soon.

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ocrumsprug posted:

If you think BC is left wing, I just don’t know what to tell you.

Outside the island and metro Vancouver bc is basically Alberta without pretending their getting their oil job back soon.

When you ignore 80% of the people,

ChairMaster
Aug 22, 2009

by R. Guyovich
I mean officially, like as far as our provincial government goes. Not that they're like that far left or anything it's just the closest this country has. I grew up with the dumb BC interior rednecks and they're at least a bit less racist than the dumb Albertan rednecks I've known.

James Baud posted:

When you ignore 80% of the people,

People think that the big blue spots on the map represent more of the population, rather than just more mostly empty space.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




ocrumsprug posted:

If you think BC is left wing, I just don’t know what to tell you.

Outside the island and metro Vancouver bc is basically Alberta without pretending their getting their oil job back soon.

That's like a fraction of this province's population though. Everyone is concentrated in the southwest corner.

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
But seriously, hippy-dippy Vancouver of the 70s to mid-90s is pretty much dead and buried. There are a few hold outs in the west end and Kitsilano but not many.

ChairMaster
Aug 22, 2009

by R. Guyovich
I'm too young to remember that anyways, there's never been an actual left-wing presence in this country as long as I've been aware of politics. The best you can expect of this country are essentially the same pathetic centre-right gutless dipshits represented by the establishment Democrats south of the border. PT6A-style "love me I'm a Liberal" types are what you get in the southern corner of the province primarily.

It's better than everything else in this pathetic country but that certainly doesn't make it very good.

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

Is it too late to make a coordinated effort and take over the NDP? On Facebook the “Socialist Caucus NDP” seems sadly small. I think I remember people talking about well intentioned friends taking on the NDP party establishment and dropping out of politics after a while due to the careerist nature of top NDP brass.

So what are our best chances to see a real left alternative? reforming the NDP or going Maxime Bernier and creating a new one?

The RECAPITATOR
May 12, 2006

Cursed to like terrible teams.

Powershift posted:

Aparrently a tornado destroyed a bunch of gaudy mcmansions outside of Ottawa.

Ottawa Tornado for PM 2019. Finally a platform i can get behind.

Also some not quite McMansions in Hull (lots of appartment buildings in a poorer neighborhood--Jumonville).

It's pretty brutal, I think it's about 1,000 people without homes at the moment.

Arabian Jesus
Feb 15, 2008

We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith

We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day

https://twitter.com/hydroottawa/status/1043550496143728640


Completely dark in Centretown but downtown is up and running. Stay safe Ottawa goons, if you're in need of anything critical let me know and I'll try to help


https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/whats-open-and-closed-during-the-power-outage-in-the-ottawa-area

quote:

Here’s what is open and closed:

OC Transpo is running as normal, but heavy traffic may cause delays.
The Ottawa Redblacks game is still scheduled as planned at TD Place. Start time is 4 p.m.
Power has been restored at the Ottawa airport. Retail and food services are slowly getting back to normal.
The O-Train is not running and has been replaced by bus Route 2
The Army Run will proceed. Race kit pick-up resumes today from 9 a.m to 6 p.m. at Ottawa City Hall. Shirt pick-up moved to Cartier Square Drill Hall, beside city hall.
Gatineau Park parkways and trails are closed until further notice.
Library branches across Ottawa are closed. A full list can be found here.
Here is a list of what we know is open in the Ottawa area. Post in the comments if you come across any place open in your area.
Bayshore Shopping Centre
Real Canadian Superstore in Westboro
Causeway at 22 O’Meara St. in Hintonburg has pastries, cheeses, fruit, etc.
Drummond’s gas station on Bronson
The Home Depot at 1900 Baseline
Petro-Canada, Esso gas stations on Terry Fox and Campeau in Kanata Lakes
Starbucks at the Petro-Canada station on Terry Fox in Kanata Lakes
Loblaws at Centrum in Kanata Lakes
Stores at Signature Centre at Campeau & Terry Fox
Sobeys on Metcalfe Street
Loblaws at Isabella
McDonald’s on Bronson Avenue serving hundreds, employees from other McDonald’s called in
Billings Bridge Shopping Centre
Hunting store Cabela’s at 3065 Palladium Dr. is open and selling generators, propane, matches, water tanks, water containers, dried food and more
Farm Boy in Trainyards
Costco on 1900 Cyrville Rd. in Gloucester
Shelters

West Carleton Secondary School at 3086 Dunrobin Rd. is open and available for food, shelter, water, showers, with city staff and first responders.
In the Hunt Club-Riverside area, there’s an emergency reception area at the Canterbury Recreation Complex at 2185 Arch St.
The city is working on establishing a welcome centre in Knoxdale-Merivale ward.
Residents in River Ward can access service, food and water at the Hunt Club Riverside Community Centre at 3320 Paul Anka Dr.
A shelter in Gatineau has been set up at CEGEP de l’Outaouais Gabrielle Roy campus on 333 Boulevard de la Cité-des-Jeunes

folytopo
Nov 5, 2013

ARACHTION posted:

Is it too late to make a coordinated effort and take over the NDP? On Facebook the “Socialist Caucus NDP” seems sadly small. I think I remember people talking about well intentioned friends taking on the NDP party establishment and dropping out of politics after a while due to the careerist nature of top NDP brass.

So what are our best chances to see a real left alternative? reforming the NDP or going Maxime Bernier and creating a new one?

The federal NDP socialist caucus are pretty much the opposition politicians that Putin keeps around because they discredit the cause. I would tend to think that on the federal level the only real change can happen in leadership elections. That is why I voted for a 2 year leadership race after ousting Mulcair. It would have been enough time for a party outsider to organize. Unfortunately, that did not happen. I think I agree with Helsing's critique to some extent that you have to be organized outside the NDP to successfully take it over. Barring that, being involved enough locally that you can actually bring 10 or more people to a nomination contest is pretty important. Given that the NDP has disqualified candidates for left wing positions, your ability to nominate truly radical people is limited.

However, nominating and running lefty people can still help. There are a bunch of people in staff or as people that are currently in party politics that are hoping to do better but their political instincts were all honed pre 2016. Joel Harden type victories can convert these people into being willing to support better campaigns.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
given the destruction in Ottawa and surroundings, surprised & glad no one was killed.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.
Yeah, it's amazing. I'm trying to wrap my head around 150 knot / 270 kph winds. Outside of concrete bunkers how the hell do you build for that?

Hoping they get the pieces back together soon.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
A house built out of ICF would theoretically hold up to a tornado but you'd still lose your roof and it'd probably blow out your windows. The upfront costs are higher and for an entire house it'd take probably close to 2 decades to break even on the lower costs to heat and cool the building.

Considering climate change is making extreme heat and cold events more frequent, the break even point may come sooner though.

But good luck coming up with the scratch to cover the initial build cost.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
Just spent two hours in an an Ontario DriveTest to try to get a five minute license exchange done. Eventually I learned that 'that system was down today'. When I asked why they didn't just put a sign up at the ticket stations for that they told me that they 'weren't allowed' so I guess the policy is to ineffectually yell it out once every hour or ywo instead. Then they told me a list of alternative centers to go to....except this is the only location in KW and I don't have a loving car, so hearing a list of other cities ain't exactly too helpful.

This is also the second time I made a run at it. The first time I showed up 2 hours before closing and was told that they wouldn't have time to get to me.

What the gently caress is up with DMV's in this province? Apparently KW is notoriously bad but they're pretty bad everywhere. I know no one likes DMVs anywhere but this is 10x worse than anything I saw in Alberta.

Why does Ontario have a hard on for selling public services to private monopoly contracts? E.g. DMZ's, the beer store, hydro one. Either keep it public and do it right or go fully private and let some variety in, this half assed one company providing insanely terrible service on a cushy contract with fines for bad service that aren't ever loving applied is a loving joke.

Tsyni
Sep 1, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

CRISPYBABY posted:

Just spent two hours in an an Ontario DriveTest to try to get a five minute license exchange done. Eventually I learned that 'that system was down today'. When I asked why they didn't just put a sign up at the ticket stations for that they told me that they 'weren't allowed' so I guess the policy is to ineffectually yell it out once every hour or ywo instead. Then they told me a list of alternative centers to go to....except this is the only location in KW and I don't have a loving car, so hearing a list of other cities ain't exactly too helpful.

This is also the second time I made a run at it. The first time I showed up 2 hours before closing and was told that they wouldn't have time to get to me.

What the gently caress is up with DMV's in this province? Apparently KW is notoriously bad but they're pretty bad everywhere. I know no one likes DMVs anywhere but this is 10x worse than anything I saw in Alberta.

Why does Ontario have a hard on for selling public services to private monopoly contracts? E.g. DMZ's, the beer store, hydro one. Either keep it public and do it right or go fully private and let some variety in, this half assed one company providing insanely terrible service on a cushy contract with fines for bad service that aren't ever loving applied is a loving joke.

Firebomb their offices and move to BC

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




CRISPYBABY posted:

Just spent two hours in an an Ontario DriveTest to try to get a five minute license exchange done. Eventually I learned that 'that system was down today'. When I asked why they didn't just put a sign up at the ticket stations for that they told me that they 'weren't allowed' so I guess the policy is to ineffectually yell it out once every hour or ywo instead. Then they told me a list of alternative centers to go to....except this is the only location in KW and I don't have a loving car, so hearing a list of other cities ain't exactly too helpful.

This is also the second time I made a run at it. The first time I showed up 2 hours before closing and was told that they wouldn't have time to get to me.

What the gently caress is up with DMV's in this province? Apparently KW is notoriously bad but they're pretty bad everywhere. I know no one likes DMVs anywhere but this is 10x worse than anything I saw in Alberta.

Why does Ontario have a hard on for selling public services to private monopoly contracts? E.g. DMZ's, the beer store, hydro one. Either keep it public and do it right or go fully private and let some variety in, this half assed one company providing insanely terrible service on a cushy contract with fines for bad service that aren't ever loving applied is a loving joke.

Selling crown corps and public services for a quick cash infusion right before an election is an Ontario tradition that both the Liberals and PCs have participated in for decades.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Ideally I would have gone to the Ministry of Transportation to get my licence updated to get rid of the "needs corrective lenses" flag but the idea of spending part of my weekend or having to take time off for that is physically revolting to me. Out of the rare times I ever drive if a cop ever pulls me over and makes a point of it I'll just say "oh I just had it done, need to fix that" or "I'm wearing contacts".

bub spank
Feb 1, 2005

the THRILL
Hooooooly crap.

Turns out this is what’s getting fed to local farmers on AM radio this harvest:

https://oursask.ca/2018/09/23/an-ad...impression=true

quote:

“For many years now, we’ve been told that the residential school system deserves the blame for many of the dysfunctions in indigenous society…”

“…the vast majority of aboriginal youth never attended a residential school.”

“Myth: residential schools robbed native kids of their childhoods…”

“Myth: the harm that has been done to those attending residential schools has been passed on to today’s generation.”

“In fact there is little evidence that abuse suffered by a grandparent had any effect on the academic success of the generations that followed.”

The ad itself is found here:
https://fcpp.org/2018/09/14/indian-residential-schools/

I know that Saskatchewan is very proactive in teaching about residential schools now, but for a lot of older people - who are the ones listening to this - they know nothing about he residential school system except what they hear from friends and the media they listen to.

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008
Huh, I don't think I've ever heard of Residential School denial to that extent before. That's despicable.

vincentpricesboner
Sep 3, 2006

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Tsyni posted:

Firebomb their offices and move to BC

What is with this forum and terrible edgey "kill the prez!!! firebomb wallstreet!! lulz" humour.

Also, pretty much anything with a gov contract run privately is dogshit. But firebomb their building? Might be funny/edgy for a 13 year old but jesus.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
That certainly is a non-partisan position.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Can't turn into an adult with substance abuse issues if the nuns murder you by pouring lye down your throat.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

I’m not that old and I was never taught anything about the residential school system. If someone authoritatively said that most did not go to a residential school I wouldn’t know enough not to believe them.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

bub spank posted:

Hooooooly crap.

Turns out this is what’s getting fed to local farmers on AM radio this harvest:

https://oursask.ca/2018/09/23/an-ad...impression=true


The ad itself is found here:
https://fcpp.org/2018/09/14/indian-residential-schools/

I know that Saskatchewan is very proactive in teaching about residential schools now, but for a lot of older people - who are the ones listening to this - they know nothing about he residential school system except what they hear from friends and the media they listen to.

this is why we need to tear down the statues

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

bub spank posted:

Hooooooly crap.

Turns out this is what’s getting fed to local farmers on AM radio this harvest:

https://oursask.ca/2018/09/23/an-ad...impression=true


The ad itself is found here:
https://fcpp.org/2018/09/14/indian-residential-schools/

I know that Saskatchewan is very proactive in teaching about residential schools now, but for a lot of older people - who are the ones listening to this - they know nothing about he residential school system except what they hear from friends and the media they listen to.

Maybe show these assholes this story: https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/ron-gosbee-stanne-residential-school-survivor-1.4833133

Although I don't see a pressing need to amplify white voices discussing the residential school experience in general, I think stories from non-First Nations survivors could be valuable in unfucking these racist dipshits who dismiss First Nations voices entirely in terms of showing, yeah, it really was that bad, and that's before you get into the angle of cultural genocide.

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