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Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

oh please, nazis go on their own podcasts and proudly declare theyre snitching to the fbi. literally all the fbi need to do is listen to them

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
why is patriot prayer in austin in the first place, alex jones losing paypal?????

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Mike peanutbitch

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
https://twitter.com/mic/status/1043535416538947585?s=19



https://twitter.com/BillCorbett/status/1043908299949854720?s=19

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde

lol

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Fascist politics is riddled with moral cowardice. It wouldn't surprise me if they're all trying to create some kind of paper trail to show that they weren't wholly a part of a criminal movement in case actual consequences come down on them one day.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
emily seems to have deets that he has done a major oopsie and is going to post it in a moment

Al! posted:

why is patriot prayer in austin in the first place, alex jones losing paypal?????
dunno really. my guess is it's partly practical and it's also "cause shopping." practical because jones and shroyer live there. there's also a patriot prayer-esque group in texas called "texans united for america" or TUFA which has similar rallies and seemed to do the groundwork. gibson and his traveling circus shows up and TUFA has everything all set up, they have the park reserved, they have the sound equipment and a group of followers, bing bang boom simple (notice the security guys they hired?). TUFA has traveled to portland several times, so there's an organizational relationship. that is probably the most important thing.

this thread goes into "cause shopping." you have a lot of little groups bopping around and jumping on the news of the day, or news of the week, bouncing from cause to cause. so now it's "free alex jones" while a month ago it was "left-wing violence." these folks are hunting for a cause which can provide momentum.

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1013202121330552832
https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1013516132597227521

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 18:22 on Sep 23, 2018

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


Zeroisanumber posted:

Fascist politics is riddled with moral cowardice. It wouldn't surprise me if they're all trying to create some kind of paper trail to show that they weren't wholly a part of a criminal movement in case actual consequences come down on them one day.

If they were smart. However, evidence suggests otherwise.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Heimbach's attempt to worm his way into the DSA under false pretenses didn't work out so he joined the Nazi LARPers

https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1043915201433800704

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Heimbach's attempt to worm his way into the DSA under false pretenses didn't work out so he joined the Nazi LARPers

https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1043915201433800704

lol how'd he try to join the DSA? Why? Infiltration or was he trying to do an even sadder Glenn Beck style fake heel turn?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Epic High Five posted:

lol how'd he try to join the DSA? Why? Infiltration or was he trying to do an even sadder Glenn Beck style fake heel turn?
ah, i'm slightly off, he tried to worm him way into a sleepy local democratic party group by passing himself off as a DSAer:

https://twitter.com/dsa_chatt/status/1029168486973693953

some other details here:

https://idavox.com/index.php/2018/08/10/heimbach-resurfaces-saying-he-wants-to-retake-southern-tennessee-for-traditional-democratic-values/

quote:

Neo-fascist Matthew Heimbach of the imploded Traditionalist Workers’ Party (TWP) has resurfaced in Southeastern Tennessee, meeting with local Democratic Party members there, following his 38 days in jail.

Heimbach reached out to the local Democrats without revealing his white supremacist, patriarchal politics — offering to volunteer to organize around working class issues. Heimbach, 27, said he wanted to “retake Southern Tennessee for traditional Democratic values” when he met with the party members.

Public records indicate that Heimbach is registered to vote in Bradley County, Tenn., with a home address listing him in the small town of Charleston. He is spending time in nearby Polk County — home of white supremacist Rick Tyler, infamous for his failed “Make America White Again” bid for Tennessee’s 3rd Congressional seat in 2016. Tyler is running for the same seat this year.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

ah, i'm slightly off, he tried to worm him way into a sleepy local democratic party group by passing himself off as a DSAer:

https://twitter.com/dsa_chatt/status/1029168486973693953

some other details here:

https://idavox.com/index.php/2018/08/10/heimbach-resurfaces-saying-he-wants-to-retake-southern-tennessee-for-traditional-democratic-values/

Entryism only works if you can fit through the door.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

ah, i'm slightly off, he tried to worm him way into a sleepy local democratic party group by passing himself off as a DSAer:

https://twitter.com/dsa_chatt/status/1029168486973693953

some other details here:

https://idavox.com/index.php/2018/08/10/heimbach-resurfaces-saying-he-wants-to-retake-southern-tennessee-for-traditional-democratic-values/

lol he may wanna hold off on using phrases like "I'm here to promote traditional values" if he's not wanting to set up a billion alarm sirens

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

business hammocks posted:

Entryism only works if you can fit through the door.
i also heard he was trying to pass himself off as a motivational speaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2VIEY9-A8&t=105s

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

business hammocks posted:

Entryism only works if you can fit through the door.

loving nice mate

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Emily is having a very productive day. Here's a bunch of updates on Nazis with legal problems, including the What About the Memes guy and Hank "the Asian Nazi" Yoo:

https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1043937306988761090
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1043942422147985408
Yoo don't need no drat lawyer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4fnRt779Gk

The feds totally knicked his computer and cell phone:

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 20:47 on Sep 23, 2018

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

i felt bad about this because of the "i have autism please be patient with me" hat but apparently he doesn't have autism and it's a joke making fun of them?

that's lovely self-deprecation. i can't imagine walking around with that on my head

"you have autism?"
"uh no it's just a joke. ha. ha."
"...oh"
"...yeah"

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fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Ague Proof posted:

i felt bad about this because of the "i have autism please be patient with me" hat but apparently he doesn't have autism and it's a joke making fun of them?

that's lovely self-deprecation. i can't imagine walking around with that on my head

"you have autism?"
"uh no it's just a joke. ha. ha."
"...oh"
"...yeah"

if conservatism is a new punk rock this guy is clearly an incel gg alin

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

It's not self-deprecating if he's not autistic.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.



but literally

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

hiring this guy as your lawyer is bad enough, to just fling this poo poo out while ignoring that lawyer is even worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7LpAAitW7E

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/Music_Man_Mike/status/1043779689024774144

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Matthew Heimbach being only twenty-seven is the very clearest example of the ageing effects of Nazism that I can think of.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

collocation posted:

I'm potentially an old and I have some questions.

Back in the late 00's, there used to be a pitchfork subsite/music blog (I wish that I could remember the name) that had music that was too indy for them. A lot of stuff on that site was what I used to call "melting neon tapes in the sun" where it was sort of using fairly bright 80's style stuff, but making it dark by loving with the pitch and kind of making it intentionally lo-fi and janky. Was that sort of thing a pre-cursor or an inspiration for vaporwave?

One of my favorite bands is Glass Candy. I don't like any of his other stuff as much, but I still follow whatever else Johnny Jewel does. He was sort of loving with the melted neon type aesthetic as far back as the mid 00's, and I think that he was fairly involved with the sound of Drive, even though they didn't use all of the stuff that he wrote for the movie. Was Johnny Jewel/Glass Candy sort of a pre-cursor or an inspiration for vaporwave?

I haven't seen Drive, but the only good Kavinsky song was on the Drive soundtrack. To ask a redundant question, Was he a pre-cursor or an inspiration for vaporwave?

Anything that I've heard that has been called Vaporwave has been really redundant, far too basic and minimal, and not really vocal/song orientated. Were/are there actually vaporwave songs with actual vocals that are actually good?

I really like that whole melting neon gently caress sound until it mostly seemed to just die. Even stuff like John Maus, Neon Indian, and Ariel Pink, who seemed biggish around that time, were decent. It seems like it went underground, got basic, and got co-opted by shitheads. Are people going to think I'm some sort of fash dork for liking the stuff I mentioned above, or are those more root type musicians separated from Vaporwave in a distinct enough way that people tend to get the difference?

In addition to radio spiricoms post, if you want vaporwave "music" and less "sound art" good names to start from are Com Truise, Perturbator, and Mitch Murder; and genres to look at are hypnagogic pop, chillwave, synthwave, and outrun.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Thats not vaporwave at all though

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
I'd you ant to listen to vaporwave I recommend the Ramones

RedneckwithGuns
Mar 28, 2007

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Nothing really connects with that original sound the movement started with as much as this new guy "24/7 Chill Lofi Triphop anime Beats to study to"

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Bushiz posted:

In addition to radio spiricoms post, if you want vaporwave "music" and less "sound art" good names to start from are Com Truise, Perturbator, and Mitch Murder; and genres to look at are hypnagogic pop, chillwave, synthwave, and outrun.

Perturbator is good but it's not vaporwave.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

RedneckwithGuns posted:

Nothing really connects with that original sound the movement started with as much as this new guy "24/7 Chill Lofi Triphop anime Beats to study to"

Lofi hiphop to study to is amazing tho

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames
is this what gamers sound like to normal people

what the gently caress is going on

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Bushiz posted:

In addition to radio spiricoms post, if you want vaporwave "music" and less "sound art" good names to start from are Com Truise, Perturbator, and Mitch Murder; and genres to look at are hypnagogic pop, chillwave, synthwave, and outrun.

I've been listening to Trevor Something and they're really good.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Zeroisanumber posted:

I've been listening to Trevor Something and they're really good.

Also not vaporwave but Does Not Exist fucks hard

RedneckwithGuns
Mar 28, 2007

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Lofi hiphop to study to is amazing tho

Oh yeah I'm not disparaging it, those channels own. I'm really fond of the dude who makes videos of remixed lofi trap set over videos of Japanese bus dash cams.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
If you want good vaporwave listen to anything 100% Electronica, Death's Dynamic Shroud.wmv, or Vaperror.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

Ryan celcius sounds is a great channel

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Lofi hiphop to study to is amazing tho

They remind me of college, frantically finishing up thermo homework while leaving adult swim on for noise. The blurbs/non-commercials were the best part so now I have the mental association of downtempo/triphop = mental labor go time.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Synthwave isn't vaporwave wtf

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Goast posted:

is this what gamers sound like to normal people

what the gently caress is going on

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
I didn't mean to say synthwave and vapor wave were the same. I misread his post as saying he wanted something more uptempo and easy to listen to than typical vaporwave

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Where does shoegaze fit on the political compass?

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