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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

*”School’s Out” by Alice Cooper plays over a montage of smiling businessmen blowing up schools while children cheer*

I just now realized how ironic it is they call themselves Praeger U.

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JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Shoehead posted:

My point about pigs was that calling CHUDS swine wouldn't be fair because pigs are cool and smart and kind of sweet and CHUDS are giant piece of poo poo idiots with no hearts

Eating a chud is probably worse for your heart, too.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Hihohe posted:

I saw this pragerU video in my feed.



Oh the horror! Dangerous people teaching your kids diversity, equity, and inclusion! Whats next?Cooperation? Empathy? MATHEMATICS!?

i am vaguely curious what surface level dog whistle answers they give.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Hihohe posted:

I saw this pragerU video in my feed.



Oh the horror! Dangerous people teaching your kids diversity, equity, and inclusion! Whats next?Cooperation? Empathy? MATHEMATICS!?

Dark colored dangerous people :ohdear:

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Dapper_Swindler posted:

i am vaguely curious what surface level dog whistle answers they give.

Watch the video, the PragerU misinformation is cautiously tuned not to trip what few alarms we have time to teach in media literacy in schools in the united states. By basically pulling constant Dinesh-grade half-truths, they're able to slowly arrive at such conclusions as "liberalism and moral relativism are values of the US republican party"



When I was a child, I had two different sets of those Lincoln Logs toys (stackable round sticks with slots at regular intervals so you can make log cabins and what not). One set was a little shorter than the other, but if I lined up the shortest of one set with the longest of another, they would baaaaaaarely fit together and I could use both sets in the same house.

Watching PragerU and Dinesh DeSouza architect their lies is similar: they're intentionally and cautiously lining up what surface details American youth are taught in schools to stack up an unsteady log cabin of lies that barely fit together. If they're careful constructing it, though, and make sure their production value is high throughout, they will sell credible. Most importantly, PragerU conspicuously misses obvious opportunities to insert conservative talking points everyone's heard before and are thus expecting to hear, earning credit as an unbiased source when they don't come up after being teased.

It's more upsetting than you'd think, give it a spin. It's RT for your teenager in that it injects falsehoods that are asides to the main thrust of each video, all without ever raising alarm to how wildly controversial that falsehood really is.

Potato Salad has issued a correction as of 22:35 on Sep 23, 2018

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It’s unsurprising but worth noting that Prager dropped out of Brooklyn College after his sophomore year in like 1967.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Who is this old man and why do I care

ASenileAnimal
Dec 21, 2017

PragerU like most of conservative youtube exists to employ the legions of conservatives with perpetual :smug: face because they wouldnt be able to work anywhere else without getting punched in the mouth.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I hate people like this lol. Am I really such a weirdo that I do the ~chivalry~ things but for everyone. Like what kind of rear end in a top hat isn't trying to buy their friends stuff.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Larry Parrish posted:

I hate people like this lol. Am I really such a weirdo that I do the ~chivalry~ things but for everyone. Like what kind of rear end in a top hat isn't trying to buy their friends stuff.
The kind that only does nice things for people they want to bang or look down on.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Larry Parrish posted:

I hate people like this lol. Am I really such a weirdo that I do the ~chivalry~ things but for everyone. Like what kind of rear end in a top hat isn't trying to buy their friends stuff.

"I'm going to stop behaving like a gentleman if you insist on being treated like a real human being" is a truly hilarious self own.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
The only reason you ever hold a door open for a ~female~ is if she is your vassal and/or you have a high expectation that she will gently caress

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

Flesh Forge posted:

The only reason you ever hold a door open for a ~female~ is if she is your vassal and/or you have a high expectation that she will gently caress

The starbucks barista wench has shirked her feudal obligations to I, the king of dorks

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Potato Salad posted:

Watch the video, the PragerU misinformation is cautiously tuned not to trip what few alarms we have time to teach in media literacy in schools in the united states. By basically pulling constant Dinesh-grade half-truths, they're able to slowly arrive at such conclusions as "liberalism and moral relativism are values of the US republican party"



When I was a child, I had two different sets of those Lincoln Logs toys (stackable round sticks with slots at regular intervals so you can make log cabins and what not). One set was a little shorter than the other, but if I lined up the shortest of one set with the longest of another, they would baaaaaaarely fit together and I could use both sets in the same house.

Watching PragerU and Dinesh DeSouza architect their lies is similar: they're intentionally and cautiously lining up what surface details American youth are taught in schools to stack up an unsteady log cabin of lies that barely fit together. If they're careful constructing it, though, and make sure their production value is high throughout, they will sell credible. Most importantly, PragerU conspicuously misses obvious opportunities to insert conservative talking points everyone's heard before and are thus expecting to hear, earning credit as an unbiased source when they don't come up after being teased.

It's more upsetting than you'd think, give it a spin. It's RT for your teenager in that it injects falsehoods that are asides to the main thrust of each video, all without ever raising alarm to how wildly controversial that falsehood really is.

whats amusing to me is that Dinesh doesn't even use the truth anymore. like you know he doesn't know about strasser or any of that poo poo. he just goes with "it has socialist in the name" and roles with that. i mean, he used hitler keeping Rohm around as proof that he didn't hate gays and therefor he isn't a conservative. Prauger at least tries to do like you say and take poo poo thats sorta true and exgerate it.

its better then those P.I.G conservative books.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

Prager's gameplan is to manipulate the truth through omission. Like in the Hamas video where they "burst onto the scene in the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing." They're hoping you know nothing about the Lebanese Civil War, because there's no mention of the fact that the United States was there to help Israel occupy southern Lebanon, and that Hamas only exists in the first place to liberate Lebanon from Israeli occupation.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I was always a fan of Art House Politics' take on Prager U, myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeMRVTMZBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHdHuIL2VIU

There's a couple more if you click through.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Prager's gameplan is to manipulate the truth through omission. Like in the Hamas video where they "burst onto the scene in the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing." They're hoping you know nothing about the Lebanese Civil War, because there's no mention of the fact that the United States was there to help Israel occupy southern Lebanon, and that Hamas only exists in the first place to liberate Lebanon from Israeli occupation.

I'm not willing to watch that poo poo, so either they got it badly wrong, or you just mixed up the H organizations. It was Hezbollah.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hamas is Palastinean separatists, not the Lebanese loyalist militia known as Hezbollah my man

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

I've been up for five hours

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
That seems like a normal amount of time to be up.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Taintrunner posted:

I was always a fan of Art House Politics' take on Prager U, myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeMRVTMZBQ



Every now and then posters on this site will toy with the idea of getting in on the minority conservative grift game. First thing, you should think deeply on your chances of being a Ben Carson or Candice Owens vs your chance of being the "proliferation of baby mamas" guy.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Kung Food posted:

Every now and then posters on this site will toy with the idea of getting in on the minority conservative grift game. First thing, you should think deeply on your chances of being a Ben Carson or Candice Owens vs your chance of being the "proliferation of baby mamas" guy.



:stonk: he's like FAS baby of Benedict Cucumberbatch and Oblivion random character.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Hihohe posted:

I saw this pragerU video in my feed.



Oh the horror! Dangerous people teaching your kids diversity, equity, and inclusion! Whats next?Cooperation? Empathy? MATHEMATICS!?
I sure loved when they were putting 20 minute commericals in front of videos I wanted to see where some lady lectured me about why it's wrong to say that Israel is committing Apartheid. Good job lady, you're making me dislike Israel even more than I did 10 seconds ago.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

I sure loved when they were putting 20 minute commericals in front of videos I wanted to see where some lady lectured me about why it's wrong to say that Israel is committing Apartheid. Good job lady, you're making me dislike Israel even more than I did 10 seconds ago.

if they repeat it enough times you'll take it as a given, that's just how our dumb ape brains work

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

guri posted:

In Korea at least it is a grey-area thing that the government can't regulate because it isn't legally considered livestock. There is some folkloric belief that if you torture the animal before you slaughter it it results in better meat so there is apparently that potential cruelty added to it.

This is the opposite of how animal slaughter is normally done - you want the animal to be as calm and relaxed as possible. Glycogen in the muscle tissue converts to lactic acid, which both tenderises the meat and makes it keep better. A stressed animal will have depleted its glycogen reserves which prevents this from happening, resulting in poorer quality meat.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

The Lone Badger posted:

This is the opposite of how animal slaughter is normally done - you want the animal to be as calm and relaxed as possible. Glycogen in the muscle tissue converts to lactic acid, which both tenderises the meat and makes it keep better. A stressed animal will have depleted its glycogen reserves which prevents this from happening, resulting in poorer quality meat.

Yeah, that's probably why you hear about those bulls getting beer and massages, even if it's bullshit.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

not a cult posted:

if they repeat it enough times you'll take it as a given, that's just how our dumb ape brains work

lovely bosses repeating being lovely is what turned me from a social democrat into a violent commie tbqh

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Repeatedly call someone a Nazi and they'll become a Nazi!

Sadly, that doesn't work when you repeatedly call Christina Hendricks your wife.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Larry Parrish posted:

lovely bosses repeating being lovely is what turned me from a social democrat into a violent commie tbqh

that's because you weren't responsive to attempts to redirect that anger from bosses to various scapegoats

JcDent posted:

Repeatedly call someone a Nazi and they'll become a Nazi!

lol no

Jose Mengelez
Sep 11, 2001

by Azathoth

JcDent posted:

Repeatedly call someone a Nazi and they'll become a Nazi!

Sadly, that doesn't work when you repeatedly call Christina Hendricks your wife.

if you call an outspoken conservative a retard enough times they'll start drilling holes into their own skull until their cognitive fucntion is sufficiently impaired to make your use of said word textbook albleism.

then they'll have checkmated, owned and or triggered you.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Jose Mengelez posted:

if you call an outspoken conservative a retard enough times they'll start drilling holes into their own skull until their cognitive fucntion is sufficiently impaired to make your use of said word textbook albleism.

then they'll have checkmated, owned and or triggered you.

exhibit A:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3807831

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

:thejoke:

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

https://twitter.com/lindeeloo_who/status/1043850230188441602?s=21

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

not a cult posted:

if they repeat it enough times you'll take it as a given, that's just how our dumb ape brains work

People really underestimate how powerful the human instinct for cooperation and compliance is.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

JcDent posted:

Yeah, that's probably why you hear about those bulls getting beer and massages, even if it's bullshit.

its the philosophy behind kobe beef so i think it does work (ive never tasted kobe beef)

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean, he used hitler keeping Rohm around as proof that he didn't hate gays and therefor he isn't a conservative.

I bet he doesn't mention the fact that Hitler was hilariously easy to convince of Rohm 'corrupting' the hitler youth and the brownshirts with his gay agenda. Which led directly to the night of the long knives and numerous brownshirts and Rohm himself getting murdered by their own party? I mean they were literal nazis so who cares, but I'm guessing they don't care to mention these facts.

DO YOU KNOW THEIR PARTY WAS CALLED THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY?? THEY WERE LEFTIES!!!

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


babypolis posted:

its the philosophy behind kobe beef so i think it does work (ive never tasted kobe beef)

Every Kobe beef steak has been slapped across the face of a rich white woman

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
I love that the nightmarish dystopia happens completely non-violently and by the books

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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Ah yes, the ol' "take in 40 million refugees and grant them citizenship within the span of a single generation" bait and switch. Happens all the time.

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