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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I'm predicting that today's podcast will be a Telltale Games memorial with sprinkles of Bowsette.

Dias posted:

Jim Sterling is like TotalBiscuit in the sense that
Jim Sterling doesn't have cancer

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Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Dias posted:

There's only space for one pale, loud, balding man who's constantly being contrarian and wrong in my life, and that's Pat. :colbert:

It’s a good thing Jim is usually right then!

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Grouchio posted:

I'm predicting that today's podcast will be a Telltale Games memorial with sprinkles of Bowsette.

Jim Sterling doesn't have cancer

Neither does TotalBiscuit anymore.

Monathin
Sep 1, 2011

?????????
?

Dias posted:

Neither does TotalBiscuit anymore.

fuckin dark, dude.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
:stare:

so, uh, yeah


Grouchio posted:

I'm predicting that today's podcast will be a Telltale Games memorial with sprinkles of Bowsette.

I bet that Matt brings up Bowsette, Pat says he's completely disgusted and people on the internet are horny af, Woolie tries to psychoanalyze it, admits he doesn't know anything about it and Matt & Pat badly explain it while they all reference fanart that's being shown on the screen.
I'm super interested in their takes on Telltale. One of the main reasons I saw Pat's latest Spider-man streams was to hear his thoughts on it, but he kept it short there.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
There ain't much to be said about Telltale other than holy gently caress was that company terribly mismanaged. It's another example of the gaming industry having way worse issues than microtransactions or bad framerates.

Monathin
Sep 1, 2011

?????????
?

unionize the games industry 2018

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I can guess what bowsette is but I refuse to Google it because if it's what I think it is then lol it'll just be porn

So is it a female bowser announced by nintendo, or is this some dumb fan thing

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Monathin posted:

unionize EVERYTHING 2018

Monathin
Sep 1, 2011

?????????
?


:yeah:

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



It's porn and Rule 63 of Bowser as Peach.

TexMexFoodbaby
Sep 6, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Captain Invictus posted:

I can guess what bowsette is but I refuse to Google it because if it's what I think it is then lol it'll just be porn

So is it a female bowser announced by nintendo, or is this some dumb fan thing

Don't worry it's a dumb fan thing.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

I can guess what bowsette is but I refuse to Google it because if it's what I think it is then lol it'll just be porn

So is it a female bowser announced by nintendo, or is this some dumb fan thing

the new port of a wii u mario game has an easy mode character called toadette, her special powerup is a crown that turns her into "peachette" and makes her look like princess peach

a fan extrapolated that to 'what if bowser puts on the crown' and people ran with it

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

TexMexFoodbaby posted:

Don't worry it's a dumb fan thing.

yeah it should be "Peacher"

TexMexFoodbaby
Sep 6, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
In that case the name makes no sense.

^ Exactly.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
The thing that takes it slightly above a dumb horny fan thing is that it's really popular. A top trending hashtag on japanese twitter.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
people have been finding ways to get bowser in on the action however they can for ages, this is just another way for weirdos to have an excuse to get their rocks off to gender-swapped transmogrified turtleman

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Why do people have to get so weird about a dumb fan thing?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Andrast posted:

Why do people have to get so weird about a dumb fan thing?
Cause Imagination's a helluva drug. As are boobs

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




ArmyOfMidgets posted:

The thing that takes it slightly above a dumb horny fan thing is that it's really popular. A top trending hashtag on japanese twitter.

Like 163 million results or something nuts like that. And it seems Bowsette has apparently caught on big among Japanese LGBTQ Twitter and they even came up with a catchphrase that roughly translates to "despite the man's outside appearance, the inner girl is beautiful," so y'know, snark harder or pull back depending on how that makes you feel.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

We've had genderswap Bowser stuff for eons, what changed internet, you buncha bandwagoning punks.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
Glad that Terri Bogard and Peacher are living their lives how they want now. Very proud of them.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Yardbomb posted:

We've had genderswap Bowser stuff for eons, what changed internet, you buncha bandwagoning punks.
yeah like, as a denizen of the weird fanart thread(RIP) for ages, even what was literally just peach with like, a horned crown/spiked bracelets and red hair was a thing literally decades ago. And that appears to be literally what Bowsette is. All it took was a pink mushroom in a crown to give it a life of its own

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Yardbomb posted:

We've had genderswap Bowser stuff for eons, what changed internet, you buncha bandwagoning punks.

Simple, Nintendo sparked it.

I know it's crazy to imagine, but Nintendo gets more attention than some rando with a Deviantart account and a 100 watchers.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

RareAcumen posted:

I know it's crazy to imagine, but Nintendo gets more attention than some rando with a Deviantart account and a 100 watchers.

Bowser: But Lady has been a fairly common thing for like ever, still just feels real sudden when it's not like it's been some niche DA thing :shrug:

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Glad that Terri Bogard and Peacher are living their lives how they want now. Very proud of them.

I wish that's how these were actually being played so bad.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Yardbomb posted:

Bowser: But Lady has been a fairly common thing for like ever, still just feels real sudden when it's not like it's been some niche DA thing :shrug:

It has been some niche DA thing

Monathin
Sep 1, 2011

?????????
?

Noted Dead Gay Comedy Forum User Captain Invictus Threatened By Incredibly Popular Genderswap Fanart

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.

Dias posted:

Plus it was a thing in DMC4SE already and it had no impact at all. At most they'll say it's kinda dumb.

Something you all don't realize is that they couldn't have changed the orb rates in 4SE because people could have compared it to 4's rates and be called out for their poo poo, but in this case I'm expecting the mid to endgame being an utter grind fest a la shadow of war.

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

Woolie tries to psychoanalyze it

Nalesh fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Sep 24, 2018

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Nalesh posted:

Something you all don't realize is that they couldn't have changed the orb rates in 4SE because people could have compared it to 4's rates and be called out for their poo poo, but in this case I'm expecting the mid to endgame being an utter grind fest a la shadow of war.

I mean, they did change it...they made a mode that gives you MORE Orbs.

Also this:

https://www.dualshockers.com/devil-may-cry-5-red-orbs-playing-normally/

Also Pat should use Dante's regular roll more.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
SHUT UP, IT'S TIERZOO

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Monathin posted:

Noted Dead Gay Comedy Forum User Captain Invictus Threatened By Incredibly Popular Genderswap Fanart

I understand his anxiety. Why couldn't this have happened to Cloud? Now there's no way that dress is getting into Smash Ultimate. :(

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Dias posted:

I mean, they did change it...they made a mode that gives you MORE Orbs.

Also this:

https://www.dualshockers.com/devil-may-cry-5-red-orbs-playing-normally/

Also Pat should use Dante's regular roll more.

Lemme, uh, help you out there champ.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"
Microtransactions are scummy, period. No matter how inconsequential they are.

I'm going to buy DMCV anyway, because I'm a hopeless fanboy, but I absolutely do not blame people for taking a hardline stance against this.

theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010

Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War
It’d help if people just called them transactions or something more pejorative.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Dabir posted:

Lemme, uh, help you out there champ.



So you're willing to toxx on this, I'd assume from your condescending tone?

Microtransactions aren't necessarily scummy (especially for multiplayer games with continued support), same goes for DLC, but big companies have made sure to poison that well with incredibly greedy models. This specific case IS scummy, but you have a previous game in the same series which added the same sort of microtransactions while actually making orbs MORE PLENTIFUL, and you have a beta build that dropped the DLC bomb but still was tuned pretty fairly, which MANY people had access to. I think we're gonna be okay when it comes to game balancing, unless Capcom REALLY wants to shoot itself on the foot - they only do that with fighting games, tho.

What was the last time the "they'll break this game's balance with microtransactions" crowd was right, anyway? Even Shadow of War was overstated, and I think that's the closest we ever came to that.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

I'm willing to call you credulous if you think that the red orb gains being good now proves they'll be good on release. The article proves nothing.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Dias posted:

So you're willing to toxx on this, I'd assume from your condescending tone?

Microtransactions aren't necessarily scummy (especially for multiplayer games with continued support), same goes for DLC, but big companies have made sure to poison that well with incredibly greedy models. This specific case IS scummy, but you have a previous game in the same series which added the same sort of microtransactions while actually making orbs MORE PLENTIFUL, and you have a beta build that dropped the DLC bomb but still was tuned pretty fairly, which MANY people had access to. I think we're gonna be okay when it comes to game balancing, unless Capcom REALLY wants to shoot itself on the foot - they only do that with fighting games, tho.

What was the last time the "they'll break this game's balance with microtransactions" crowd was right, anyway? Even Shadow of War was overstated, and I think that's the closest we ever came to that.

it's still poo poo

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Dias posted:

This specific case IS scummy, but

Let me stop you right there, chief.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Andrast posted:

it's still poo poo

yes and so is your white noise post but that's not the point, the point is that assuming bad evil cacpcom will make stinger cost 10 billion orbs is bizarre considering current evidence

edit: like, it's not that hard to understand a thing can be lovely but not really lead to another thing, right? It can't be that hard.

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Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Dias posted:

yes and so is your white noise post but that's not the point, the point is that assuming bad evil cacpcom will make stinger cost 10 billion orbs is bizarre considering current evidence

edit: like, it's not that hard to understand a thing can be lovely but not really lead to another thing, right? It can't be that hard.

If companies are going to put that garbage into a game I will always assume the worst until proven wrong

because it's poo poo

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