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Argas posted:It's just a quiet strategy of not acknowledging the poo poo that happened in the past. Plus, defunding studies like these cuts off the road to reparations. They can just make a fuss over not knowing how much it'll cost and they just don't want to punish people (as if individuals are going to be paying for reparations) while quietly making sure the studies don't get done. And while I want to say "lol Liberals" I’m guessing there would be no meaningful difference if another party was in power. Is there a term like a cartel but for political parties? It’s like they all agree not to give each other poo poo on certain issues so nobody gets hurt too bad.
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We are living in a world where being a nazi isn't a political career ruining move nor does it get you ostracized from the community. In fact it seems like those scary black block anitifa on the extreme-left are the real threat to good canadian values.
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Sep 24, 2018 05:45
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What was it, liberals hate leftists more than facists?
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Sep 24, 2018 05:59
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"Sunlight is the best disinfectant" say people who don't yet realize we live in an age when the premier of Canada's largest province does photo ops with Nazis.
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pokeyman posted:And while I want to say "lol Liberals" I’m guessing there would be no meaningful difference if another party was in power. A “combine.”
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pokeyman posted:I can’t think of the word for how I feel that nobody cares about this. It’s not a surprise, but I thought we wouldn’t be so... indifferent? I mean we can’t even fund one commission? Really? one that was the result of a court case that threatened to bankrupt a number of canadian churches. like we had, imo, a moral obligation to see the TRC through to fulfill its mandate and we couldn't even manage that. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Sep 24, 2018 |
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Sep 24, 2018 12:18
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:I had to do the same in Ottawa after moving back to Ontario from Quebec. Having a photocopy of my previous DL didn't help. Had to come back 3 times. For various reasons, including "why does your name have accents on your birth certificate and not on your passport?"
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Argas posted:What was it, liberals hate leftists more than facists? It's "Liberals hate socialists more than fascists" and it's definitely nice. Liberals are just conservatives that learned how to smile and be polite.
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Sep 24, 2018 13:27
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Hey guys, guess what? https://twitter.com/jm_mcgrath/status/1044225254070145029 We're going after the previous government!
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Sep 24, 2018 15:15
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infernal machines posted:Hey guys, guess what? This is stupid, they are trying to make it sound like they are going to "lock her up" when really they are just going to come out and be like "Liberals are bad at spending money"
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Sep 24, 2018 15:26
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Seems like a huge waste of tax payer money (????)
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Sep 24, 2018 15:34
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Weird huh? I wonder what reason they could possibly have for making a big production out of something otherwise mundane?
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PT6A posted:Alternatively, I'd like to see a book written in the style of El-Akkad's "American War" to try and bring home the realities of the residential school system to a largely white, urbanized audience. Like, what if a bunch of foreign invaders just rolled into a city or town or whatever, and started stealing children to send them to, basically, prisons where they'd be beaten, sexually abused, and stripped of their culture, identity and language? Maybe that would resonate a bit more with white folks who don't want to listen to Indigenous voices. I haven't read it (yet), but does Gord Downie's graphic novel The Secret Path count as something in this direction? A person well-known by white, urban Canadians made an effort to educate said white, urban Canadians about this topic. And I agree, the residential school system should be treated similarly to pro-Nazi activities in Germany. CRISPYBABY: I switched my Sask license to Ontario at the Lexington Road Service Ontario in late 2015 and yeah, the line was long (maybe a 1-hour wait the day I was there, mid-day on a weekday) but it got done without any drama. If you buy a car you'll need an Ontario license to register it (I was told this, full quote, by a Service Ontario person here in Sudbury a few months ago when I was switching back to ON from QC... yeah, I've moved a fair bit). A rental company won't care because they rent to out-of-province customers all the time, but a police officer probably would care. The time a cop is likely to line up your license and your residence is a few minutes after something has happened to ruin your whole day, week, or month anyways, so it'll be bad news ("You are being charged with driving without a valid license") on top of already-bad news ("Your car is undriveable, and somebody may have been injured"). Sorting out poo poo like that while standing next to a disabled car on the side of a road with a cop sitting in his cruiser, on the phone to his superiors, is pretty much the worst time to be trying to figure out bureaucratic nonsense. It's much more comfortable to sit in those almost-padded chairs at the Service Ontario with a flimsy paper ticket in your hand, dozens of numbers higher than the current light-brite display. Sashimi posted:Getting hosed over by Drive Test is a proud Ontario tradition and initiation ritual for newcomers.
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infernal machines posted:Weird huh? Always Be Campaigning
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DariusLikewise posted:This is stupid, they are trying to make it sound like they are going to "lock her up" when really they are just going to come out and be like "Liberals are bad at spending money" Maybe they really will try to use their power to imprison the opposition. Would that surprise anyone?
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Sep 24, 2018 15:49
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Hey, did any of you watch Fahrenheit 11/9?
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ExecuDork posted:I haven't read it (yet), but does Gord Downie's graphic novel The Secret Path count as something in this direction? A person well-known by white, urban Canadians made an effort to educate said white, urban Canadians about this topic. Not quite. I agree those kinds of works are important by themselves, but American War was basically a speculative fiction novel detailing a second American civil war with obvious parallels to the current situation in the Middle East, with the protagonist shown turning from a normal kid to a refugee to a radicalized terrorist as an adult -- the point being: this is how it happens, and your society is no more immune to it than any other. In the same sense, while the actual stories of residential school survivors are critical to read and understand, I think a work of speculative fiction which contextualizes those horrors to the present or near-future might be an effective means of reaching certain people and making them more empathetic toward what actually happened in the past. It shouldn't, ideally, make a difference whether crimes against humanity happen to someone we relate to, or someone viewed as "the other", but in practice it clearly does.
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Lobok posted:Always Speaking of... https://twitter.com/DavidHains/status/1044241991738036224 And in "hey, remember that thing I said yesterday?" news: https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/1044245742980931586 infernal machines fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Sep 24, 2018 |
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Sep 24, 2018 16:36
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Man American War was so good
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Furnaceface posted:I dont know where in Ontario you moved to but the general rule of thumb in Barrie is "Go to Orillia to do anything driving related". Hi, as someone born and raised in Orillia, please allow me to strongly recommend Never Going To Orillia it's not worth it I promise
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Here's an article about how when people say "Canada doesn't have the same history of racial discrimination as the United States" they're full of poo poo: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/20/canada-racism-past-civil-rights-charles-daniels-bashir-mohamed
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Bashir Mohamed is also a pro twitter follow and if you don’t follow him, you’re missing out.
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vyelkin posted:Here's an article about how when people say "Canada doesn't have the same history of racial discrimination as the United States" they're full of poo poo: I mean I don't think we had the same level as American discrimination/racism. We didn't have explicit Jim Crow level of laws, but I understand we still had segregation for not-white people. I just think it's hard to justify that black American experience with racism is the same as black Canadian racism. Daniels in that article won his court case so its hardly a ringing endorsement of Canada having Jim crowesque laws.
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Canada doesn't have the same history of racial discrimination, but it sure as poo poo has a history (and present) of racial discrimination.
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CanPol Megathread: CALGARY ‘friend of the family’ KICKS UP FUSS
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My aunt is gay. I asked my dad once how the Grandparents (Calgarian, not that it matters) took it when she came out in the 70s, and he said something along the lines of 'It was way less of an issue than the time she had a black boyfriend'.
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infernal machines posted:Hey guys, guess what? I guess working to keep the NDP out is going well.
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McGavin posted:CanPol Megathread: CALGARY ‘friend of the family’ KICKS UP FUSS I would honestly include context in your quote in case someone doesn't read Vyelkins post
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If the PCs had evidence of criminal wrongdoing they'd be under a legal obligation to report it to the RCMP. At best Ford wants to invent a way he can have his own dumb Benghazi committee, at worst he really is going for the fascist speed run.
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Sep 25, 2018 00:38
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infernal machines posted:Hey guys, guess what? Lock her up
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Sashimi posted:Getting hosed over by Drive Test is a proud Ontario tradition and initiation ritual for newcomers. I figured it was fair game the first time I moved to Ontario... Not after being away for a few years :argh
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I thought the Ontario government put a stop to the Drive Test shitheads and their 'everyone fails once' policy after it hit the news that the company was essentially ripping off the province by making obtaining a license more expensive for both the applicants and the province.
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Reality Pisser posted:Lock her up Crooked Wynne.
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EvilJoven posted:I thought the Ontario government put a stop to the Drive Test shitheads and their 'everyone fails once' policy after it hit the news that the company was essentially ripping off the province by making obtaining a license more expensive for both the applicants and the province. If by put a stop to you mean sent a sternly worded letter then sure. I can only imagine how much worse its going to get under the new government.
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EvilJoven posted:I thought the Ontario government put a stop to the Drive Test shitheads and their 'everyone fails once' policy after it hit the news that the company was essentially ripping off the province by making obtaining a license more expensive for both the applicants and the province. When I failed my G the first time, I took it literally 2 days before I was moving away for post secondary not really thinking too hard about it. When I failed and was arguing with her suggestion that I didn't look to the right when exiting (I cited the car that was approaching because it was a fairly memorable thing) and other things that I stated clearly weren't true. She told me, well, it's okay, you can take it in a week, with a big poo poo eating grin, and I burst into tears and said I was moving away in 2 days and wouldn't have access to a vehicle upon getting there and she let out this telling, "ooooooooh." and just left the car telling me I could come back in for my page and payment when I cleaned up. It was a sickening experience and I wrote to the McGuinty Govt. some angry letter about the privatization and the poo poo it put me through and this was back in 2010. That's my Drive Test story, just this year I could finally reapply, I can only start as a true beginner and when I went and took the G1 written test, afterwards I had to wait in line, and got to hear how many people failed it. When I passed both the road signs and rules perfectly, she seemed... shocked. It's so unbelievably poo poo. I'd also note that not having my G this whole time has actually stopped me from being able to get jobs, because they either had their own cars or it didn't really matter but was still on job posting. It took forever to get a job as a goddamn graphic designer, the place I work at simply overlooked that I don't really have my license, but they still wanted me to have my G. 
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Ya I was failed on my G2 test for bullshit reasons but that was years and years ago and I thought they actually stopped that crap. Sucks that it's still happening. I have no idea if testing is private in Manitoba but hopefully Pallister doesn't get to handing that over before he's booted if Wab wins. Which I hope he does but he probably won't...  EDIT: OTOH I really wish whoever did the testing would fail more people because holy poo poo if there's one thing I DON'T prefer about Manitoba over Ontario it's the drivers. God drat is this province ever full of people who are absolute poo poo behind the wheel.
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DriveTest basically made me have a complete nervous breakdown in vehicle so bad that I decided to just bike and walk for the rest of my life.
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Ram Faerber is running for mayor of Barrie again. I think he has run in and lost the last 4-5 elections and wont likely win this one either. Id say he is setting a record for losing but theres that guy that has run in every single election in Ottawa(?) for the last 30 years and lost every single time so he still has a ways to go.
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Midwives won at HRTO. They were found to have been underpaid since 2005 when the McGuinty government decided to just say "nah" to the 20% pay increase the government's own report said they were due for. (Oh, the Liberals are so much better than the conservatives.) Now they get to negotiate with Douggy over retroactive pay, damages, and pay scale going fowards.
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